Do referees get bribed to cheat in a match?

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Quote from: Coin_trader on August 26, 2024, 05:34:28 AM

Typically, referee is very hard to bribe since they are working on different group which means there’s someone monitoring their decision in the game too that will cause to lose their job if they do such thing.

Well, you are right. I have read some other comments here and it's more convincing now to believe that it's very difficult and rare to bribe a referee, especially referee of top leagues but seems there's a better chance to do that with small team. I know I have not read any news that such incident has happened but I was just not satisfied with the referee's judgment for every move made by the winning team. Seem he was against there victory. Maybe I was wrong, the referee was doing his job.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on August 26, 2024, 05:27:26 AM

I have not read before that a referee is bribed. Common ones that I know are the football club manager and football players.

Same here, most referees behave out of their own mind and in the open world it looks like the referee is been paid to behave in such way, let's not forget that been a referee doesn't restrict them from having a favourite football club, so if the referee is on work that day and its his between his favourite football club and other team he could want to take it easy with his favourite football club more, few referees just take this too far that it becomes obvious to the public.

When a referee doing something that is not right, public will say that referee getting bribe from the team to help the team. Maybe that is right as we don't know what is happen with the referee and the team.
It needs more investigation to search more evidence to find out if referee getting bribe or not. The sport committee must use their source to investigate and find that information and if that is right, the sport committee can give punishment to that referees.
But yes, we already saw some examples of the referee that has been bribed by the team especially in the local competition or tournament. It needs a strict rule to control that referees so they can work with right and will not want to get bribe by any team.

Obviously we can see the way how they officiate the game since fans would notice that there's something wrong with their decision and make it looks like they are in favor with other team. Lots of incident like this happen. But its hard to prove and management just let those incident go away.

Although there are some recorded incident that referee has been penalized due to this situation, we rarely see this incident happen since its like they are also protecting those officials. The only thing we could do in this matter is to watch how the game flow and if we know that the official is questionable or controversial then I guess its better not to think about placing our bets since its risky to participate knowing that their manipulation antics might happen in that game.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 26, 2024, 05:22:07 AM

So guys, I wanted to get your opinion again in this thread. The thread is concerned with only members that are really experienced in sports events and are mostly lovers of football.

Actually, the question I asked in my title has nothing to do with any matches that I have watched recently, but it's related to some previous matches that I have watched for a very long time.

So, have you guys watched a match where the referee is blowing a whistle to issue a red or yellow card at the wrong time? Even if what happened is not really something that requires a red or yellow card, but the referee just blows the whistle and gives a red or yellow card according to the situation he feels deserves it? In some of the previous matches I watched, I felt the referee was just unnecessarily issuing red and yellow cards repeatedly to the best-forming team, and I believe he was doing it to make the team lose the match.

What do you guys have to say about this? Do you think that referees can be bribed so they can issue a red card unnecessarily to the best-forming team to to make the team lose?

In fact, even those who have been watching their favorite sport for a long time and think that they know everything about it are wrong, because those who have been refereeing games for about 20 years know such cunning tricks that you and I may not even guess about. A red or yellow card shown at an unfortunate time is only part of this. Of course, a referee can influence a match with various small tricks that no one will even suspect him of, and at this time his friend will place a bet. But this does not guarantee victory for them, but only slightly increases the chances of winning. And if you do this constantly, they are probably playing for a profit, but of course this is not fair and it is very difficult to expose them, especially with small stakes.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on August 26, 2024, 05:27:26 AM

I have not read before that a referee is bribed. Common ones that I know are the football club manager and football players.

Same here, most referees behave out of their own mind and in the open world it looks like the referee is been paid to behave in such way, let's not forget that been a referee doesn't restrict them from having a favourite football club, so if the referee is on work that day and its his between his favourite football club and other team he could want to take it easy with his favourite football club more, few referees just take this too far that it becomes obvious to the public.

When a referee doing something that is not right, public will say that referee getting bribe from the team to help the team. Maybe that is right as we don't know what is happen with the referee and the team.
It needs more investigation to search more evidence to find out if referee getting bribe or not. The sport committee must use their source to investigate and find that information and if that is right, the sport committee can give punishment to that referees.
But yes, we already saw some examples of the referee that has been bribed by the team especially in the local competition or tournament. It needs a strict rule to control that referees so they can work with right and will not want to get bribe by any team.

