Topic: do anyone have done this? with gambling platforms - page 3. (Read 4000 times)

the question is for small or new casinos for them $5k or $20k is a reasonable amount hey want to save for that they ask winning user to complete very complicated and hard KYC procedure.
and in last they ban that user from playing on their casino because he is winning, the new casino want losing players so they get rid of winners by blocking their account or doing things like that.
the reputable and big casinos who have huge amount of liquid money and players doesn't care about even $50k we can withdraw without KYC

Gambling platforms are customers friendly but when we are not giving them the necessary attention on what they request from us, this cause the beginning of a bridge between them, if we ar doing our oart then they will also not hesitate to do the needful we expect drom them, but why have we always wanted to do the wrong thing and yet expect to have their best offers, we will be the one to comply to their terms and not them to ours.

In as much as this is a great idea, and a good law for the jurisdiction that already have such laws in place like the EU.

But to be honest, I do not think this to be really feasible, I believe that we all must have come across this adage that states that the internet never forgets, and of a truth, the internet indeed never forgets.

Any platform like a gambling casino or an exchange can tell the customer that they have deleted the customer's kyc data, meanwhile, they still have the same data in their system, and since there is no way for the customer to verify if this claim is true, the customer will have no choice but to simply believe.

I do not see this as something to be considered as a major development if at all it gets implemented.

There is no harm in doing that as long as the platform you are using is trusted and has a good reputation among the gamblers' community because then you will have peace of mind that your personal details and documents won't be misused or sold since these things happen nowadays where new platforms collect such information from their users and then sell them to third-party service providers in return for money which is obviously a bad thing for the customer.

Therefore, it's not advisable to complete KYC verification at casinos or platforms that are relatively new and don't have much trust and reputation among gamblers. Even if you are asked to do it before you have made any deposits, but if the platform isn't trusted, you should avoid doing that and look for a better place to continue your activities.

This is a very good point!
In fact, this isn't or shouldn't be just an option as there are many laws and regulations which aim to protect users and customers' privacy.
For example, in Europe there is the GDPR (general data protection regulation). According to GDPR, any company or service provider who operate in the EU or provide its services to one of its countries is obliged to delete the user/customer's data or personal information they have collected when the customer asks them to do so.

You are right, I don't see that it is a good idea that some of the things like that may be, the choice of a casino is crucial for me, some players may not have reached that level where one prefers to play in well-known casinos, before when I started in This is the casino, bitcoin, all this, what I did was register in every casino that came out, of course I didn't know Well about the security, I thought that all the new casinos that came out were reliable, and you could make deposits without suffer risks of scam, which in truth I was very naive, so in this order of ideas I can say and give basically the option that when it comes to how to do to establish a better casino is when something is fixed, be it a casino that can give a sample that is good Looking , of great quality in its support, that has a very good trust, an unsurpassed reputation, in the world there are, and it is something that we can all realize when we review the thread ann, that is a way of giving.

Also something that is very nice is when you have the objective of being clear that the best casinos are the ones that have the most history, the ones that are oldest and the ones that can basically attest that they can do things well, then this has a lot of influence. In general, based on this, we can attest that when it comes to how to establish a better service, the most reliable, for me it is that, taking into consideration that the tastes for games are the same, in Yes, they bring the same games as almost everyone, only some casinos have their own development and can change in terms of the setting of their games, but they are still under the same tone and can give the same results, that is why now with everything What has been presented about the common problem of KYC is that it is Preferable to leave the KYCe in the most reliable casinos than in the newer ones, because the new ones always have the risk of Scams.

Isn't it very simple if we make resea about any casino and discover that they require KYC then we can take a leave to look for such that does not require kyc, we also can take a look into the requirements they ask for, if they are informations we can afford to provide or not, all this should be our first target before making decision in using a casino because when we don't supply every necessary kyc requirements, we may not enjoy any of their services because we are going to be denied of them, especially the most important ones like making withdrawal and so on.

Not only on the purpose on knowing their clients but rather these rules or terms had been asked out or imposed by some regulation been set out for them to follow. If they wont then for sure their business wouldnt really be that operation on which they would really be needing to follow a certain law for them to have that license on which we know that having this would really be something significant on gambling industry.
This is why as a gambler then it would really be that always better that you should really be reading up sites terms and conditions so that you would really be that wary or simply aware on what are the
limitations and possible situation you would be able to encounter in case you do win up big. In overall it would really be that wise that you should really be making that in depth
research about on a certain platform and see it if there are really some shady stuffs or things that do happen which its better to know it early than on knowing it later when
issues had already arise.

