Do expert traders hide their loses? - page 7.

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Quote from: alexsandria on November 03, 2019, 09:38:18 PM

Quote from: Pipdips on October 29, 2019, 11:29:47 AM

I notice that some experts doing online trading journals just show you all their wins, and they hide their loses and anything stupid they did to lose money. What traders out there sharing their daily trades are The Real McCoy? I am sure that ever super traders make super stupid mistakes, then they just do not want people to think they did anything stupid. Where are their big loses at? Why do they only show their wins?

First impression last. I am sure that they already did stupid mistakes. It is just that they do wanna impress viewers or may be afraid of being the reason to avoid. Besides the trader might want to look believable. Well how would you gonna look real if you can only show is those silly mistakes of yours right? And I don't find any fault with that even in some businesses usually happen something like this.

Of course they do that, what else would you expect especially when they are also selling signals and claiming to be selling you expensive information and professional advice? I've seen so many paid channels, and years ago stupid enough to even pay for premium and it's all the same bullshit.

Same thing with gamblers who only show good tips, it's all worthless.

The only honest ones are the ones who don't ask for payment I think. But even those give up and disappear when they do so badly.

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Quote from: Edraket31 on November 04, 2019, 01:51:47 AM

Quote from: riso2015 on November 04, 2019, 12:55:35 AM

I think all traders also hide their losses, They only show benefits to us so that we become interested,
or become followers of them. All traders must have felt a loss but they hide to cover their shame to the beginners.

They will for sure will not show how much losses they have, they will just show how much they are earning for a day. For me, its okay, no one should force them for this, what we need to focus is our own strategy, our own perception, our own destiny. We should not just rely on those expert traders, we should have our own.

To motivate someone, sometimes some traders talk about their benefits without telling about the losses they have received. this happened to a relative of mine who often told me about the highest profit he had ever gotten. however, I believe that to reach that point, so many sacrifices have been made. but believe me, no matter how good they plan, or tricks they use when they trading, they are so close to the risk of trading.

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Quote from: Edraket31 on November 04, 2019, 01:51:47 AM

Quote from: riso2015 on November 04, 2019, 12:55:35 AM

I think all traders also hide their losses, They only show benefits to us so that we become interested,
or become followers of them. All traders must have felt a loss but they hide to cover their shame to the beginners.

They will for sure will not show how much losses they have, they will just show how much they are earning for a day. For me, its okay, no one should force them for this, what we need to focus is our own strategy, our own perception, our own destiny. We should not just rely on those expert traders, we should have our own.

It is not okay if certain person offering trading educational program or even selling books meanwhile they are losing huge or just as equal to what they make. If an expert is trying to sell off his experience in trading they must be a qualified expert that have many succesfull experiences and shouldn't hide their losses. Although that's just my opinion but that's the most important thing for me to see whether a trading expert is qualified or not to give their opinion to other people or selling his knowledge. You know, sometimes people can be misleading.

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Quote from: riso2015 on November 04, 2019, 12:55:35 AM

I think all traders also hide their losses, They only show benefits to us so that we become interested,
or become followers of them. All traders must have felt a loss but they hide to cover their shame to the beginners.

They will for sure will not show how much losses they have, they will just show how much they are earning for a day. For me, its okay, no one should force them for this, what we need to focus is our own strategy, our own perception, our own destiny. We should not just rely on those expert traders, we should have our own.

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I think all traders also hide their losses, They only show benefits to us so that we become interested,
or become followers of them. All traders must have felt a loss but they hide to cover their shame to the beginners.

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Not only expert trader, most people will try to hide all their bad situation about losses, they do not want people give negative comment about the losses.
Expert, Professional, or whatever it's called want to built good reputation for their potofolio, so hiding the losses is one way of that. When they have reputation then they can do another business like paid signal, copytrade in forex trading, people will join him because see the trading portofolio. What we must understand is that it is impossible for a trader never experience a loss even they are an experts.

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Quote from: Pipdips on October 29, 2019, 11:29:47 AM

I notice that some experts doing online trading journals just show you all their wins, and they hide their loses and anything stupid they did to lose money. What traders out there sharing their daily trades are The Real McCoy? I am sure that ever super traders make super stupid mistakes, then they just do not want people to think they did anything stupid. Where are their big loses at? Why do they only show their wins?

The Real McCoy

That is the common mentality of everyone. When you trade successfully, you want to make it public to the people that you are a smart, talented person. But when you fail in a market where more amateurs make money, you will be inferior and don't want to be public. You still want to keep your reputation, that's the common mentality of the winners.

