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December 08, 2019, 10:27:06 PM
How do you toggle a poll into this topic? We needed a poll but now it is too many pages.

It is not really do they hide their losses, it is more like do they just completely hide themselves entirely and act like secret agents with top secret clearance, or.... are they more human-like?

Are top traders like sharks with no life in them at all? All they do is gobble up bitcoins and can never get enough? Or are these real living productive people, or just are they on a totally different wave length?
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December 05, 2019, 10:57:14 AM
In other side, actually risk in trading must showed too. I mean if expert trader who have a lot of followers only show his profit, maybe that followers will think trading is easy way to get money. And then when they try it by themself, they face experience that really different from who they follow did.
This is something that is missing from almost any tutorial that you see in YouTube or the comments of all the popular social networks, traders tell you how much money they made, when they entered the market and when they got out of the market but they do not tell you how much risk they took in order to make those profits, and a perfect example of this is trading with leverage, those trading with huge leverage can produce great profits in a short amount of time but they do not tell you the immense risk that they are taking with each trade and that no newbie can handle effectively.
Greediness. This what people nowadays have, they search for "how to make money online", instead of searching "how to risk money online". Whenever I have my free time, I browse on different social media such as facebook and youtube, there is a lot of advertisement in those platform, one of those are trading. If you get into facebook/youtube video there will be ads to play. I noticed a bunch of one sided ads with various trading platform that is totally there just for the money. They show high returns from the capital which is the bright side of trading, which I really really get embarassed of (If you're a trader, I know you know the feeling).We came for the money, yes, but it doesn't stop with that. Trading will be effective if we could just see what it is really about.
In my opinion I think this also happens because people focus too much on their goal and not in the process, whenever I make a trade regardless of the result that I get I always analyze it in see if I followed my trading strategy, if I did regardless of whether or not I earned money I'm happy about it because I stuck to the process that I know in the long term will give me profits, but if I did not follow my trading strategy then I will try to understand why that happened and what I can do to correct that regardless of the result that I got.
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November 30, 2019, 01:11:58 PM
In other side, actually risk in trading must showed too. I mean if expert trader who have a lot of followers only show his profit, maybe that followers will think trading is easy way to get money. And then when they try it by themself, they face experience that really different from who they follow did.
This is something that is missing from almost any tutorial that you see in YouTube or the comments of all the popular social networks, traders tell you how much money they made, when they entered the market and when they got out of the market but they do not tell you how much risk they took in order to make those profits, and a perfect example of this is trading with leverage, those trading with huge leverage can produce great profits in a short amount of time but they do not tell you the immense risk that they are taking with each trade and that no newbie can handle effectively.
Greediness. This what people nowadays have, they search for "how to make money online", instead of searching "how to risk money online". Whenever I have my free time, I browse on different social media such as facebook and youtube, there is a lot of advertisement in those platform, one of those are trading. If you get into facebook/youtube video there will be ads to play. I noticed a bunch of one sided ads with various trading platform that is totally there just for the money. They show high returns from the capital which is the bright side of trading, which I really really get embarassed of (If you're a trader, I know you know the feeling).We came for the money, yes, but it doesn't stop with that. Trading will be effective if we could just see what it is really about.
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November 30, 2019, 12:04:15 PM
I beleive they are covering some of their losses but that is bad. Maybe they are afraid for their reputation but on.that way they represent the wrong picture for amateur traders that crypto trading is only profit or maybe just a smaller loss. That is why many think trading is fast and easy money and we are all.aware that is not true.
All of us had already experience loses in our daily trade, and it affects our financial income. Even the most popular and wealthy trader also experience loss of profit, and that was not good. Still, every business and transaction we learn to improve our daily or long term transaction. Every wealthy trader is not started being successful at; first, they learn from their experience, and they succeeded.
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November 30, 2019, 11:24:24 AM
In other side, actually risk in trading must showed too. I mean if expert trader who have a lot of followers only show his profit, maybe that followers will think trading is easy way to get money. And then when they try it by themself, they face experience that really different from who they follow did.
This is something that is missing from almost any tutorial that you see in YouTube or the comments of all the popular social networks, traders tell you how much money they made, when they entered the market and when they got out of the market but they do not tell you how much risk they took in order to make those profits, and a perfect example of this is trading with leverage, those trading with huge leverage can produce great profits in a short amount of time but they do not tell you the immense risk that they are taking with each trade and that no newbie can handle effectively.
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November 27, 2019, 01:00:30 PM
I beleive they are covering some of their losses but that is bad. Maybe they are afraid for their reputation but on.that way they represent the wrong picture for amateur traders that crypto trading is only profit or maybe just a smaller loss. That is why many think trading is fast and easy money and we are all.aware that is not true.
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November 27, 2019, 12:50:07 PM
of course they show thier wins becauase they are showing that they are successful  . who would like to show your huge losses in the public ?  but i have read some traders journal and they usually explain how they reach thier success . they also started small and faced some failures  .  hiding one's losses also mean that they are shy  . they shy to think that they loose alot of doing trade's  . im okay with that as long as they are honest enough to show thier exact winning  .
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November 27, 2019, 11:57:00 AM
not all expert traders hide their losses. there are some who try to share because it is for their experience. but some are hiding. depends on the behavior of the expert trader
That’s good for those who don’t hide as there is no reason to hide your lose as you know that loses and profit are part of life. We should share bravely with others and tell them the reasons that can make them suffer lose. We are in modern era so as we lose money we can sure it gain more and its not a big deal so sharing your experience will increase your own profit.

