Topic: Do online gamblers think about their privacy and anonymity? (Read 636 times)
The main reason I choose to gamble on crypto-gambling sites is because of Privacy and Anonymity.
No need for bank deposits as a mode of deposit, therefore, no need for self-verification, ID's, personal documents, and many more.
I really care for my privacy so this is freedom. But I do understand that while crypto is evolving and becoming one of the popular payment methods out there, there might be an event in the future where the crpyot-gambling site will require KYC. Reputable sites are regulated and part of the regulation is being centralized. The fact that we need to accept in the future if we want bitcoin to become a medium of transaction.
And all of the services.
Will be asking you a KYC went your money or winning a big amount on their platform. Went you meet this situation they will ask you to do a KYC for a reason "Identity Confirmation" with a few reasons even the Casino offering an Anynoumous service. Care or not went you have a lot of money on the casino and need to past KYC before you can withdrawal the money. You will be still doing a KYC on the casino, why not everyone does not meet this problem cause they gamble with a small fund more proof you can find it on the "Scam Assumption".
Know your customer policies are slowly making their way on this market and it is completely understandable because as bitcoin becomes more powerful governments are going to want to regulate it even more, however I can understand that casinos could ask for more information about you if you have won an important prize on their platform however many shady casinos use this as an excuse to not pay you claiming that you did something wrong when you tried to verify your identity with them, and this is so common that people over time have developed an even bigger dislike for these procedures. Will be asking you a KYC went your money or winning a big amount on their platform. Went you meet this situation they will ask you to do a KYC for a reason "Identity Confirmation" with a few reasons even the Casino offering an Anynoumous service. Care or not went you have a lot of money on the casino and need to past KYC before you can withdrawal the money. You will be still doing a KYC on the casino, why not everyone does not meet this problem cause they gamble with a small fund more proof you can find it on the "Scam Assumption".
I am playing gambling on the site which doesn't use KYC, so I don't have to try to verify my account. I feel that it is related to my identity, and I don't want to send or give to the website which I don't think that is important for me.
Same here, I choose a gambling site that allows me to gamble without KYC.When I was new in crypto most of the casinos here does not require a KYC, so people get used to it and they would always choose a site that gives them full privacy and anonymity, and I think for a crypto gambling site to be profitable, they need to give the demand of their gamblers.
I guess that if we are playing gambling, that means, we want to have fun with the gambling games, and we don't have to do KYC, no matter how much we deposit or withdraw the money.
I think the amount do matters because if a gambling site is licensed, they are regulated by a certain authority and there are rules to be followed.
personally I am not fully aware of the TOS of the gambling site I'm playing as my style is just to gamble without reading the TOS since if my account will be lock, I can still make a new account again, meaning I don't risk a lot of money that I can't afford in case my account is lock for whatever reason.
Majority of gambling sites are anonymous and they will only ask for KYC for verification, that is one of the advantages of playing online your information is confidential but if a gambler is going to play with huge amount he should make sure play with online gambling site that has a good reputation.
That's the reason why it is much safer to gambling online because of the security that they can give to you, so as much as possible, during this quarantine, gambling online while there are a lot of people who are accessing online than physical casino. We all know that physical gambling casinos are prohibited due to the threat of the virus so never hesitate to go outside because it is not allowed. Gambling anonymously is really beneficial most especially that there are a lot of scammers and hackers online so it is much safer for you to play with that.
Especially when you are playing with huge amount of money, by that, you can spend money how much you want without worrying about your wallet and account. Plus, a gambling site with a high security will really increase its reputation to those customers who want to be safe in gambling casino.
I am playing gambling on the site which doesn't use KYC, so I don't have to try to verify my account. I feel that it is related to my identity, and I don't want to send or give to the website which I don't think that is important for me.
Same here, I choose a gambling site that allows me to gamble without KYC.When I was new in crypto most of the casinos here does not require a KYC, so people get used to it and they would always choose a site that gives them full privacy and anonymity, and I think for a crypto gambling site to be profitable, they need to give the demand of their gamblers.
