Topic: Do online gamblers think about their privacy and anonymity? - page 5. (Read 636 times)
Majority of gambling sites are anonymous and they will only ask for KYC for verification, that is one of the advantages of playing online your information is confidential but if a gambler is going to play with huge amount he should make sure play with online gambling site that has a good reputation.
I'd rather have KYC in terms of online gambling tbh. Not that I don't mind it or anything, but those sites with KYC can prove to sometimes actually be just a simple scam. It hurts not only my funds but also the time I've spent playing there and hence, I'd rather stick to one with KYC. Ofc, as long as the KYC procedures don't go overboard a certain line, I'm fine with it. Besides, I'm pretty sure casinos ask for KYC procedures just to pretty much ask for the age of the recipient so that they can assure that those playing in their site is of legal age.
most of them yes, though there are still quite a number who don't care.
Besides, when winning a jackpot will surely give you a hassle especially if some people started to question you and your money (that goes for gamblers who doesn't care about their privacy)
Just say gambling though. I don't honestly see any hassle with that, and if they look bad at you, so be it. I doubt you need to keep up pretense against someone who judges you just because you gamble. It's like judging people you see outside just because they wear tattoos, smoke, and the like. Besides, when winning a jackpot will surely give you a hassle especially if some people started to question you and your money (that goes for gamblers who doesn't care about their privacy)
I would like to ask the Bitcointalk gambling community if how many of you here play on KYC less online casinos?
I do but as Welsh pointed out there's no harm if you are requested for a KYC unless you are dealing with a not reputed or unlicensed gambling sites, that totally harm your privacy if they gone out of thin air and there's a data leak happen or identity selling somewhere on the darknet.I'd still prefer sites that doesn't request a KYC, just always being careful not to stack huge amount of balances over them.
Privacy is important, however its extremely difficult to retain privacy in every aspect, and in almost all instances a compromise has to be made. I definitely am not a fan of rigorous KYC procedures which are generally not needed in most cases, but I'd actually prefer to be using a licensed gambling site, with KYC in place (as that's usually a requirement for licensed gambling sites) because of the guarantees that are usually put in place, and having someone accountable if anything were to go wrong.
Having said that, most countries are operating in these countries that don't require licensing. However, the point is KYC doesn't always mean its bad. There's perfectly legitimate reasons why KYC is needed. Although, I do disagree how in depth some KYC is, but in some countries like the UK its absolutely necessary to be able to run any legitimate gambling business.
Returning to the original point; I don't think its a bad PR move to request KYC, and license your gambling business. I actually, would prefer myself to be using a licensed gambling business because they at least have to abide by rules of the gambling commission, and sometimes have to guarantee certain if something goes wrong. Unlicensed sites have no guarantees, and can just shut up without having anyone accountable.
Obviously requesting KYC from a user is extremely bad PR, so you can understand why these platforms would be hesitant to do it.
I'd disagree. Those that are not requesting KYC are sometimes breaking the law, and therefore are not licensed to be operating unless they operate in a country which does not require licensing. Even then though, the majority of countries which don't require licensing can't provide a service to countries which require a gambling site to be licensed. Having said that, most countries are operating in these countries that don't require licensing. However, the point is KYC doesn't always mean its bad. There's perfectly legitimate reasons why KYC is needed. Although, I do disagree how in depth some KYC is, but in some countries like the UK its absolutely necessary to be able to run any legitimate gambling business.
Returning to the original point; I don't think its a bad PR move to request KYC, and license your gambling business. I actually, would prefer myself to be using a licensed gambling business because they at least have to abide by rules of the gambling commission, and sometimes have to guarantee certain if something goes wrong. Unlicensed sites have no guarantees, and can just shut up without having anyone accountable.
There are always clues to a person's identity: IP address, email / phone verification even the type of browser and mobile phone device being used (VPN's aside). While the block-chain itself holds a record of each and every movement of funds across the network, the Lightning Network offers a degree of privacy as transactions are purportedly encrypted and are daisy-chained between two neighbouring nodes, not the entire network. Some Casinos even offer LN nodes/channels for cheaper withdrawals.
