Pages:
Author

Topic: Do not bet with Matthew N. Wright without an escrow on both sides - page 2. (Read 2841 times)

hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 504
^SEM img of Si wafer edge, scanned 2012-3-12.
I will bet you 100 Bitcoins that Matthew will fulfill his end of the deal within 3 weeks after a conclusion.

This means that if Matthew wins (pirate pays out) Matthew is done and I get 100 Bitcoins from you.
If it is decided that Matthew loses and has to pay you Ƀ250, and he /doesn't/ do so within 3 weeks, I will give you 100 Bitcoins. (The 3 weeks start after it's been decided that Matthew loses. Suggestions on how this should be decided?)

We can use a two-sided escrow on this bet if you want to. I've got a decent rating though.
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1004
Why would he want to change the conditions in your favour after the fact? Makes no sense.

You should have insisted before the fact, he has dealt through escrow with other bettors.
Which is why I'm standing by my bet.  I just wanted to make everyone aware that they should use an escrow.

Honestly I think you made a good bet.  And should you win I expect you will be paid.  Should you lose, have those coins ready. 
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
I offered to amend the terms of the bet.
Matthew, I will reduce your liability from 250BTC to 240BTC if we amend the terms of the bet to include an escrow on both sides.
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
Why would he want to change the conditions in your favour after the fact? Makes no sense.

You should have insisted before the fact, he has dealt through escrow with other bettors.
Which is why I'm standing by my bet.  I just wanted to make everyone aware that they should use an escrow.
donator
Activity: 980
Merit: 1000
Why would he want to change the conditions in your favour after the fact? Makes no sense.

You should have insisted before the fact, he has dealt through escrow with other bettors.
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1004
He offered a deal to you, and you accepted.  You may not trust him but you have put nothing up and he also has to trust you.  If you do not like those terms do not bet.

I personally think what he is offering is a little foolish but it shows he has much more testicular fortitude then I do and he believes in what he is doing. 
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
I placed a bet with Matthew on Sunday.  My 100BTC on pirate defaulting against his 250BTC, everything else same terms as his thread.  After his thread exploded in popularity, I decided to demand an escrow.  He did not want to escrow, which I have begrudgingly agreed to because it was not in the original terms of the bet.

However, I urge all future bettors to not bet without both sides in escrow.

Anyone might be a scammer if there is enough money involved.  

Here is a quote from Matthew quoting some of my PMs.
I'm going to have to call you out on this If you do not escrow.  What if you are just trying to teach everyone a lesson that they too, can be scammed.


You continue to post and yet have not responded.

Do you agree to escrow?

If you do not, I will assume you are scamming and go public on the forums.

I will make this exact bet with some pirate supporter with escrow to prove I am not dodging the bet.

This guy now wants to change his bet after the fact by adding escrow. I have escrowed privately with many people who I thought it was necessary, and many people have escrowed through third parties (I presume), but to demand it "or else I'm going public" -after- making a bet where escrow was not offered, is a bit tacky, and you not wanting to follow the OP when you place your bet will not change the legitimacy of your bet.

Thank you.
Pages:
Jump to: