Do Black lives matter or Do all lives matter? - page 6.

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Quote from: Vod on June 10, 2020, 11:55:24 PM

Quote from: PopoJeff on June 10, 2020, 11:01:49 PM

Acknowledge what "WE" did ? Who exactly is WE? I didn't have any slaves, and no one in this lifetime was a slave.
Pay reparations to who? Absolutely no one alive today, born and raised in the US was ever a slave.

And with who's money? Tax money (my money)? I'll be god damned in I'm paying a cent for something I didn't do to people who weren't affected.

It's history. It was history worldwide and commonly accepted. The US acted before most of the globe did to do the right thing. Get over it

If you feel that way, that's great. Make sure you don't feel proud of the past accomplishments of your country or family if you weren't around to help. Tongue

"United States" - ironic name.

There's a difference between pride and perpetual victimhood.

If my great great grandfather was killed by your great great grandfather, should you be liable in my civil suit?
Where does it end?

I'll worry about black slavery, as soon as they have the same concerns over Irish and Chinese slavery.

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Quote from: PopoJeff on June 10, 2020, 11:01:49 PM

Acknowledge what "WE" did ? Who exactly is WE? I didn't have any slaves, and no one in this lifetime was a slave.
Pay reparations to who? Absolutely no one alive today, born and raised in the US was ever a slave.

And with who's money? Tax money (my money)? I'll be god damned in I'm paying a cent for something I didn't do to people who weren't affected.

It's history. It was history worldwide and commonly accepted. The US acted before most of the globe did to do the right thing. Get over it

If you feel that way, that's great. Make sure you don't feel proud of the past accomplishments of your country or family if you weren't around to help. Tongue

"United States" - ironic name.

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on June 10, 2020, 11:20:48 PM

Quote from: PopoJeff on June 10, 2020, 11:01:49 PM

Get over it

I don't think that's going to work.

The so-called 'white males' have sustained a large amount of abuse for quite a while now with what I consider to be an amazing amount of tolerance. It's possible that it's 'tolerance' more than 'capitulation' and some groups are estimating this. Hope so.

It's not going to work out well for the SJW retards and mis-labeled 'minorities' whether the 'white males' (incorrectly) lash out at them, or (correctly) lash out at the real culprits who created the the SJW retards and 'minority' golem for social engineering reasons. The SJW and minos are simply tools and will lose no matter how things go. That's baked in already.

The SJW and minos better hope and pray that the so-called 'white males' win in the upcoming struggle because I guarantee the 'white male' group will give the SJW a better outcome than will the designers who programmed them.

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Quote from: PopoJeff on June 10, 2020, 11:01:49 PM

Get over it

I don't think that's going to work.

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Quote from: Vod on June 10, 2020, 09:06:20 PM

The world is waking up to the injustice of blacks in America, but we are only going to solve racial problems by considering all races equal.

Which is more racist? A white person saying nigger or a black person claiming only they can use that word. Either the word is taboo, or it can be equally used by anyone.

Let's acknowledge what we did, apologize, pay reparations - but I feel we should become one single human race before we colonize other worlds.

Quote from: TECSHARE on June 10, 2020, 07:05:11 PM

The word slave literally came from the fact that the Slavic people were enslaved. Of course that doesn't fit with the narrative that America invented slavery and only black people were ever slaves.

I heard the term slave used many times in "The Ten Commandments". Are you saying that movie is not true? Tongue

Acknowledge what "WE" did ? Who exactly is WE? I didn't have any slaves, and no one in this lifetime was a slave.
Pay reparations to who? Absolutely no one alive today, born and raised in the US was ever a slave.

And with who's money? Tax money (my money)? I'll be god damned in I'm paying a cent for something I didn't do to people who weren't affected.

It's history. It was history worldwide and commonly accepted. The US acted before most of the globe did to do the right thing. Get over it

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People say they know that all lives matter, they think it does but in reality some people just forget that. They behave and judge differently. Americans should not be judged in general because individually, we are accountable of our actions. Mistreating people due to their color defines how you think of them.
If one of those police have that kind of thinking, it wont ever end up to death..

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Quote from: KingScorpio on June 09, 2020, 08:01:19 PM

whats your oppinion?

It's not either or.

If all lives matter, then black lives matter.
If black lives don't matter, then all lives don't matter.

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Quote from: Vod on June 10, 2020, 09:06:20 PM

The world is waking up to the injustice of blacks in America, but we are only going to solve racial problems by considering all races equal.