I guess that if we are playing gambling, that means, we want to have fun with the gambling games, and we don't have to do KYC, no matter how much we deposit or withdraw the money.
I think the amount do matters because if a gambling site is licensed, they are regulated by a certain authority and there are rules to be followed.
personally I am not fully aware of the TOS of the gambling site I'm playing as my style is just to gamble without reading the TOS since if my account will be lock, I can still make a new account again, meaning I don't risk a lot of money that I can't afford in case my account is lock for whatever reason.
I am playing gambling on the site which doesn't use KYC, so I don't have to try to verify my account. I feel that it is related to my identity, and I don't want to send or give to the website which I don't think that is important for me. I guess that if we are playing gambling, that means, we want to have fun with the gambling games, and we don't have to do KYC, no matter how much we deposit or withdraw the money.
Personally, I do not want my identity to be known when gambling, and I usually try to use services that do not require authentication. As I am already gambling for pleasure, I usually gamble with very low amounts of money, and therefore I do not encounter authentication problems when withdrawing money in the event of a possible normal win. I also want my identity to be unknown when gambling because I do not trust such services too much and I do not want anyone to know that I have earned that money in case of a possible big win. I am sure, many people think like me and pay attention to such factors when choosing services for online gambling. Anyway, I want to ask you this question. Why should we both deposit money and provide our identity or passport information to these services where we usually play games for pleasure?
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That's why i use cryptocurrency gambling sites because it requires no personal data or KYC and any gambling site that requires it is a red flag for me.
That's why i use cryptocurrency gambling sites because it requires no personal data or KYC and any gambling site that requires it is a red flag for me.
You're correct, most of these cryptocurrency gambling platforms allow their gamblers to gamble without Privacy but in some of these cryptocurrency platforms, they demand for KYC before you as a gambler can gamble on their platform which to me is a good one; because of the laws of the land. Government have their rules and regulations guiding the gambling industries and whenever any platform flaut their laws they get license withdraw. Due to this, many cryptocurrency gambling platforms now allow KYC for their players whenever they intend to withdraw their winnings while some before the play.
Why would they do that if in the first place they can implement the system before the user won a large chunk of money. There is nothing wrong in implementing KYC though.
For some reason, there are some users who dont like gambling platforms that require players to complete KYC documents because they want privacy. However, they can avoid it if they really dont like it. If a site wants KYC from every user, then they have to say in the rules before someone win a bet and that is what I often hear. If they want KYC in a situation where someone wins the jackpot then I think this is just a different attempt from the site to verify the user and what the site is doing can be considered wrong. I use to bet MMA there in DirectBet back in the days. We can bet with just our BTC address and we are all good to go to receive the winnings when we win. We don't even need to register. These are the kind of games that use to exist in bitcoin, now they are gone including the secondstrade where we can play binaryoptions with just btc wallet. No registration required.
There's still a few gambling sites that have the on chain gambling method and here's a sportsbook similar to Directbet but most gamblers stick to off chain gambling sites nowadays since you can save a lot of transaction fee and accepting transactions with no confirmations can cause more issues. And even onehash that have similar features offers an off chain alternative as fees can sometimes be expensive if you have a small bankroll.That's one of the drawback though. Transaction cost a lot even when just betting alone. There will be no cost when its onchain and that no coins go to waste. This is why some platforms are almost trying to target gambling projects like EOS that no fees for its transaction.
Maybe setting LN channel for dbet.io users will work.
it's better if you have set up a poll so we'll find out the percentage from those who will participate
why do we need a poll for? It's just a list of casinos that do not require verification not a contest on which is the best casino.Most crypto-casinos don't ask for verification at least when you make small deposits/withdrawals. But if you read their ToS you will find that they reserve the right to do it.
I didn't go through all of websites on the list but here is what I found on few of them:
Quote from: https://stake.com/?modal=terms
6. Know your Customer (“KYC”)
Stake reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. Stake reserves the right to restrict service and payment until identity is sufficiently determined.
Stake reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. Stake reserves the right to restrict service and payment until identity is sufficiently determined.