The purpose of having KYC in a casino platform and even in any other platform is to ensure that the platform knows their clients, sometimes why some people don't want to their credentials to be review online is because of the level of illegality they commit, actually we need to be documented in anything concerning monetary transactions so that when thing's goes wrong from the transaction they will be easy access to know exactly the person that's responsible for the act, but many people do not like to document their accounts because they are sacred of being hold responsible in anything, kyc should be necessary because its a safety both the platform and also a patronised.

KYC should be compulsory since not everyone like to drop their credentials online because they want to use a casino to bet. I frown at KYC Casinos especially those ones that take KYC compulsory before their customers make any withdrawal. Nit everyone is comfortable with that information to be left on a casino. Casinos supposed to have an option that would delete our KYC credentials whenever we are not ready to use there platform again. I think this will be mostly appreciate so that we are going to feel safe from intruders that could sell our information to third parties.

For large casinos that do have KYC provisions the answer is yes, I was reminded to carry out KYC verification to be able to continue gambling with comfort.
The casino will even offer a bonus for completing verification and this message will be sent via email.
Moreover, when the casino has set KYC it is better to complete it at the beginning even if you only withdraw a small amount KYC is not problem, but when you win big and want to withdraw it KYC is definitely needed and this is why it is important to complete it from the start.
Anyone does not want to have problems when making withdrawals and must also provide what is needed so that any such problems can be avoided.

I understand what you mean but the question is will you only get small wins continuously?
Don't you want to get big win and we don't know that maybe in the near future you can get big win so you will withdraw a bigger amount too, so there no harm in completing verification from the start of registering.

There does seem to be a real desire to make sure that these places are safe and trustworthy, but I also get the feeling that there is a deeper, more controlling goal at play. People say that the need to collect data is a way to build trust, but it really seems more like a way to spy on people. There is a strong case to be made that KYC helps build trust in gambling. But lets look into it more.

When KYC is thrown at players at withdrawal time, though, its hard to ignore how frustrated they are. What was once joy turns into anger. I agree that being honest from the start can make people feel like you're being honest and loyal. But the real reason for the monitoring cant be ignored. More oversight and control are being added under the idea of protecting players.

I know that many may think that when it comes to improving things when it comes to not doing KYC, people seeking their anonymity and privacy is something that can give us better security, according to what we think when we have to comply Some KYC is difficult to make a reality because we rely on playing and in order to withdraw we do it without any problems.

To be clearer in what I mean, that now all casinos want to require KYC, and the best way is to comply with it from the beginning, I have said a lot that the things that casinos should do is look for the warning that the KYC is fulfilled before making a deposit to play, otherwise it is not good that for any reason people have to do the KYC at the time of withdrawing, because it is annoying, it bothers me personally, and like the boom KYC is a fact and it is done, because they should require it for a reason, some say that people will be scared, but I think it won't be like that, because it will be something that can generate more confidence, if you leave other casinos will find themselves with the same system but if they do it here, he is a safe customer, because he will play, then it could be said that the casino's motto is that they are honest and transparent from the beginning, and that they do nothing but speak the truth, this is what That can make them generate more confidence, and that they speak with confidence.

KYC is now very necessary in casinos so that they can generate trust in companies, supposedly that is what it is for, of course I don't think it is like that, it is just an excuse for governments to have people's data so that they can request it later, That's why KYCs do them, to generate more control over people, the rest is simply a cliché that they invented, I'm a true believer in those things, therefore KYCs are not what people believe. or they make them believe.

Whether you will be asked to complete KYC verification or not is totally dependent on the amount of money you are trying to withdraw and also the amount of money you've deposited. If you have made a deposit of $200 and trying to withdraw maybe about $500 that too after completing all the wagering requirements and stuff, I don't think you will be asked to complete KYC verification for that even if the platform is big, trusted, and reputable because the amount is not that high.

So it's always possible for a person to win a certain amount and then be able to withdraw it without being questioned about it or asked to complete any extra verification and stuff as long as the amount they are trying to withdraw is not significantly higher than the amount they have deposited initially.