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That's why if there are people who complaint about the results, it's obvious that they're fan of the lose teams. Many sports are already professional along with technology improvement, anyone including the referees are trained and it's not easy for them able to become a referees in top match.

Saying x referees got bribed is just showing your real characters who can't accept losses.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 26, 2024, 05:22:07 AM

So guys, I wanted to get your opinion again in this thread. The thread is concerned with only members that are really experienced in sports events and are mostly lovers of football.

What do you guys have to say about this? Do you think that referees can be bribed so they can issue a red card unnecessarily to the best-forming team to to make the team lose?

Most times this is how one thinks when your favorite team are playing very well and the referee tend to give red card to the players when playing dur to one misconduct or the other that usually it's one tiny mistakes and then you be like what is he doing? Is he trying to let us lose this match,I think he has been bribed.

Wow I do have this thought mostly times but I know that it's very hard to bribe a referee to work to your favour,cause it's just like they are international bodies that are trained to handle and coordinate how the matches go and they try to be fair in their dealings with every team they come across,and any misconduct of sorts will be handled appropriately.
So trying to bribe such persons won't really have much effects.

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Of course the referee may have his own interests in this or that match, but I tend to believe that most referees still value their reputation and try to perform their duties fairly. All of us have repeatedly observed how on the field were cases that the referee made a mistake, but it seems to me that the blame for this is largely a human factor rather than bias towards one team or another. If there are bribed referees, they are not so many, because if it turns out that the referee was involved in a contract match, his career will be over.

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I don't think no human is immune to bribery, so you'll always find one or two who got bribed and make terrible calls on a match. Whether every referee is bribed is a different story though. I think you can also specify which matches or sports competition you're talking about because it will affect how much the corruption spread out. I find it hard to believe that an international competition is as corrupt as my national third-tier football league for example. Accusing someone without any proof or baseless assumption is out of the question though.

I don't think things will change unless they show more of their decision making like what happened after the Liverpool vs Spurs match. On the other hand, I can see a referee association argue that they also need protection from abuse since fans can behave like animals. Hard to know if this is planned or not, considering how FIFA or other association seemed to focuses more on getting more money recently.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 26, 2024, 05:22:07 AM

So guys, I wanted to get your opinion again in this thread. The thread is concerned with only members that are really experienced in sports events and are mostly lovers of football.

Actually, the question I asked in my title has nothing to do with any matches that I have watched recently, but it's related to some previous matches that I have watched for a very long time.

So, have you guys watched a match where the referee is blowing a whistle to issue a red or yellow card at the wrong time? Even if what happened is not really something that requires a red or yellow card, but the referee just blows the whistle and gives a red or yellow card according to the situation he feels deserves it? In some of the previous matches I watched, I felt the referee was just unnecessarily issuing red and yellow cards repeatedly to the best-forming team, and I believe he was doing it to make the team lose the match.

What do you guys have to say about this? Do you think that referees can be bribed so they can issue a red card unnecessarily to the best-forming team to to make the team lose?

If you are asking generally in football, I think things like this does happen but they are not common in advanced leagues or developed countries. There are some local leagues/tournaments especially in underdeveloped countries where there has been incidents of referees being compromised. And you can see it clearly in the operation of the referee during the match. Football matches are being played almost everyday around the world, even in remote villages and towns. You will easily see these things happening in some parts Africa and Asia. Since the question is generally about football matches so I won't just limit it to football matches that are been played on international or professional level. That's why I narrowed it down to grassroots football. Football matches are not just the ones we watch on TV. Corrupt practices are in everywhere provided that humans are involved. If the majority are not doing it, that doesn't mean that the system is totally free of corruption, there will always be a few that will be engaged in such acts. We can only know about it when it comes out in the Media.

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Yeah, it might just be in some lower leagues that we have heard perhaps a referee to home cook a rematch for money. But for some league it's very hard to bribe them because they know what's on the line for them.

Although they can go and bet secretly on the games and they can control the outcome, just like a NBA referee.

From the archives: How former ref Tim Donaghy conspired to fix NBA games

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 26, 2024, 05:22:07 AM

So guys, I wanted to get your opinion again in this thread. The thread is concerned with only members that are really experienced in sports events and are mostly lovers of football.

Actually, the question I asked in my title has nothing to do with any matches that I have watched recently, but it's related to some previous matches that I have watched for a very long time.

So, have you guys watched a match where the referee is blowing a whistle to issue a red or yellow card at the wrong time? Even if what happened is not really something that requires a red or yellow card, but the referee just blows the whistle and gives a red or yellow card according to the situation he feels deserves it? In some of the previous matches I watched, I felt the referee was just unnecessarily issuing red and yellow cards repeatedly to the best-forming team, and I believe he was doing it to make the team lose the match.

What do you guys have to say about this? Do you think that referees can be bribed so they can issue a red card unnecessarily to the best-forming team to to make the team lose?

Yea, referee can be bribe, because this has happened in the past and it's called match fixing in today's football, but according to what you said concerning when most referee issuing unnecessary red card and yellow card even when it's not deserving, what I know am quite sure about that is that their are some referees that had personal hatred for a particular team, and most times they are a fan of one of the team they are officiating, so in that regard, they will definitely favours one side over the other, and sometimes they will be issuing undeserving card to the team they hate or the team they are not supporting just for the other side to have the upper hands.

Ok let's take a look at Anthony Taylors record and Chelsea football club, I can confidently tells you that, that referee have personal hatred for Chelsea, any of Chelsea match he officiated, he always undo Chelsea in one way or the other, just look at Chelsea vs Manchester city in the opening game of the season, he refused to award a clear penalty and a hand ball to Chelsea even when he used the var, so my brother according to your question, yes it's very much possible.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on August 26, 2024, 05:27:26 AM

I have not read before that a referee is bribed. Common ones that I know are the football club manager and football players.

Same here, most referees behave out of their own mind and in the open world it looks like the referee is been paid to behave in such way, let's not forget that been a referee doesn't restrict them from having a favourite football club, so if the referee is on work that day and its his between his favourite football club and other team he could want to take it easy with his favourite football club more, few referees just take this too far that it becomes obvious to the public.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 26, 2024, 05:22:07 AM

So guys, I wanted to get your opinion again in this thread. The thread is concerned with only members that are really experienced in sports events and are mostly lovers of football.

Actually, the question I asked in my title has nothing to do with any matches that I have watched recently, but it's related to some previous matches that I have watched for a very long time.

So, have you guys watched a match where the referee is blowing a whistle to issue a red or yellow card at the wrong time? Even if what happened is not really something that requires a red or yellow card, but the referee just blows the whistle and gives a red or yellow card according to the situation he feels deserves it? In some of the previous matches I watched, I felt the referee was just unnecessarily issuing red and yellow cards repeatedly to the best-forming team, and I believe he was doing it to make the team lose the match.

What do you guys have to say about this? Do you think that referees can be bribed so they can issue a red card unnecessarily to the best-forming team to to make the team lose?

I'm not entirely sure about it but there's possibility that it happens because there are somethings that goes on in some matches that aren't really fair, some referees overlook some foul play from a particular team which isn't supposed to be so. I always feel when a match duration is taking longer than it's supposed to the referee has been bribed, how else would you explain those outrageous extra time that lasts more than 20 minutes if one of the teams is already ahead of the other in terms of goals, it's a manipulation tactic to delay the game, that's my opinion about it if you ask me

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Quote from: virasog on August 26, 2024, 12:43:43 PM

Do you have any references to past matches where you find such incidents and later they were highlighted by the media? If you can share such incidents it will give us more insights about such scenarios as right now most of the people here believe that referee are honest and it is not possible to bribe them.

How many examples have not already been given here? Look at the biggest scandal ever I mentioned:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calciopoli_trials#Criminal_trials
it was when Juventus was stripped of its title because of that, no way someone could deny things don't happen in bigger leagues and this was not one referee alone, it was 4 clubs and a dozen referees that were influencing matches, and not just that, they even fixed the delegations of referees to specific matches to try to change the outcome.

Fixing matches or favoring a team happens everywhere and sometimes both the reasons and the bribe are just ridiculous
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Sabbagh

Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on August 26, 2024, 07:20:25 AM

Referees are lonely people. If one team buys a referee, other teams can show aggressive behavior against that referee. I don't think referees can afford that. It's too risky for them.

What are they going to do, beat him and risk being thrown off the league for an entire season?

And again guys, there have been so many examples already in this topic!
Referees do get bribed, this has happened in the past, it happens now and it will happen in the future, big league or little leagues, football or basketball or baseball, it will!

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 26, 2024, 05:22:07 AM

What do you guys have to say about this? Do you think that referees can be bribed so they can issue a red card unnecessarily to the best-forming team to to make the team lose?

