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legendary
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August 07, 2017, 03:11:54 AM
Hi there. So i wanted to give it a try and used a small wallet to check if electron cash is safe to use. Well it is not. I imported a wallet using all the precautions needed to save my bitcoins, and imported a small amount of bcc into the wallet. A couple of minutes later the bcc were sent away like magic. Farewell...

So be carefull!!!

Here's a screenshot

upload pic

did you downloaded it from original source, because there are a bunch of website that have similar name of electrum.org but they are indeed a scam site that steal your wallet
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
August 07, 2017, 02:41:06 AM
There was a twitter made by electrum about this software:
https://twitter.com/ElectrumWallet/status/891935330235973633
WARNING: "Electron Cash" will copy all your Electrum wallets to its own directory, and their binaries are anonymous

So I am not surprised to read about a clear scam about Electron Cash. Also the name similar to Electrum wallets sounds like a scam Sad

This is just a warning and it is a good one!

BUT Electron Cash will not copy anything it will ask you and only after you supply seed oder keys it will effectively have a copy.
Which is exactly what you want and you don't risk bitcoins if you moved them first.

Most error i've seen is people use the wrong private key or have wrong nodes selected and they get scared, but not one lost the coins because of this software itself.

hero member
Activity: 541
Merit: 500
August 07, 2017, 01:14:27 AM
In my case: I change HDD effectively.

I do not have two wallets on the same HDD.

(and in Coinomi, android wallet: zero balance)
legendary
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August 07, 2017, 12:58:47 AM
Are you using electrum and electron in the same system?

Everyone said in uppercase not to use electron and electrum together
hero member
Activity: 541
Merit: 500
August 07, 2017, 12:52:53 AM
In my case are private keys given by blockchain.info to an old address of theirs.

I'm thinking about a problem with the new chain bitcoin-cash, because in a similar case (on the romanian forum) a colleague received from the bitcoin-abc wallet, at "transactions": "Open for 200 more blocks" ...and in blockchain he has "total unspent" (balance) correct.
legendary
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August 06, 2017, 10:03:11 PM

Hi George5 and Martisor-Sobru.
If you have used your priv key through electron cash wallet, you probably get scammed.
you can't move your coins but they have a backup of the priv key... so their wallet is really unsecure to use, both for spend/save bcc.
It's a good sign you can see your coins, maybe they can't spend or they forget it.

Hi bitbollo,

I don't think that we got scammed. That software is open-source and many people claim that it worked for them.
Besides, I just checked bcc block explorer and all the coins are still there, on my original addresses.
I start wondering if Electrum wallet gave me the wrong private keys (is that even possible???) when I tried to export them?
Otherwise it doesn't make sense why all BCC wallets say that there is no funds on those keys.
legendary
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August 06, 2017, 05:51:05 PM
Hello everyone. I have a problem claiming my Bitcoin cash from the private keys.

I had a BTC balance on Electrum wallet before and after the swap. Moved my BTC after the swap to a diff address for security reasons. Now cannot use my private keys, every wallet (Electron cash, coinomi, Bitcoin ABC ) says that there is no funds on those keys, but the block explorer confirms that my Bitcoin Cash is there: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/address/36XmauGXBMEMjMNbRXxmCWy1X8g9SLEwFC. What am I doing wrong? Anyone has an idea?
Thanks.

Same problem.

Electron cash 2.9.2: when making a wallet "read only" (with private public keys) => correctly shows the balance bitcoin cash.

When making normal wallet, with private keys (with transaction rights) it shows a zero balance.  Huh

Hi George5 and Martisor-Sobru.
If you have used your priv key through electron cash wallet, you probably get scammed.
you can't move your coins but they have a backup of the priv key... so their wallet is really unsecure to use, both for spend/save bcc.
It's a good sign you can see your coins, maybe they can't spend or they forget it.
hero member
Activity: 541
Merit: 500
August 06, 2017, 09:30:11 AM
Hello everyone. I have a problem claiming my Bitcoin cash from the private keys.

I had a BTC balance on Electrum wallet before and after the swap. Moved my BTC after the swap to a diff address for security reasons. Now cannot use my private keys, every wallet (Electron cash, coinomi, Bitcoin ABC ) says that there is no funds on those keys, but the block explorer confirms that my Bitcoin Cash is there: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/address/36XmauGXBMEMjMNbRXxmCWy1X8g9SLEwFC. What am I doing wrong? Anyone has an idea?
Thanks.