Which is more racist? A white person saying nigger or a black person claiming only they can use that word. Either the word is taboo, or it can be equally used by anyone.

Let's acknowledge what we did, apologize, pay reparations - but I feel we should become one single human race before we colonize other worlds.

Quote from: TECSHARE on June 10, 2020, 07:05:11 PM

The word slave literally came from the fact that the Slavic people were enslaved. Of course that doesn't fit with the narrative that America invented slavery and only black people were ever slaves.

I heard the term slave used many times in "The Ten Commandments". Are you saying that movie is not true? Tongue

why does the world has to care about that? why are all americans responsible for the "injustice" to blacks in america and not just those that commited them. why do all have to pay reparations to black people and not those that did damage to them? isn't this sick? america is collapsing currently anyway.

maybe black people should simply print their own ICO, and those responsible should buy their coin, and not demand from people that migrated much later into the usa to care about those "black people"

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The world is waking up to the injustice of blacks in America, but we are only going to solve racial problems by considering all races equal.

Which is more racist? A white person saying nigger or a black person claiming only they can use that word. Either the word is taboo, or it can be equally used by anyone.

Let's acknowledge what we did, apologize, pay reparations - but I feel we should become one single human race before we colonize other worlds.

Quote from: TECSHARE on June 10, 2020, 07:05:11 PM

The word slave literally came from the fact that the Slavic people were enslaved. Of course that doesn't fit with the narrative that America invented slavery and only black people were ever slaves.

I heard the term slave used many times in "The Ten Commandments". Are you saying that movie is not true? Tongue

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Quote from: proparty on June 10, 2020, 07:57:45 PM

both, it's not either or it's about recognizing how the world has perpetually exploited blacks, and that now we all must stand up for them because we're all human, we don't chose our parents or how they raised us, but we can choose how to educate our selves on the matter of systemic racism and collectively unlearn the racist subtleties each of us have to better work collectively as a people moving forward into a future where block chain will empower us to develop new systems that work for us all and that can't be destroyed.

slavery is nothing new it always existed, black africans where never as explioited in numbers compared to other nations.

secondly the term "exploit" has a positive and a negative meaning, when africans where exploited people considered that "usage" not "exploitation" putting wild hunters and gatherers into organised plantation wasn't necessarily something negative, they where likely to die from snakes, animals etc.

race relations can't end as long as we have still a racist mob in the midst of the world, destroying stuff.

further black people are exploiting their mob, to pressure weak politicians to give them stuff, allianating others in the process.

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both, it's not either or it's about recognizing how the world has perpetually exploited blacks, and that now we all must stand up for them because we're all human, we don't chose our parents or how they raised us, but we can choose how to educate our selves on the matter of systemic racism and collectively unlearn the racist subtleties each of us have to better work collectively as a people moving forward into a future where block chain will empower us to develop new systems that work for us all and that can't be destroyed.

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i started in a different thread a distinction.

racism comes worldwide in 2 forms.

leftracism
and rightracism

leftracism seeks to achieve to mix races.

while rightracistm seeks to force them into racial rasters

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Quote from: PopoJeff on June 10, 2020, 05:36:55 AM

And I'm Irish, so I know a little about my ancestors being enslaved.

The word slave literally came from the fact that the Slavic people were enslaved. Of course that doesn't fit with the narrative that America invented slavery and only black people were ever slaves.

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Quote from: madnessteat on June 10, 2020, 03:34:18 PM

Quote from: BADecker on June 10, 2020, 03:20:56 PM

I agree. But explain why people die at all, and how they die very fast in war. I mean, if life were priceless, you would think that there would essentially be no death. Or is it the rareness of life that makes it priceless.

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Each of us is only given life once. That's why it's priceless. We can't buy a second life for any money.

People like sheep are led to slaughter so they don't appreciate their lives...

I think wars are being fought to reduce our planet's population, as the planet gets more polluted every day. Just imagine that every liter of oil extracted from the bowels of the earth is replaced by a liter of fresh water that we can no longer use. Sad

People recognize how precious and priceless their life is when they are threatened with immediate death. The routine of the day makes them forget if they are not threatened. Dead people don't realize how precious their life was.

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Quote from: BADecker on June 10, 2020, 03:20:56 PM

I agree. But explain why people die at all, and how they die very fast in war. I mean, if life were priceless, you would think that there would essentially be no death. Or is it the rareness of life that makes it priceless.

Cool

Each of us is only given life once. That's why it's priceless. We can't buy a second life for any money.

People like sheep are led to slaughter so they don't appreciate their lives...

I think wars are being fought to reduce our planet's population, as the planet gets more polluted every day. Just imagine that every liter of oil extracted from the bowels of the earth is replaced by a liter of fresh water that we can no longer use. Sad

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Quote from: BADecker on June 10, 2020, 03:23:03 PM

Quote from: KingScorpio on June 10, 2020, 02:58:57 PM

Quote from: PavelMed on June 10, 2020, 01:07:31 PM

Quote from: smyslov on June 10, 2020, 08:26:35 AM

Quote from: KingScorpio on June 09, 2020, 08:01:19 PM

whats your oppinion?

We are all one, whether black or white or brown or yellow people should not differentiate but the black lives matter movement people that blacks are on risks for being black because of the treatment they receive, because there are so many blacks have lost their lives the same way, of course the movement just want their voice heard and be treated as equals.

I agree, no matter who you are. But there is something else. The Indians were also oppressed and exterminated, but there is only such a boom. What is the reason for this? If you do not want to be oppressed, do not let yourself be oppressed. Is not it? Why are racism issues raised only in relation to Afro?

because they have learned to use it the best while all others discovered way to have benefits in the republics created, besides indian opression was ordered, europeans never had the choice, they where also forcefully converted to that religion

All you are saying is that the republic is a form of dictatorial rule. If all the members of the republic - the citizens - saw the Indian massacres, would they have been for them or against them? Remember, the Indians did their own massacres, too.

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exactly the republic freed the indians from their tribal wars and gave them a common langauge and common currency,
europeans today still suffer because they don't have a single currency like the people in former european colonies have.

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Quote from: KingScorpio on June 10, 2020, 02:58:57 PM

Quote from: PavelMed on June 10, 2020, 01:07:31 PM

Quote from: smyslov on June 10, 2020, 08:26:35 AM

Quote from: KingScorpio on June 09, 2020, 08:01:19 PM

whats your oppinion?

We are all one, whether black or white or brown or yellow people should not differentiate but the black lives matter movement people that blacks are on risks for being black because of the treatment they receive, because there are so many blacks have lost their lives the same way, of course the movement just want their voice heard and be treated as equals.

I agree, no matter who you are. But there is something else. The Indians were also oppressed and exterminated, but there is only such a boom. What is the reason for this? If you do not want to be oppressed, do not let yourself be oppressed. Is not it? Why are racism issues raised only in relation to Afro?

because they have learned to use it the best while all others discovered way to have benefits in the republics created, besides indian opression was ordered, europeans never had the choice, they where also forcefully converted to that religion

All you are saying is that the republic is a form of dictatorial rule. If all the members of the republic - the citizens - saw the Indian massacres, would they have been for them or against them? Remember, the Indians did their own massacres, too.

Cool

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Quote from: madnessteat on June 10, 2020, 02:43:34 PM

Human life is priceless and there is absolutely no difference in what color skin. It is true that sometimes I think that some people abuse their position, namely their disadvantaged rights.

I agree. But explain why people die at all, and how they die very fast in war. I mean, if life were priceless, you would think that there would essentially be no death. Or is it the rareness of life that makes it priceless.

Cool

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Quote from: PavelMed on June 10, 2020, 01:07:31 PM

Quote from: smyslov on June 10, 2020, 08:26:35 AM

Quote from: KingScorpio on June 09, 2020, 08:01:19 PM

whats your oppinion?

We are all one, whether black or white or brown or yellow people should not differentiate but the black lives matter movement people that blacks are on risks for being black because of the treatment they receive, because there are so many blacks have lost their lives the same way, of course the movement just want their voice heard and be treated as equals.

I agree, no matter who you are. But there is something else. The Indians were also oppressed and exterminated, but there is only such a boom. What is the reason for this? If you do not want to be oppressed, do not let yourself be oppressed. Is not it? Why are racism issues raised only in relation to Afro?

because they have learned to use it the best while all others discovered way to have benefits in the republics created, besides indian opression was ordered, europeans never had the choice, they where also forcefully converted to that religion

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Human life is priceless and there is absolutely no difference in what color skin. It is true that sometimes I think that some people abuse their position, namely their disadvantaged rights.

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