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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 26, 2024, 05:22:07 AM

So guys, I wanted to get your opinion again in this thread. The thread is concerned with only members that are really experienced in sports events and are mostly lovers of football.

Actually, the question I asked in my title has nothing to do with any matches that I have watched recently, but it's related to some previous matches that I have watched for a very long time.

So, have you guys watched a match where the referee is blowing a whistle to issue a red or yellow card at the wrong time? Even if what happened is not really something that requires a red or yellow card, but the referee just blows the whistle and gives a red or yellow card according to the situation he feels deserves it? In some of the previous matches I watched, I felt the referee was just unnecessarily issuing red and yellow cards repeatedly to the best-forming team, and I believe he was doing it to make the team lose the match.

What do you guys have to say about this? Do you think that referees can be bribed so they can issue a red card unnecessarily to the best-forming team to to make the team lose?

Although people saying that its not possible or its hard to bribe those referees there are still series of events that those officials has been involve with match fixing or other officiating anomalies.

Just try to research this information's online and there lots of result that show that this thing is really possible to happen.

But in current modern era where lots of camera is facing the game and people are really meticulous on details on each result I guess this bribing incident is hard to happen in big leagues. Usually this one will only happen in minor or small leagues.

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Quote from: Yucky on August 26, 2024, 05:40:43 AM

Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 26, 2024, 05:22:07 AM

What do you guys have to say about this? Do you think that referees can be bribed so they can issue a red card unnecessarily to the best-forming team to to make the team lose?

Referees don't work independent of other bodies to guarantee that they could be easily bribed. The introduction of the video assistant referee has made it even more deficult for a referee to be biased in officiating a match talk less of collecting bribes.

Any system can be manipulated And let me put it this way even when VR has cross-checked a scene to know what to be the verdict, the referee has the final say in the field to choose if it is true or false. The thing is that i dont think any professional referee will be willing to take any bribe because he is putting his career and profession at stake. The amount of the bribe cannot be compared to the total amount and reputation he will have if he refuses the bribe. Although the referee sometimes makes careless mistakes by making a wrong verdict, which my considered to be bribed by sport fans but deep down the organization knows it is a mistake and the referee will be giving a penalty for that action.

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Quote from: mirakal on August 26, 2024, 06:39:48 AM

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Quote from: Obim34 on August 26, 2024, 05:37:48 AM

Being asked if referees takes bribe, my answer would be Yes and sometimes they decide based on personal likeness or dislike for a club.

Have you heard of a referee that celebrated a team and was banned before? This is one:

A Dutch referee has been banned for life for celebrating a title win with a team
Don't you know that a match can be canceled if something like happened and known?
Everything a referee is doing is obvious and he or she will not want to lose his or her reputation. Bribing a referee will be somehow be useless.

True. Each action or decision made by the referee is also been observed and monitored by some other referees or the higher organization above so if he shows a non valid action like giving a red or yellow card in a certain team when it’s not supposed to, he will automatically put into an investigation and might ruin his credibility, or worst lost his job for a lifetime. That’s why bribing a referee is not that easy, otherwise the party that’s going to bribe will be disclose and will eventually put into shame.

In today's scenario, it would be hard to issue such card to unnecessary situations because most games are being recorded and live streamed. So it is the reputation of the referee himself which is at stake if he will do such act. Just remember, it can replayed and see if he is indeed guilty of such act. If the referee will indeed be guilty, it means, it may be unintentional and made a mistake inside the field or the money involved is quite huge where he doesn't need the job the next day.
But we can say, it is still happening but with the technology that we have, I believe it is declining in numbers.

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Quote from: _act_ on August 26, 2024, 05:44:49 AM

Quote from: Obim34 on August 26, 2024, 05:37:48 AM

Being asked if referees takes bribe, my answer would be Yes and sometimes they decide based on personal likeness or dislike for a club.

Have you heard of a referee that celebrated a team and was banned before? This is one:

A Dutch referee has been banned for life for celebrating a title win with a team

Don't you know that a match can be canceled if something like happened and known?

Everything a referee is doing is obvious and he or she will not want to lose his or her reputation. Bribing a referee will be somehow be useless.