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Quote from: Pipdips on October 29, 2019, 11:29:47 AM

I notice that some experts doing online trading journals just show you all their wins, and they hide their loses and anything stupid they did to lose money. What traders out there sharing their daily trades are The Real McCoy? I am sure that ever super traders make super stupid mistakes, then they just do not want people to think they did anything stupid. Where are their big loses at? Why do they only show their wins?

First impression last. I am sure that they already did stupid mistakes. It is just that they do wanna impress viewers or may be afraid of being the reason to avoid. Besides the trader might want to look believable. Well how would you gonna look real if you can only show is those silly mistakes of yours right? And I don't find any fault with that even in some businesses usually happen something like this.

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Quote from: wxxyrqa on November 03, 2019, 04:03:51 AM

Quote from: marcbitcoins on November 02, 2019, 11:44:01 PM

Probably but I think that there is nothing wrong about hiding your losses because exposing them will just make the others to afraid in investing. It is just like spreading FUDs as the people will only think that Crypto investments is really risky making them to stay away in crypto therefore it would be better if we will just show them that we are earnings so that we could attract more people to join and invest in crypto.

In any case, a professional trader hides all the information that would be interesting to other users. I relate to this simpler, because traders hide not only information about their losses, but also about good profit. Very often I read topics where people ask professionals to share their strategies and many speak out on this subject. But I am sure that no one will tell about a real strategy that brings a good result. And no one wants to talk about personal lost at all.

Most of them only share their victory and never mention their loss when investing. I think this market should not trust anyone because everything can be fake and often inaccurate. In fact, if you are a long-time trader, losing money is inevitable because big fluctuations are the only reason they feel most worried. I am pretty sure the current investment strategies are not applicable because those strategies are too old and not many people are interested.

It is best to trust yourself during this time because if you have the trading knowledge, you will be easier to make a profit in the bear market.

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Quote from: wxxyrqa on November 03, 2019, 04:03:51 AM

Quote from: marcbitcoins on November 02, 2019, 11:44:01 PM

Probably but I think that there is nothing wrong about hiding your losses because exposing them will just make the others to afraid in investing. It is just like spreading FUDs as the people will only think that Crypto investments is really risky making them to stay away in crypto therefore it would be better if we will just show them that we are earnings so that we could attract more people to join and invest in crypto.

In any case, a professional trader hides all the information that would be interesting to other users. I relate to this simpler, because traders hide not only information about their losses, but also about good profit. Very often I read topics where people ask professionals to share their strategies and many speak out on this subject. But I am sure that no one will tell about a real strategy that brings a good result. And no one wants to talk about personal lost at all.

Does it apply in general? For me it is different in such case wherein a trader who use their profits or portfolion to show how good he or she as trader and the other type was the one you've said, they are hiding the profits and losses.

What's good that caught my mind is the strategy that you're talking about. The real strategy that everyone has will not be revealed because it is your own key. Like me, i gave all my ideas, but what i am doing with that certain tools, in my own chart will not be shared.

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Quote from: Ararbermas on November 02, 2019, 09:53:39 AM

Traders are more happy to share their wins than losses because you know its an achievement for them. Actually as a trader its very important to share positivity to others , wherein just to show how doing trading can help ppl to make few dollars in easy way. Rather than sharing losses because it cant help to influence other ppl who interested in it.

It would not hurt when they shared. precisely so many people can learn the location of errors in taking a trading position. I respect with those who not only share profitable trading signals but also those who lose. there I can learn every mistake made. it is very hypocritical if they say they have never lost to trading. Grin

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Some of them yes and some of them are not, they have names to care so they not want to see others their loses especially in social media's. They are not perpect obviously they got loses too but because they have lot of followers they not what to see their loses so they better to hide it. But in other hand some of known names are very vocal and honest to their followers, it's a personal decision of a person to hide what they lose.

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Quote from: FlamingFingers on November 03, 2019, 12:56:12 PM

There are several twitter dudes who hide their loses and keep on showing only their wins, the percentage of their loses is far more greater than their wins and most of are rekt now and no more giving calls

If you think logically, successful traders have much better things to do than to waste time with noobs on Twitter or any other social media platform, especially with how the crypto market is active 24 hours a day non stop.

From what I have seen it really seems that these TA influencers on social media are just thriving on the views and clicks they generate, and then in some cases also the signals and courses that they offer to their largely noob audience.

I can only laugh seeing these influencers do their best too hard, but it seems to be effective enough to attract views and clicks, so they will continue doing the same they have always done because it works. Undecided

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Quote from: FlamingFingers on November 03, 2019, 12:56:12 PM

No expert trader will show you their loses online, perhaps if you are close to them to an extent they might decide to show you secretly
Majority of the so called expert traders have a paid channel, showing their followers their loses will tend to reduce the trust in their trade calls
There are several twitter dudes who hide their loses and keep on showing only their wins, the percentage of their loses is far more greater than their wins and most of are rekt now and no more giving calls

there are some expert traders who are transparent about this, but they use terms like "have touched sl due to btc conditions" actually this is good for transparency because there is no analysis that has a perfect ratio.