Quote from: https://nitrogensports.eu/n/terms
Privacy Policy
Before or at the time of collecting personal information, we will identify the purposes for which information is being collected. We will collect and use of personal information solely with the objective of fulfilling those purposes specified by us and for other compatible purposes, unless we obtain the consent of the individual concerned or as required by law.
Before or at the time of collecting personal information, we will identify the purposes for which information is being collected. We will collect and use of personal information solely with the objective of fulfilling those purposes specified by us and for other compatible purposes, unless we obtain the consent of the individual concerned or as required by law.
Quote from: https://games.bitcoin.com/privacy
Types of Data Collected:
Personal Data While using our Service, we may ask you to provide us with certain personally identifiable information that can be used to contact or identify you ("Personal Data"). Personally identifiable information may include, but is not limited to:
Email address
First name and last name
Phone number
Address, State, Province, ZIP/Postal code, City
Cookies and Usage Data
Personal Data While using our Service, we may ask you to provide us with certain personally identifiable information that can be used to contact or identify you ("Personal Data"). Personally identifiable information may include, but is not limited to:
Email address
First name and last name
Phone number
Address, State, Province, ZIP/Postal code, City
Cookies and Usage Data
Quote from: https://rocket.run/
6. KYC (Know Your Customer)
Alford N.V. reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. Alford N.V. has the right to restrict service and payment until identity is sufficiently clarified.
Alford N.V. reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. Alford N.V. has the right to restrict service and payment until identity is sufficiently clarified.
This is just like what Darkdays said. Thank you for providing examples. I added a note in my post to show these examples.
I also discussed it in my comment here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54489271 but no one seems to notice or maybe they just don't care?
The problem here in Gambling Online is there are sites that allows you to play without asking any KYC while you are not winning big amount,but once you hit the jackpot or something near that prize?they will suddenly ask for your KYC and then the problem will start.
Yes, I also noticed the lack of KYC from gambling website. However, can I know what are those sites in which people are being force to do KYC when they won a large amount of money? Although, I still didn't experience winning huge amount of money in a gambling site, still it would be better for newbies to which of them are operating this kind of stuff.Why would they do that if in the first place they can implement the system before the user won a large chunk of money. There is nothing wrong in implementing KYC though.
it's better if you have set up a poll so we'll find out the percentage from those who will participate
why do we need a poll for? It's just a list of casinos that do not require verification not a contest on which is the best casino.Most crypto-casinos don't ask for verification at least when you make small deposits/withdrawals. But if you read their ToS you will find that they reserve the right to do it.
I didn't go through all of websites on the list but here is what I found on few of them:
Quote from: https://stake.com/?modal=terms
6. Know your Customer (“KYC”)
Stake reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. Stake reserves the right to restrict service and payment until identity is sufficiently determined.
Stake reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. Stake reserves the right to restrict service and payment until identity is sufficiently determined.
Quote from: https://nitrogensports.eu/n/terms
Privacy Policy
Before or at the time of collecting personal information, we will identify the purposes for which information is being collected. We will collect and use of personal information solely with the objective of fulfilling those purposes specified by us and for other compatible purposes, unless we obtain the consent of the individual concerned or as required by law.
Before or at the time of collecting personal information, we will identify the purposes for which information is being collected. We will collect and use of personal information solely with the objective of fulfilling those purposes specified by us and for other compatible purposes, unless we obtain the consent of the individual concerned or as required by law.
Quote from: https://games.bitcoin.com/privacy
Types of Data Collected:
Personal Data While using our Service, we may ask you to provide us with certain personally identifiable information that can be used to contact or identify you ("Personal Data"). Personally identifiable information may include, but is not limited to:
Email address
First name and last name
Phone number
Address, State, Province, ZIP/Postal code, City
Cookies and Usage Data
Personal Data While using our Service, we may ask you to provide us with certain personally identifiable information that can be used to contact or identify you ("Personal Data"). Personally identifiable information may include, but is not limited to:
Email address
First name and last name
Phone number
Address, State, Province, ZIP/Postal code, City
Cookies and Usage Data
Quote from: https://rocket.run/
6. KYC (Know Your Customer)
Alford N.V. reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. Alford N.V. has the right to restrict service and payment until identity is sufficiently clarified.