Same problem.

Electron cash 2.9.2: when making a wallet "read only" (with private public keys) => correctly shows the balance bitcoin cash.

When making normal wallet, with private keys (with transaction rights) it shows a zero balance.  Huh
sr. member
Activity: 2030
Merit: 356
August 06, 2017, 09:01:05 AM
Actually the first time I had heard of that project. It's weird that during the hard Fork there seems to be more people scamming off of etherium and other different types of coins besides Bitcoin then Bitcoin itself. I had a big expectations they were going to use Bitcoin cash as a way to steal money from people, not the coin itself but that they would be a lot of software out there they would claim to safely move your Bitcoin to bitcoin cash or whatever and then steal your coins.

But it looks like most of the thief is going on in different parts of the crypto currency world and most people seeing that many people investing in cryptoworld tends to scam people and therefore we should be careful with our coins and their investments.

hero member
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August 06, 2017, 08:55:13 AM
Actually the first time I had heard of that project. It's weird that during the hard Fork there seems to be more people scamming off of etherium and other different types of coins besides Bitcoin then Bitcoin itself. I had a big expectations they were going to use Bitcoin cash as a way to steal money from people, not the coin itself but that they would be a lot of software out there they would claim to safely move your Bitcoin to bitcoin cash or whatever and then steal your coins.
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1008
August 06, 2017, 07:18:45 AM
#99
I successfully used Electron Cash to get my Bitcoin Cash.
You just need to manually select server and it will work fine.

For some, it worked well. But others had bad experience with this software. I had installed Electron Cash on my desktop a few days back. But I got suspicious and I uninstalled it immediately. I would rather wait until Blockchain.info provides BCH claiming services.
newbie
Activity: 55
Merit: 0
August 06, 2017, 07:16:06 AM
#98
Hi there. So i wanted to give it a try and used a small wallet to check if electron cash is safe to use. Well it is not. I imported a wallet using all the precautions needed to save my bitcoins, and imported a small amount of bcc into the wallet. A couple of minutes later the bcc were sent away like magic. Farewell...

So be carefull!!!

Here's a screenshot

upload pic
hello,can anyone tell me how to upload the screenshot in the post?
I try it several time,but fail
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
August 06, 2017, 07:07:33 AM
#97
I successfully used Electron Cash to get my Bitcoin Cash.
You just need to manually select server and it will work fine.
member
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Merit: 10
August 06, 2017, 06:28:39 AM
#96
Its problem in wallet or error when doing transaction..
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
August 06, 2017, 06:07:30 AM
#95
I've probably been an idiot but maybe someone can help. I've tried claiming my BCH but i didn't move my BTC to a new wallet before creating the BCH wallet. Now Electron Cash is showing the correct amount of BCH but it's been unverified for a week now.

It's a really small amount so it won't be a problem if it's gone but i was just wondering if there's any way to get it back.
full member
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August 06, 2017, 03:16:18 AM
#94
Thanks!

Is it a forever fail?

The bcc have to be somewhere?
Imported private keys and bcc says 0???

I did this:

1. Had electrum wallet where i had bitcoin from 31st to 2nd
(electrum wallet with 2 factor authentification from trusted coin)

(exact times: put bitcoins in adress at 31.7    17:00h, put them out again at 2.8 11:00h) -> are the times right?
(sent the bitcoin to other adress)

2. In this wallet went to 'used addresses' in electrum and copy-pasted private keys - there were 2 of them,
always right click show private keys and had to give password every time

3. Uninstalled electrum cash (and moved the electrum folder in the roaming shared folder on c:)

4.  Installed electrum cash

5. chose 'manual server', took electroncash.cascharia.com

6. made new standard wallet

7. chose 'use public or private keys'

8. put in the 2 private keys in, each one in his own line (pressed 'enter' after first)

9. Expect bcc to show up but are not there
Bitdozer showed 0 bcc on this wallet
(also showed 0bcc on the adress of the bitcoin wallet in 1.)


