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Topic: Do not use USB sticks for long term storage! Its not safe! - page 4. (Read 5093 times)

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Even if you use them, it should be encrypted
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sr. member
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I was not aware of that. Really nice information that you gave me. I was considering buying a Ledger wallet, but I will finally stick (Cheesy) to the good old paper wallets !
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Yea, I'm aware of that too.

Thank you!
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Engrave your private keys in a block of tungsten, basically indestructible.

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Just a reminder

Its not safe to use USB sticks or SSDs for long term storage they lose data over time if they are not powered!

You can't just stick your private keys on a few USB sticks or SSD and box them up for 4 - 8 years you will lose all your coins.

For long term storage have at least 3 backups paper wallets or HDDs. You can even use something like DropBox But be sure to encrypt your wallet and change the name.

You can even hide your wallet inside a image file.
This is one of the reasons I prefer optical media (CD, DVD, Blu-ray). They are cheap and durable.

check out M-Disc DVDs
full member
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Just a reminder

Its not safe to use USB sticks or SSDs for long term storage they lose data over time if they are not powered!

You can't just stick your private keys on a few USB sticks or SSD and box them up for 4 - 8 years you will lose all your coins.

For long term storage have at least 3 backups paper wallets or HDDs. You can even use something like DropBox But be sure to encrypt your wallet and change the name.

You can even hide your wallet inside a image file.
This is one of the reasons I prefer optical media (CD, DVD, Blu-ray). They are cheap and durable.
hero member
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I bought an expensive USB key a while ago to back up my wallet.dat
I can't see that losing data, maybe with a shitty $5 one though it could happen.
Chances are your data should be fine, but just make sure to plug it in occasionally to check up on it.

And, as said by the OP, just write stuff down multiple times and put copies in multiple secure places. Just make sure you have as many instances of the information as possible for the maximum possible level of security when it comes to your investment.

I'm not sure what brand it is, but if it is considerably more expensive than other USB sticks of the same size, it should be on the higher end and will likely hold your data better. Just make sure to check reviews for it.
legendary
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Privacy is always important

Just a reminder

Its not safe to use USB sticks or SSDs for long term storage they lose data over time if they are not powered!

You can't just stick your private keys on a few USB sticks or SSD and box them up for 4 - 8 years you will lose all your coins.

For long term storage have at least 3 backups paper wallets or HDDs. You can even use something like DropBox But be sure to encrypt your wallet and change the name.

You can even hide your wallet inside a image file.
Yeah usb and ssds are not recommended because i tried all my usb and ssds to dont use for a long time..
I am technician and i know if you dont use this devices and if you reuse it sometimes its asking for a format or it is not detecting to your computer..
So beware.. if you really still want to use it better to use it daily and make sure have anti virus or put  a password to your usb stick or ssd..
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I bought an expensive USB key a while ago to back up my wallet.dat
I can't see that losing data, maybe with a shitty $5 one though it could happen.

to be 99,99% sure : make another backup  Smiley
(M-Disc DVDs)
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I bought an expensive USB key a while ago to back up my wallet.dat
I can't see that losing data, maybe with a shitty $5 one though it could happen.
legendary
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You can buy 4GB sticks for around 6-8 bucks depending where and which country.
Buy a handful every year and make several encrypted back ups. Don't see any big problems if you do it like that.
Of course additional to that paper wallets are always recommended.Use good paper/ink and seal them well!
legendary
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Just a reminder

Its not safe to use USB sticks or SSDs for long term storage they lose data over time if they are not powered!

You can't just stick your private keys on a few USB sticks or SSD and box them up for 4 - 8 years you will lose all your coins.

For long term storage have at least 3 backups paper wallets or HDDs. You can even use something like DropBox But be sure to encrypt your wallet and change the name.

You can even hide your wallet inside a image file.
Thanks for explaining this, i am only using paper wallet myself for long storage with storing them in bank vault and few backups in my google drive with google account being 2fa.
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I suppose archival quality Blue Ray is an option - apparently Facebook uses it for data they think will need to be stored for long periods of time.

Archival blue ray discs are more expensive but are supposed to have vastly longer shelf life than regular ones

The only secure way is to store it on an encrypted RAID 0 array made up of 8 MFM HDs (NSA has back doors on the new IDE ones *DO NOT TRUST*).

RAID-0  provides no fault tolerance or redundancy and is generally only used to increase throughput.

Did you mean RAID-1?

No no! Make sure it's RAID 0, because otherwise NSA can just steal one of your old MFM drives and replace it with another, and you'll never know!
legendary
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i don't agree i can buy one new each year, they cost nothing, like $4 so there is no problem with them as a backup, also don't have just one but by plenty of them at different time so you are even more safe
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I suppose archival quality Blue Ray is an option - apparently Facebook uses it for data they think will need to be stored for long periods of time.

Archival blue ray discs are more expensive but are supposed to have vastly longer shelf life than regular ones

The only secure way is to store it on an encrypted RAID 0 array made up of 8 MFM HDs (NSA has back doors on the new IDE ones *DO NOT TRUST*).

RAID-0  provides no fault tolerance or redundancy and is generally only used to increase throughput.

Did you mean RAID-1?
legendary
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I never use any digital means to store private keys... they are simply to unreliable. I have 5 year old harddrives and memory sticks {unpowered} and I get read errors already. { These HD's are

Seagate drives used for storage, and not daily use } I do not trust memory sticks, due to the BadUSB exploits. I only use laminated paper wallets and a Trezor hardware wallet for smaller quantities

and daily use. I have several copies stored in different locations and kept in different banks. { Safe deposit boxes } 
newbie
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I suppose archival quality Blue Ray is an option - apparently Facebook uses it for data they think will need to be stored for long periods of time.

Archival blue ray discs are more expensive but are supposed to have vastly longer shelf life than regular ones

The only secure way is to store it on an encrypted RAID 0 array made up of 8 MFM HDs (NSA has back doors on the new IDE ones *DO NOT TRUST*).
legendary
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I only use paper wallets as I find them to be more secure than trusting a HDD or USD drive with your backups.
newbie
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I did not realize this. Thanks for letting us know. You may have just saved me a few dollars.
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