Not all yes it depends on the trader if he wanted to be true to his supporters and to make transparency that even experts in trading are encountering losses too that  you just need something that will compensate that losses, just like trading different kinds of coins/tokens or other strategies. If they will show this up, it will make more people encourage not to give up in trading.
In other side, actually risk in trading must showed too. I mean if expert trader who have a lot of followers only show his profit, maybe that followers will think trading is easy way to get money. And then when they try it by themself, they face experience that really different from who they follow did.
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November 27, 2019, 11:02:01 AM
not all expert traders hide their losses. there are some who try to share because it is for their experience. but some are hiding. depends on the behavior of the expert trader
That’s good for those who don’t hide as there is no reason to hide your lose as you know that loses and profit are part of life. We should share bravely with others and tell them the reasons that can make them suffer lose. We are in modern era so as we lose money we can sure it gain more and its not a big deal so sharing your experience will increase your own profit.

Not all yes it depends on the trader if he wanted to be true to his supporters and to make transparency that even experts in trading are encountering losses too that  you just need something that will compensate that losses, just like trading different kinds of coins/tokens or other strategies. If they will show this up, it will make more people encourage not to give up in trading.
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November 27, 2019, 10:54:53 AM
not all expert traders hide their losses. there are some who try to share because it is for their experience. but some are hiding. depends on the behavior of the expert trader
That’s good for those who don’t hide as there is no reason to hide your lose as you know that loses and profit are part of life. We should share bravely with others and tell them the reasons that can make them suffer lose. We are in modern era so as we lose money we can sure it gain more and its not a big deal so sharing your experience will increase your own profit.
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November 27, 2019, 06:07:45 AM
lot of tipsters and course sellers in online do this hide there losses and show wins , some even edit and show , obviously they show so much profit which is fake and to attract newbies and many traders to take there services , i have not seen any genuine traders share there profit and lose statement
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November 27, 2019, 04:18:20 AM
I believe we all did that, prestige is the reason. That's their decision what can we do about it? beside that as long they never give up to keep trying I like that. I hope fail trader can share their experience because that we want, learn something not watch something. Ask them how they fill and give advice to take a rest and try again.
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November 26, 2019, 10:43:46 PM
We should ask a dozen top traders to just do a straight up Copy & Paste the numbers from their completed trades and send them right on over to us in a PDF or something. I'd like to see. We can all analyze their moves. If we asked a dozen of them, maybe 1 will go along with it and share his or her numbers with Absolutely no altering.