The bad thing is that an expert trader hides all losses and only writes signals after he gets profits and signals only for fomo purposes, or tries to take their coins that have been floating for too long, this is very unhealthy for their followers.

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No expert trader will show you their loses online, perhaps if you are close to them to an extent they might decide to show you secretly
Majority of the so called expert traders have a paid channel, showing their followers their loses will tend to reduce the trust in their trade calls
There are several twitter dudes who hide their loses and keep on showing only their wins, the percentage of their loses is far more greater than their wins and most of are rekt now and no more giving calls

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Quote from: Pipdips on October 29, 2019, 11:29:47 AM

I notice that some experts doing online trading journals just show you all their wins, and they hide their loses and anything stupid they did to lose money. What traders out there sharing their daily trades are The Real McCoy? I am sure that ever super traders make super stupid mistakes, then they just do not want people to think they did anything stupid. Where are their big loses at? Why do they only show their wins?

The Real McCoy

They will never show their negative side in order to gain more support from people and potary them as trading expert who never loose in their feild.Who will listen to someone who has failed and then giving advice to others on how to trade effectively.Its very simple rule that if you want followers show show your shining face to the world not the hidden face behind mask.

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Quote from: wxxyrqa on November 03, 2019, 04:03:51 AM

Quote from: marcbitcoins on November 02, 2019, 11:44:01 PM

Probably but I think that there is nothing wrong about hiding your losses because exposing them will just make the others to afraid in investing. It is just like spreading FUDs as the people will only think that Crypto investments is really risky making them to stay away in crypto therefore it would be better if we will just show them that we are earnings so that we could attract more people to join and invest in crypto.

In any case, a professional trader hides all the information that would be interesting to other users. I relate to this simpler, because traders hide not only information about their losses, but also about good profit. Very often I read topics where people ask professionals to share their strategies and many speak out on this subject. But I am sure that no one will tell about a real strategy that brings a good result. And no one wants to talk about personal lost at all.

I still think that depends. There are professional traders who make money out of providing tips to other traders. These people of course have a reputation to consider so they'd want to have an impressive slate when they offer their services. Though in general, i agree that there's little interest in a professional trader's losses. There's nothing to be taken out of it unless he's making money through his image of being a consistent earner.

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Quote from: wxxyrqa on November 03, 2019, 04:03:51 AM

Quote from: marcbitcoins on November 02, 2019, 11:44:01 PM

Probably but I think that there is nothing wrong about hiding your losses because exposing them will just make the others to afraid in investing. It is just like spreading FUDs as the people will only think that Crypto investments is really risky making them to stay away in crypto therefore it would be better if we will just show them that we are earnings so that we could attract more people to join and invest in crypto.

In any case, a professional trader hides all the information that would be interesting to other users. I relate to this simpler, because traders hide not only information about their losses, but also about good profit. Very often I read topics where people ask professionals to share their strategies and many speak out on this subject. But I am sure that no one will tell about a real strategy that brings a good result. And no one wants to talk about personal lost at all.

Might correct as well, Maybe showing a loss on a professional trader can hurt the trader's status, There are many platforms that offer a ride on a certain trader which they are calling a professional trader. I think platforms show traders' current status to rank them up. I really don't know how to determine a professional trader.

A trader doesn't show its trading history unless a trader wants to prove something or just want to share his history to others, I am a trader and I'm just scared to share my trading history, I may be scared on receiving different questions that I can't answer because of different scenarios on the market.

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Quote from: marcbitcoins on November 02, 2019, 11:44:01 PM

Probably but I think that there is nothing wrong about hiding your losses because exposing them will just make the others to afraid in investing. It is just like spreading FUDs as the people will only think that Crypto investments is really risky making them to stay away in crypto therefore it would be better if we will just show them that we are earnings so that we could attract more people to join and invest in crypto.

In any case, a professional trader hides all the information that would be interesting to other users. I relate to this simpler, because traders hide not only information about their losses, but also about good profit. Very often I read topics where people ask professionals to share their strategies and many speak out on this subject. But I am sure that no one will tell about a real strategy that brings a good result. And no one wants to talk about personal lost at all.

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Most probably but I think that there is nothing wrong about hiding your losses because exposing them will just make the others to afraid in investing. It is just like spreading FUDs as the people will only think that Crypto investments is really risky making them to stay away in crypto therefore it would be better if we will just show them that we are earnings so that we could attract more people to join and invest in crypto.

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