Don't know if it's got sth to do with it, but instead of creating a new wallet (your no 6) I klicked sth like "restore wallet".
legendary
Activity: 1208
Merit: 1003
August 06, 2017, 02:41:07 AM
#93

you are using the old private keys - not those for the address you moved your bitcoin to, right?
what server are you connected to exactly?
you need to connect to a bitcoin cash server not a bitcoin electrum server.
i tried casharia as described below:


Yes of course, Im using the old ones that I stored BTC before and after the swap.

I also connected to casharia server (and tried some others just in case), Im sure that the problem is not here.


I think half and half but it doesn't mean not to use really electronic cash. For as long as it is useful regardless of the source of the cash. We as people are not hyprocrites to disregard money because that's how we survive daily. What's more necessary to us is how we can manage ourselves in giving importance on what we do everyday with that cash inlvove in us. If the company uses electronic cash, so be it. You can't choose your own if you need a job so just work and be contended so that you can have or get your income by means of electronic cash.

I don't know how to apply this advice to my problem Huh
legendary
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August 06, 2017, 01:56:07 AM
#92
Hello everyone. I have a problem claiming my Bitcoin cash from the private keys.

I had a BTC balance on Electrum wallet before and after the swap. Moved my BTC after the swap to a diff address for security reasons. Now cannot use my private keys, every wallet (Electron cash, coinomi, Bitcoin ABC ) says that there is no funds on those keys, but the block explorer confirms that my Bitcoin Cash is there: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/address/36XmauGXBMEMjMNbRXxmCWy1X8g9SLEwFC. What am I doing wrong? Anyone has an idea?
Thanks.

Wait for sync and make sure the wallet is connecting?

Everything is synced and connected to the right servers. Also tripple-checked that the public and private keys match.

you are using the old private keys - not those for the address you moved your bitcoin to, right?
what server are you connected to exactly?
you need to connect to a bitcoin cash server not a bitcoin electrum server.
i tried casharia as described below:

same thing happened to me, it showed my btc transaction. just change the server to one that is bch. (click network, bottom right, deselect 'select server automatically' then go to server tab and right click on server (with correct height 478562 as of now, i used casharia) and click 'use as server.' then the btc transaction is gone.
Confirmed Electron Cash works using this process.  Grin

I used the same Bip39 seed as my original wallet (now empty) but still full in Electron Cash.

thanks guys, this helped!
sr. member
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Merit: 250
August 06, 2017, 01:42:12 AM
#91
Hello everyone. I have a problem claiming my Bitcoin cash from the private keys.

I had a BTC balance on Electrum wallet before and after the swap. Moved my BTC after the swap to a diff address for security reasons. Now cannot use my private keys, every wallet (Electron cash, coinomi, Bitcoin ABC ) says that there is no funds on those keys, but the block explorer confirms that my Bitcoin Cash is there: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/address/36XmauGXBMEMjMNbRXxmCWy1X8g9SLEwFC. What am I doing wrong? Anyone has an idea?
Thanks.

Wait for sync and make sure the wallet is connecting?

Everything is synced and connected to the right servers. Also tripple-checked that the public and private keys match.
I think half and half but it doesn't mean not to use really electronic cash. For as long as it is useful regardless of the source of the cash. We as people are not hyprocrites to disregard money because that's how we survive daily. What's more necessary to us is how we can manage ourselves in giving importance on what we do everyday with that cash inlvove in us. If the company uses electronic cash, so be it. You can't choose your own if you need a job so just work and be contended so that you can have or get your income by means of electronic cash.
legendary
Activity: 1208
Merit: 1003
August 06, 2017, 12:41:14 AM
#90
Hello everyone. I have a problem claiming my Bitcoin cash from the private keys.

I had a BTC balance on Electrum wallet before and after the swap. Moved my BTC after the swap to a diff address for security reasons. Now cannot use my private keys, every wallet (Electron cash, coinomi, Bitcoin ABC ) says that there is no funds on those keys, but the block explorer confirms that my Bitcoin Cash is there: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/address/36XmauGXBMEMjMNbRXxmCWy1X8g9SLEwFC. What am I doing wrong? Anyone has an idea?
Thanks.

Wait for sync and make sure the wallet is connecting?

Everything is synced and connected to the right servers. Also tripple-checked that the public and private keys match.
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