If you look at the terms and conditions of most gambling sites (even crypto ones), you will find that almost all will have a clause that allows them to request identity verification from any user.
Normally they will only do this under very particular circumstances though, e.g. if they're suspected of money laundering or manipulating the system.
Obviously requesting KYC from a user is extremely bad PR, so you can understand why these platforms would be hesitant to do it.
That said, there are some benefits to the practice, and most casinos will likely implement some relaxed KYC procedures eventually due to increasing pressure from the financial authorities.
Normally they will only do this under very particular circumstances though, e.g. if they're suspected of money laundering or manipulating the system.
Obviously requesting KYC from a user is extremely bad PR, so you can understand why these platforms would be hesitant to do it.
That said, there are some benefits to the practice, and most casinos will likely implement some relaxed KYC procedures eventually due to increasing pressure from the financial authorities.
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Do online gamblers think about their privacy and anonymity?
Besides, when winning a jackpot will surely give you a hassle especially if some people started to question you and your money (that goes for gamblers who doesn't care about their privacy)
AFAIK
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rocket.run
blackjack.fun
I would like to ask the Bitcointalk gambling community if how many of you here play on KYC less online casinos?
Please add more if I missed your favorite anonymous online gambling platform
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primedice.com
sportsbet.io
If there is another group of bitcoin users who value their privacy, I was thinking it has to be the online gamblers. If you love gambling and you want to remain anonymous, online casinos that supports Bitcoin has to be the perfect platform. This is just a guess of mine and I don't know if it's 100% true. The same with crypto exchanges, there might also users who doesn't mind submitting personal information to bypass deposit and withdrawal restrictions.
I would like to ask the Bitcointalk gambling community if how many of you here play on KYC less online casinos?
If you don't know which of them don't or rarely request verification, I searched over the internet for a list and here's what I gathered
I was planning to make a comprehensive list but I am aware there are more Bitcoin online casinos not in here. Please add more if I missed your favorite anonymous online gambling platform. I will try to improve the list if there are platforms that are like exchanges who do not require KYC if they withdraw or deposit a certain amount of Bitcoin.
Additional Note:
Please read the Terms and Conditions of each bitcoin online gambling websites before using them. Most of them, including the platforms listed above, would allow you to create an anonymous account then let you deposit, play and withdraw but there's a clause somewhere in their TOCs that they can require you to pass verification at anytime they deem necessary. Examples are posted here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54489271
Links for reference:
- https://btcplaymania.com/anonymous-bitcoin-casinos
- https://casino.guru/top-online-casinos/anonymous-casinos
I would like to ask the Bitcointalk gambling community if how many of you here play on KYC less online casinos?
If you don't know which of them don't or rarely request verification, I searched over the internet for a list and here's what I gathered
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- https://stake.com/
- https://nitrogensports.eu/
- https://www.onehash.com/
- https://games.bitcoin.com/home
- https://www.betcoin.ag/
- https://satoshidice.com/
- https://bitvest.io/
- https://bitcasino.io
- https://www.mbitcasino.com/
- https://crypto.games/
- https://fortunejack.com/
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- https://primedice.com
- https://sportsbet.io
- https://rocket.run
- https://blackjack.fun
- https://www.bitsler.com/
- https://bustadice.com/
- https://bustabit.com/
- https://bitdice.me/
- https://cyberdice.net/
- https://www.cloudbet.com/en/
- https://fairlay.com/
- https://www.playbetr.com/
- https://windice.io/
- https://777coin.com/
Additional Note:
Please read the Terms and Conditions of each bitcoin online gambling websites before using them. Most of them, including the platforms listed above, would allow you to create an anonymous account then let you deposit, play and withdraw but there's a clause somewhere in their TOCs that they can require you to pass verification at anytime they deem necessary. Examples are posted here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54489271
Links for reference:
- https://btcplaymania.com/anonymous-bitcoin-casinos
- https://casino.guru/top-online-casinos/anonymous-casinos
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