True. Each action or decision made by the referee is also been observed and monitored by some other referees or the higher organization above so if he shows a non valid action like giving a red or yellow card in a certain team when it’s not supposed to, he will automatically put into an investigation and might ruin his credibility, or worst lost his job for a lifetime. That’s why bribing a referee is not that easy, otherwise the party that’s going to bribe will be disclose and will eventually put into shame.

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Quote from: retreat on August 26, 2024, 06:11:55 AM

There will always be cases like that where referees are bribed to win one side, but usually such things only happen in smaller leagues, for example like domestic leagues where FIFA monitoring is very weak and there are many mafias involved in the league. For cases in popular leagues, the cases are very rare, even if there are, they mostly involve players and officials. However, in international matches there are some rumors that say that a country can bribe referees to benefit them, for example like Qatar which is said to usually pay referees to win their team, although this has not been proven but every time they win it seems like they are helped by the referee.

The problem is that if you bribe a referree and he accepts it, then it is very difficult for the referee himself to cheat in the game in the favour of one team. We know that in most sports we have third umpires, TV umpires and it can be judged very easily if an umpire is biased with one team.

This also puts the question mark on the umpire ability as he gives wrong desicions and everyone sees it on camera. Not an easy job for referees to do this type of cheating in international matches.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on August 26, 2024, 05:27:26 AM

I have not read before that a referee is bribed. Common ones that I know are the football club manager and football players.

It would be easier if the refs were the ones getting paid, as it wouldn't be as obvious. I think the rigging shows when the refs are making questionable calls, and if the league itself is rigged, it would be easier for them to manipulate the outcome of the games. Just look at YouTube, there are a lot of videos about conspiracy theories on this topic. Although only a few have been caught doing this, some people believe that major leagues like the NBA, NFL, and MLB are rigged.

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I really don't know about bribing referees because they don't have any influence about how the players choose to play,. They watch the match like any other person but the difference is that they officiate the match according to the rules of the game and what they do is seen by all. What I've observed is that sometimes people feels that referees are biased, I've also had the thoughts but since we can not proof that they're bribed to give unfair calls, we'll be angry at the time and later move on from it. Referees are humans too they might have their own favorite among the teams that they're officiating and it can make them to be a little unfair to their unfavored team.

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There will always be cases like that where referees are bribed to win one side, but usually such things only happen in smaller leagues, for example like domestic leagues where FIFA monitoring is very weak and there are many mafias involved in the league. For cases in popular leagues, the cases are very rare, even if there are, they mostly involve players and officials. However, in international matches there are some rumors that say that a country can bribe referees to benefit them, for example like Qatar which is said to usually pay referees to win their team, although this has not been proven but every time they win it seems like they are helped by the referee.

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Though I am not a very good gambler, but I love football games. Other than any other games, I often try to don't miss international football games. Regarding your concern, I don't think it's possible to bribe referees; it's even possible, but not an easy task. International football games are monitored very strongly. Referees can't take any decisions without any reason. There are powerful cameras connected to the control room, which means anything wrong can be monitored. There would be some mistakes as humans, but that doesn't mean they happen intentionally. On the other hand, if referees decisions go against our supported team, we might think referees got bribes; that's why he give a red or yellow card. If happen any case about bribe, then it would be hard to find out them, and of course they would be punished as well.

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Quote from: bitbollo on August 26, 2024, 05:31:08 AM

here in italy all the scandals of this kind have always involved players.

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Also teams will not dare to do such bold move as bribing since their team might put at risk in general if the referee disclose it in the public.

2006, Juventus loses the title and gets demoted, Lazio and Milan get 30 points deduction, 20 guys get prison sentences of 6 to 26 months and bans from 3 months to a year from football and you say it's a risky move to arrange one match? Grin

There are hundreds of cases, common people, bribing referees even in the main leagues do happen!!!

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 26, 2024, 05:22:07 AM

What do you guys have to say about this? Do you think that referees can be bribed so they can issue a red card unnecessarily to the best-forming team to to make the team lose?

The chances of this occuring in a top league is slim to zero, you can see it in much lower divisions/semi professional,/ leagues. But when you go higher-up the ladder, the consequence of such an action is too high, plus the attention and scrutiny they get dissuades anyone from doing that.