Then we would have a topic to seriously discuss.

This is for real. For sure we have at least a dozen traders that are members here, who are rockin it. We have a boatload of admitted losers and that's actually huge asset for any trading forum. They are just as much a part of any market as somebody who makes huge gains.

Yeah but we need to see it first....
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November 26, 2019, 10:29:24 PM
Your post make me laugh so far I only knew few people with great honest to show their loss ( fail ) with positive thinking that next trade will be better. I only get one lesson so far we should not waste our timw about how much people loss but how they can win? important ask for better trading activity. So if someone up load their winning just ask their strategy if post fail give them suggest to keep going.
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November 26, 2019, 06:58:31 PM
not all expert traders hide their losses. there are some who try to share because it is for their experience. but some are hiding. depends on the behavior of the expert trader
Every successful business must accept debt at some point. With that been said, I don't see any reason why any expert hide his lost but I think you misunderstood the fact the crypto expert traders are quick to accept fate when they make lost and in terms of learning from their mistakes.
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November 26, 2019, 11:23:21 AM
not all expert traders hide their losses. there are some who try to share because it is for their experience. but some are hiding. depends on the behavior of the expert trader
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November 26, 2019, 10:53:04 AM
If the expert traders show what they've profited then it shows them as a master, if the loss is being shown to the outer world he will be the same as you and me who have failed lots and lots of times. Every expert arise out of learning from various experiences, the dedication is a must. Many traders go away from trading in between due to lack of funds, so only the person with luck and huge amounts to spare can turn to be an expert.

Indeed, trading is really one of the toughest job, although I am enjoying it, most of the time I felt alone, depressed, stressed especially if I can't predict right the market behavior,  I was just thinking that maybe I am too aggressiveness in trading that I want to learn in just short expand of time, that I don't expert much effort in checking out the good project, so little by little I am overcoming it, still not expert but I will get there someday, I don't rush myself now.
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November 25, 2019, 04:52:15 PM
If the expert traders show what they've profited then it shows them as a master, if the loss is being shown to the outer world he will be the same as you and me who have failed lots and lots of times. Every expert arise out of learning from various experiences, the dedication is a must. Many traders go away from trading in between due to lack of funds, so only the person with luck and huge amounts to spare can turn to be an expert.
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November 25, 2019, 03:56:50 PM
Why Im going to show my loses in trading it is private for me so that Ill need to hide on it must better to show is the profit to get in trading.
In trading on what we get mistake are need to be hide just our loses in trading or make it to sample that in a future we avoid on what loses we take in a past.

Ill think not only me experience on this kind of mistake in come of trading that we make loses in trading.


It is a lesson to learn, even expert did hide also for they take care of their reputation and as well as they don't get bothered for it. It was just past bad experience, everything turns good now. Yes, mistakes are often to happens at the start and we learn those mistakes which means that there is no need to remember it but rather to face the upcoming. 
Yes lesson learn on what mistake we have in a past about loses in trading. Newbie and expert they do it something like this hiding some loses, So we need to improve in a future our trading strategy so that we can aware on what mistake do us in the past or we need to learn more there are some people in here can help us also to share on what the experience they have.
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November 25, 2019, 12:51:24 PM
we can not only make winning trading transactions every so often we lose even there is never 100%, traders who have some reputation to defend who write in newspapers, social networks or offer their advice in trading tend to advertise only their successes and i do not say that they hide their losses but minimize or omit them...
To omit or to minimize their losses it is the same as hiding them, I know that some traders have a reputation to defend but getting losses is not a justification for it, if anything they could use their losses as an example of what they thought the market will do and explain their position and then show what the market actually did and show the evidence that pointed towards that movement, such a thing will be a great show of honesty and their readers will learn a lot from this experience.
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