Well, it is already known that these things when dealing with KYC, well it is something that can be taken as if it were a Business, first the Governments extort the casinos so that they can somehow generate some money for them , when they do not like them. They ask for money, because they ask for KYC registration because with the KYC Registration they can do a lot in a time, they have all the data so they can do a lot of things, then they win the casino + govern us, because in the Future when they implement the regulations as they are, well, the people who want to declare crypto will be able to do other things like passing on that KYC, then there you go and that's where privacy ends, well these things are already practically well covered, so in this order of ideas we when we talk About KYC there is a lot of Material to cut from , this is something that is supposed to be Beneficial for the governments, I do not see any other way to be able to manifest a benefit for us, oh no yes, say the KYC experts that it is useful for any registration and Recovery I'll give it in case they lose it in a casino.

So the Defenders of KYC is the best selling thing that can exist, you cannot agree when something ends your Privacy , never in life, because it is something that has no place, it is something that some do not see, but that in The future yes, then for now the adoption of crypto and bitcoin, well there may be many things in Favor , but just as Adoption Wxists, there may be Certain Conditions, and well it is good that they want to make their regulations, but consider that getting into casinos, in exchanges it is already a violation of the Same , then these things are the ones that we See , the ones that are very visible and from which we must protect ourselves, in addition to the bad times that many players have had to go through after they fulfill the KYC and they have to do more, or those who want to make a Withdrawal and then are told no, until they Comply with the Kyc.

Well I won't likely say that the gambler wants to play smart with the casino when it comes to the issues with KYC,  but then we have to realize that one of the basic goals of crypto gamblers is to achieve privacy and for that, they try as much as possible to look out for casinos that are less strict with their KYC demands and sometimes only look out for a casino that will give them the free hands to gamble without being demanded to hand out their documents for verifications.

So instead he looking at it as if the gambler is deliberately avoiding KYC,  we should also look at it from the angle of them trying to protect their privacy,  even though it likely becoming impossible to remain anonymous in casinos lately due to KYC mandates and it relevant in operating a licensed casino.

This is two different case scenario we are considering here, the first is when the casino is not reliable enough to be trusted, while the second is the moment a gambler refuses to complete the casino KYC requirements either intentionally or not intentionally, in the first example mentioned above, the gambler has to be responsible because it is always required that we make research well about the reputation of any gambling platform before using them, if the first conditions is meant then the second one should also be dependents on the gambler if he was able to provide all necessary informations for kyc or not, else we revert to the first conditions that he was unaware the gambling had a bad reputation.

I believe the majority of experienced gamblers once had huge wins before, I have done that with Roobet, Royalstarscasino, etc.
Having said that, it's hard to find a reputable casino that won't request KYC before the initial deposit and I believe this is the reason why they never request for KYC after the huge winning.

many new and even old casinos when they realize that the customer deposited little money but was lucky enough to win a lot of money, then the casino asks the customer for kyc and after the customer does kyc, then the casino accuses the customer of having too many accounts, this is one This is a strategy that many casinos have started to do to avoid paying players who were lucky enough to make a profit at the casino, which is why in my opinion kyc is being used as a weapon by some casinos. and see that there are cases where it is even obvious. for example, a casino accuses a customer that the customer has many accounts, but the same casino does not show proof that the customer has many accounts and the same casino asks all customers for kyc

in other words, all customers do kyc, they play for a long time and the casino does not detect any suspicious activity, but after someone wins a lot of money, then the casino accuses the customer of having too many accounts, see that if that customer has too many accounts so how did he kyc with many accounts at the same casino? and when the casino is asked to show proof that the customer has many accounts, the casino refuses to show and uses the argument that this could expose the methods the casino uses to detect cheaters. But we have to ask ourselves the following: would posting a photo with the same usernames and deposit addresses to prove that they are the same users expose the methods that casinos use to detect cheaters? I think not!

You have a point in your statement,  I think the reason why most licensed casinos ask for KYC is host to fulfil their licensing demands this is so because, at some point,  we have hard highly reputable casinos not really bordering their clients for KYC verification for some winning even if it is above their free withdrawal threshold of $5k for none KYC and $5k+ withdrawal must be verified users of the casino.

We have seen a fair number of casinos not paying any serious attention to this and at some point pay a deaf ear to such things as withdrawals and go ahead to process their customer withdrawal demand.