Lots of factors influence referees decisions;
• Some have a bad day in the office,
• Some are new and nervous. We saw the red card Aspas got in Celta Vigo's opening match of the season. That was the referees first match and he most likely made a hasty decision due to jitters. The red card was overturned after consultation with VAR,
• Some referees are just bad and enforce the rules differently sometimes choosing to be overly strict or lenient,
• Bribery is the most unlikely cause of bad decisions.

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It depends on the league that this issuing of red cards carelessly would happen. In big leagues like EPL, Laliga, Seria A, and so on. If the referee gives a red card that does not deserves a red, VAR will check and call him into order and that cannot repeat itself twice in one match. If 3 players deserves to be given red card, amd the referee gave them, nobody will question him.

Referees are not bribed but they can be biased sometimes, if you overdo it, you will be suspended by FIFA.

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Quote from: Obim34 on August 26, 2024, 05:37:48 AM

Being asked if referees takes bribe, my answer would be Yes and sometimes they decide based on personal likeness or dislike for a club.

Have you heard of a referee that celebrated a team and was banned before? This is one:

A Dutch referee has been banned for life for celebrating a title win with a team

Don't you know that a match can be canceled if something like happened and known?

Everything a referee is doing is obvious and he or she will not want to lose his or her reputation. Bribing a referee will be somehow be useless.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 26, 2024, 05:22:07 AM

What do you guys have to say about this? Do you think that referees can be bribed so they can issue a red card unnecessarily to the best-forming team to to make the team lose?

Referees don't work independent of other bodies to guarantee that they could be easily bribed. The introduction of the video assistant referee has made it even more deficult for a referee to be biased in officiating a match talk less of collecting bribes.

If there is a slight form of believe that a referee was bribed that led to making certain wrong or hasty decision to a particular teams advantage, I believe a disciplinary measure will be mated on him without a second thought which will discourage such from happening.

When you even consider the decisions the referee and video assistant referee makes to check which of them looks more bias, it's more likely that the decision of the VAR most expecially with regards offside looks more biased than the decision of the referee.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on August 26, 2024, 05:27:26 AM

I have not read before that a referee is bribed. Common ones that I know are the football club manager and football players.

You might not have heard which also I haven't heard about any but we can't sum it to the fact that all referees are all good to avoid being bribed. Anything is possible as long we all are humans and considering the worth of winning matches then I believe any team or management can take a step ahead to secure their victory, left for the referee to decide if to accommodate such or revoke.

Being asked if referees takes bribe, my answer would be Yes and sometimes they decide based on personal likeness or dislike for a club.

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Typically, referee is very hard to bribe since they are working on different group which means there’s someone monitoring their decision in the game too that will cause to lose their job if they do such thing.

Also teams will not dare to do such bold move as bribing since their team might put at risk in general if the referee disclose it in the public. On bigger major league I think this is almost nonexistent but I’m not sure about minor league especially the local league because there’s a lot of potential anomalies that can happened on local sports.

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it is really rare bribe a referee.
his conduct is very evident/recorded and evaluated ... and as much as he can influence a match he always has less "power" than bribes a couple of players in a team Roll Eyes

here in italy all the scandals of this kind have always involved players.
referees have been involved but only partially (maybe they favored a certain team with "opinable" choices but not a real corruption).

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I have not read before that a referee is bribed. Common ones that I know are the football club manager and football players.

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So guys, I wanted to get your opinion again in this thread. The thread is concerned with only members that are really experienced in sports events and are mostly lovers of football.

Actually, the question I asked in my title has nothing to do with any matches that I have watched recently, but it's related to some previous matches that I have watched for a very long time.

So, have you guys watched a match where the referee is blowing a whistle to issue a red or yellow card at the wrong time? Even if what happened is not really something that requires a red or yellow card, but the referee just blows the whistle and gives a red or yellow card according to the situation he feels deserves it? In some of the previous matches I watched, I felt the referee was just unnecessarily issuing red and yellow cards repeatedly to the best-forming team, and I believe he was doing it to make the team lose the match.

What do you guys have to say about this? Do you think that referees can be bribed so they can issue a red card unnecessarily to the best-forming team to to make the team lose?

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