Unfair red/yellow cards are not indications of whether the referee got bribed. I know it's kinda unfair, but it needs more than an unfair red card to prove if the referee was bribed.

I agree. Sometimes, a referee can be just like a bull with those Grin

It depends on the person, really.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 26, 2024, 05:22:07 AM

So, have you guys watched a match where the referee is blowing a whistle to issue a red or yellow card at the wrong time? Even if what happened is not really something that requires a red or yellow card, but the referee just blows the whistle and gives a red or yellow card according to the situation he feels deserves it? In some of the previous matches I watched, I felt the referee was just unnecessarily issuing red and yellow cards repeatedly to the best-forming team, and I believe he was doing it to make the team lose the match.

I remember there were some moments when an unfair red card was given to the players. It's when the referee sent off Kieran Gibbs instead of Chamberlain. And Chamberlain complained to the ref if it was him, not Gibbs. But the ref stuck to his decision and gave Gibbs a red card.
Also, David Luiz got a red card vs Wolves. That really angered me. He made no serious contact with the attacker, but the referee gave him an unnecessary red card.

Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 26, 2024, 05:22:07 AM

What do you guys have to say about this? Do you think that referees can be bribed so they can issue a red card unnecessarily to the best-forming team to to make the team lose?

Unfair red/yellow cards are not indications of whether the referee got bribed. I know it's kinda unfair, but it needs more than an unfair red card to prove if the referee was bribed.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 26, 2024, 05:22:07 AM

So, have you guys watched a match where the referee is blowing a whistle to issue a red or yellow card at the wrong time? Even if what happened is not really something that requires a red or yellow card, but the referee just blows the whistle and gives a red or yellow card according to the situation he feels deserves it? In some of the previous matches I watched, I felt the referee was just unnecessarily issuing red and yellow cards repeatedly to the best-forming team, and I believe he was doing it to make the team lose the match.

Interesting topic.
I am an Argentine soccer fan and the most common allegation against team Argentina is, that they bribed the referees in the World Cup match and they got penalties. But those allegations came from our local Brazil supporters and not from any media or something. Actually, this is the way they want to win the debate about which one is the better team in the last decade.

Get back to your question. I am not sure if that may ever happen in international matches or Club matches. But I think it's very much possible to happen in local soccer matches where a team may bribe the referees. It's a common thing in local soccer tournaments. But sometimes referees get assaulted as well Grin

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A referee can be incentivised towards making biased judgements favouring one team/player over another. But bad refereeing decisions are not always influenced by bribery. Some referees are simply incompetent. They are scared of making harsh calls against the home team. I used to think it only happens in the local league in my country but it seems that happens everywhere in the world. Take for example what this former EPL referee said about Manchester United:
Mark Clattenburg admits Man Utd aura got them favourable calls under Sir Alex Ferguson

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 26, 2024, 05:22:07 AM

What do you guys have to say about this? Do you think that referees can be bribed so they can issue a red card unnecessarily to the best-forming team to to make the team lose?

I don't know which match you are referring to. Whether it is a top European league match or a match in your local league?
You can judge for yourself how the situation is on the field. Does it make sense to receive a card or not? Such incidents usually occur in an incident of violation that is committed and it is to disguise the bias of the referee. But if there is no violation the referee punishes the player with a yellow card or a red card. Of course, the referee is being bribed.

The practice of referee cheating is very common in local leagues and may not be broadcast live by the media. Especially in unofficial competitions. We can see the annulment of goals or giving penalty kicks to certain teams. But in the top European leagues, the career of a referee is supervised by an institution. They will not do something very bad and clearly visible. Moreover, with the help of current technology, it should minimize errors in making decisions by the referee. Although the referee's bias towards a particular team is still very possible.

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In my personal opinion based on what has happened and indeed has been widely discussed by many people among football lovers when there were certain competitions, it did show some truth about the problem of referees being bribed to help one team gain an advantage.
Some things that often happen are about the referee decision and also how the person in charge of Var works, these two things often become the most dominant incidents of unfair and completely non-transparent decisions.
However, for some important matches in big competition, maybe something like this can be avoided considering that the football federation will certainly take firm stance if the referee makes such mistake, dismissal and blocking the use of the services of referees who accept bribes will definitely be carried out.
Consequence can make referees more careful and not try to make mistakes by accepting bribes, but for various small leagues, of course we will see many referees who are suspected of accepting bribes to win particular team.

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