Do not bet with Matthew N. Wright without an escrow on both sides

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Quote from: Transisto on August 23, 2012, 12:07:56 AM

escrow ? what is it you don't understand ?

The escrow is the public log of the thread, the enforcement method is bitcointalk/online reputation.

Why would you need an escrow on your side ?

Because money > bitcointalk/online reputation maybe?

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dust: I think at this point many would be interested in knowing about your portfolio.
This may be the right time for you to launch an investment fund or newsletter.

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Quote from: dust on September 09, 2012, 01:30:47 PM

Bumping for "I told you so".

Heh heh yup..

Im happy at least he got his Scammer tag.

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Bumping for "I told you so".

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Quote from: Transisto on August 23, 2012, 12:07:56 AM

escrow ? what is it you don't understand ?

The escrow is the public log of the thread, the enforcement method is bitcointalk/online reputation.

Why would you need an escrow on your side ?

Why not? That's the better question.

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escrow ? what is it you don't understand ?

The escrow is the public log of the thread, the enforcement method is bitcointalk/online reputation.

Why would you need an escrow on your side ?

Grinder

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Quote from: BTCurious on August 21, 2012, 08:54:53 PM

I will bet you 100 Bitcoins that Matthew will fulfill his end of the deal within 3 weeks after a conclusion.

This means that if Matthew wins (pirate pays out) Matthew is done and I get 100 Bitcoins from you.
If it is decided that Matthew loses and has to pay you Ƀ250, and he /doesn't/ do so within 3 weeks, I will give you 100 Bitcoins. (The 3 weeks start after it's been decided that Matthew loses. Suggestions on how this should be decided?)

We can use a two-sided escrow on this bet if you want to. I've got a decent rating though.

I'll bet 1 BTC that BTCurious will honor this bet!

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Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on August 22, 2012, 03:38:47 AM

Quote from: Matthew N. Wright on August 22, 2012, 02:10:10 AM

Quote from: dust on August 22, 2012, 02:06:06 AM

Quote from: Matthew N. Wright on August 22, 2012, 02:02:59 AM

Quote from: Luceo on August 22, 2012, 01:59:00 AM

He runs a business which is worth several hundred thousand dollars, and only target market resides here on the forums. I don't think he's going to accept a scammer label over a few thousand BTC.

Wisdom.

What is the basis of this valuation? I'm not trolling, just genuinely curious.

Are you an investor? If not, I'm not legally allowed to discuss that with you. You'll have to sign and return a Statement for Certified High Net Worth Individual to legal, then Vladimir will ask you if you're serious about investing and if you say "no I just wanted to know more information about your private company", he'll probably ignore you from then on. Good luck!

Its pretty retarded that investing in companies is limited to high net worth individuals but that says a lot about the kind of society we live in.

It's the single most stupid law ever. JOBS act ruined the internet.

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Wat

Quote from: Matthew N. Wright on August 22, 2012, 02:10:10 AM

Quote from: dust on August 22, 2012, 02:06:06 AM

Quote from: Matthew N. Wright on August 22, 2012, 02:02:59 AM

Quote from: Luceo on August 22, 2012, 01:59:00 AM

He runs a business which is worth several hundred thousand dollars, and only target market resides here on the forums. I don't think he's going to accept a scammer label over a few thousand BTC.

Wisdom.

What is the basis of this valuation? I'm not trolling, just genuinely curious.

Are you an investor? If not, I'm not legally allowed to discuss that with you. You'll have to sign and return a Statement for Certified High Net Worth Individual to legal, then Vladimir will ask you if you're serious about investing and if you say "no I just wanted to know more information about your private company", he'll probably ignore you from then on. Good luck!

Its pretty retarded that investing in companies is limited to high net worth individuals but that says a lot about the kind of society we live in.

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Quote from: mp420 on August 22, 2012, 03:35:08 AM

As I see it, there can be complications in this bet. For example, if Pirate buys back a major part of this debt at, say, less than 10% of face value and then actually pays back the few true believers, I still consider him having defaulted, and having been a scammer. I don't think this is likely though. But this might affect the outcome of the bet. In that case I am left with the choice: Either lose my money or lose my reputation. I think this is a fair outcome.