Alford N.V. reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. Alford N.V. has the right to restrict service and payment until identity is sufficiently clarified.
Yes for me anonymity is very important where especially in my country online gambling is banned and you could go to tail if you're found out gambling online.
That's why i use cryptocurrency gambling sites because it requires no personal data or KYC and any gambling site that requires it is a red flag for me.
That's why i use cryptocurrency gambling sites because it requires no personal data or KYC and any gambling site that requires it is a red flag for me.
Privacy is very important for most of us who are playing gambling and there are many reasons for this. You must have noticed that if anyone won a big amount they never come in front of us and tell us that they won a big amount because they do not want to disclose this information to anyone. We never know who won the jackpots and lotteries and all this stuff is anonymous.
There are others too. For example Stake and 777coins both this site's take privacy and anonymity seriously. I have been plahing on both of them and they have never asked for KYC, except email verification which is kind of mandatory on every crypto gambling website.
In 777 coin, you have an option not to go with email verification and you will just keep your account that's made when you visited the casino.You don't need to register when you visit the platform because, there's an automated account for everyone but you can go in full account if you want to keep the account that's automatically made for you.
I use to bet MMA there in DirectBet back in the days. We can bet with just our BTC address and we are all good to go to receive the winnings when we win. We don't even need to register. These are the kind of games that use to exist in bitcoin, now they are gone including the secondstrade where we can play binaryoptions with just btc wallet. No registration required.
There's still a few gambling sites that have the on chain gambling method and here's a sportsbook similar to Directbet but most gamblers stick to off chain gambling sites nowadays since you can save a lot of transaction fee and accepting transactions with no confirmations can cause more issues. And even onehash that have similar features offers an off chain alternative as fees can sometimes be expensive if you have a small bankroll. 
I would like to ask the Bitcointalk gambling community if how many of you here play on KYC less online casinos?
If you don't know which of them don't or rarely request verification, I searched over the internet for a list and here's what I gathered
You have already a very long list and I'm sure more will be added as one of their promoters or players will comment glad that you already have blackjack.fun there.
For me sites must be clear about their policy before letting players bet so in case there are issues,at least it can easily answered or players will avoid playing on their sites.
I would like to ask the Bitcointalk gambling community if how many of you here play on KYC less online casinos?
If you don't know which of them don't or rarely request verification, I searched over the internet for a list and here's what I gathered
You have already a very long list and I'm sure more will be added as one of their promoters or players will comment glad that you already have blackjack.fun there.
I think almost all crypto gambling still prioritizes the privacy of its users without having to involve KYC for registration and withdrawal etc. That way, I want to add https://yolodice.com/ as one of the crypto gambling sites that think about or care about the privacy of its users.
There are others too. For example Stake and 777coins both this site's take privacy and anonymity seriously. I have been plahing on both of them and they have never asked for KYC, except email verification which is kind of mandatory on every crypto gambling website.
Yes for me anonymity is very important where especially in my country online gambling is banned and you could go to tail if you're found out gambling online.
That's why i use cryptocurrency gambling sites because it requires no personal data or KYC and any gambling site that requires it is a red flag for me.
That's why i use cryptocurrency gambling sites because it requires no personal data or KYC and any gambling site that requires it is a red flag for me.
I think I can agree with this. Because with online crypto gambling, you can hide your gambling activities and also by using your VPN, you don't need to worry if someone is spying your online activities. I think most online gamblers are after for privacy and anonymity. And if you are a small timer, a lot of websites don't require KYC and you can enjoy the games without worrying that you need to submit your docs. Aside from benefiting all the other conveniences that online gambling is offering to a player.
You would only use VPN if your country does restrict online gambling activity yet ISP would able to check out your browsing activity thats why if you do need to save up your ass from trouble then you would really need this kind of thing where you can masked out your activity towards gambling without being detected by your government but if not then you can directly play as you like and this doesnt particularly avoiding the government mean but also
in other peoples eyes as well.You can play anonymously and not being known online and thats the beauty when you do gamble here on crypto space.
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