If there is no proof he bought back his debt then it is not relative to the bet. Fraud is something you have to prove, and we will not be speculating on the could's and would's with this bet. Only the sureties. He will pay back everything he owes on the terms the investors agreed on within 3 weeks or I lose. End of story.

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As I see it, there can be complications in this bet. For example, if Pirate buys back a major part of this debt at, say, less than 10% of face value and then actually pays back the few true believers, I still consider him having defaulted, and having been a scammer. I don't think this is likely though. But this might affect the outcome of the bet. In that case I am left with the choice: Either lose my money or lose my reputation. I think this is a fair outcome.

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Quote from: dust on August 22, 2012, 02:06:06 AM

Quote from: Matthew N. Wright on August 22, 2012, 02:02:59 AM

Quote from: Luceo on August 22, 2012, 01:59:00 AM

He runs a business which is worth several hundred thousand dollars, and only target market resides here on the forums. I don't think he's going to accept a scammer label over a few thousand BTC.

Wisdom.

What is the basis of this valuation? I'm not trolling, just genuinely curious.

Are you an investor? If not, I'm not legally allowed to discuss that with you. You'll have to sign and return a Statement for Certified High Net Worth Individual to legal, then Vladimir will ask you if you're serious about investing and if you say "no I just wanted to know more information about your private company", he'll probably ignore you from then on. Good luck!

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Quote from: dust on August 22, 2012, 02:06:06 AM

Quote from: Matthew N. Wright on August 22, 2012, 02:02:59 AM

Quote from: Luceo on August 22, 2012, 01:59:00 AM

He runs a business which is worth several hundred thousand dollars, and only target market resides here on the forums. I don't think he's going to accept a scammer label over a few thousand BTC.

Wisdom.

What is the basis of this valuation? I'm not trolling, just genuinely curious.

Don't mind Luceo, he's delirious. MNW lives in his parents basement in Korea.

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Quote from: Matthew N. Wright on August 22, 2012, 02:02:59 AM

Quote from: Luceo on August 22, 2012, 01:59:00 AM

He runs a business which is worth several hundred thousand dollars, and only target market resides here on the forums. I don't think he's going to accept a scammer label over a few thousand BTC.

Wisdom.

What is the basis of this valuation? I'm not trolling, just genuinely curious.

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Quote from: Luceo on August 22, 2012, 01:59:00 AM

He runs a business which is worth several hundred thousand dollars, and only target market resides here on the forums. I don't think he's going to accept a scammer label over a few thousand BTC.

Wisdom.

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Per aspera ad astra!

He runs a business which is worth several hundred thousand dollars, and only target market resides here on the forums. I don't think he's going to accept a scammer label over a few thousand BTC.

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Quote from: BTCurious on August 21, 2012, 08:54:53 PM

I will bet you 100 Bitcoins that Matthew will fulfill his end of the deal within 3 weeks after a conclusion.

This means that if Matthew wins (pirate pays out) Matthew is done and I get 100 Bitcoins from you.
If it is decided that Matthew loses and has to pay you Ƀ250, and he /doesn't/ do so within 3 weeks, I will give you 100 Bitcoins. (The 3 weeks start after it's been decided that Matthew loses. Suggestions on how this should be decided?)

We can use a two-sided escrow on this bet if you want to. I've got a decent rating though.

I would like to clarify that I am 95% confident that Matthew will pay me if I win. I am not looking to bet that he won't.

I have removed the capitalized words from the title to make this seem less alarmist.

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Quote from: drakahn on August 21, 2012, 09:32:55 PM

lol, MNW IS A PONZI!

Apart from that, i bet with him without an escrow, fuck da police

lol epic

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lol, MNW IS A PONZI!

Apart from that, i bet with him without an escrow, fuck da police

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Quote from: BTCurious on August 21, 2012, 08:54:53 PM

I will bet you 100 Bitcoins that Matthew will fulfill his end of the deal within 3 weeks after a conclusion.

This means that if Matthew wins (pirate pays out) Matthew is done and I get 100 Bitcoins from you.
If it is decided that Matthew loses and has to pay you Ƀ250, and he /doesn't/ do so within 3 weeks, I will give you 100 Bitcoins. (The 3 weeks start after it's been decided that Matthew loses. Suggestions on how this should be decided?)

We can use a two-sided escrow on this bet if you want to. I've got a decent rating though.

If this gets booked and not escrowed, I'll take action on BTCurious paying out.

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