Although the vast majority of sports bettors lose a small percentage do make money long term.
Been reading a lot of sports betting blogs whilst there has been no sport to bet on.
Found two examples of guys that have been running there blogs for a few years and document there P/L
http://www.daily25.com/
Is run by an Aussie that's been documenting his P/L for several years including losing years, seems very legitimate.
https://smartsportstrader.com/
Run by an English guy that exploits casino bonuses and does sports betting.
He's been documenting his P/L for a few years also.
It does seem that some people are able to make decent money in the long term with the right strategies.
Would be interested if anyone has found any similar blogs to these two?
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I would like to know how real these stories are. As we know forex brokers, bookmakers and other casinos love to advertise those who were able to win something. But sometimes they just come up with these success stories and people play the role of such "lucky ones" for money.
So about that, did you know that 80 percent of traders on the stock market lose ??!
https://www.wealthwithin.com.au/learning-centre/share-trading-tips/trading-the-stock-market
Seen from this point, that's just like gambling (which is just hazard based) !
Of course, trading is an analogue of gambling - there is no doubt about it for me. There is no difference on what to gamble - in a casino, with a coin or with real assets. The result will always be the same - in a zero-sum game, the number of losers will always be the majority. If you work with assets correctly and not play and be an investor, the situation is completely changing: most investors are in the black (the longer the distance, the more substantiated this statement).
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Bluffing doesn't help against math
And I consider real poker - online poker. Only here you can play a huge number of hands to see some statistics.
There's a lot of gambling that is not based on pure luck just like poker! It is skilled base gambling which you are going to win consistently if you are good in that game, I read a thread here in gambling section which he is earning through gambling and he is doing it for a living, Imagine how he do it for a living if it is just a pure luck game. As long as your game is skilled based there's a high chance that you are going to win consistently as long as you are very good at it. Just imaging those poker champions 
The problem with poker is that there is a very low "ceiling" of skill. It is almost impossible for an ordinary person to learn how to play chess at the level of grandmasters, but almost anyone can be taught to play poker at the top level. And at this level luck decides everything, since everyone has approximately the same skill.
I like Negreanu a lot too but much of this is marketing. You certainly can acquire info (tells) at the physical poker table but usually after playing with the same player over and over again. With a new player, swallowing could mean they are nervous because they are bluffing or nervous because they have a monster. It is the patterns over time that players like Negreanu use. By the way, there are online tells as well. For example an advanced action check is likely a sign of a weak hand...
There's a lot of gambling that is not based on pure luck just like poker! It is skilled base gambling which you are going to win consistently if you are good in that game, I read a thread here in gambling section which he is earning through gambling and he is doing it for a living, Imagine how he do it for a living if it is just a pure luck game. As long as your game is skilled based there's a high chance that you are going to win consistently as long as you are very good at it. Just imaging those poker champions
The problem with poker is that there is a very low "ceiling" of skill. It is almost impossible for an ordinary person to learn how to play chess at the level of grandmasters, but almost anyone can be taught to play poker at the top level. And at this level luck decides everything, since everyone has approximately the same skill.
This is a great point and I agree. Another example is backgammon. There is a lot of skill in backgammon, but it is a relatively easy game to master. And once two masters are playing, the game is reduced to the dice rolls (luck).
There's a lot of gambling that is not based on pure luck just like poker! It is skilled base gambling which you are going to win consistently if you are good in that game, I read a thread here in gambling section which he is earning through gambling and he is doing it for a living, Imagine how he do it for a living if it is just a pure luck game. As long as your game is skilled based there's a high chance that you are going to win consistently as long as you are very good at it. Just imaging those poker champions
The problem with poker is that there is a very low "ceiling" of skill. It is almost impossible for an ordinary person to learn how to play chess at the level of grandmasters, but almost anyone can be taught to play poker at the top level. And at this level luck decides everything, since everyone has approximately the same skill.
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There's a lot of gambling that is not based on pure luck just like poker! It is skilled base gambling which you are going to win consistently if you are good in that game, I read a thread here in gambling section which he is earning through gambling and he is doing it for a living, Imagine how he do it for a living if it is just a pure luck game. As long as your game is skilled based there's a high chance that you are going to win consistently as long as you are very good at it. Just imaging those poker champions
I guess that will work properly for him because not all of us can get winning like him. He should have skills in poker so he can win and he can also make a living from poker games. The other skills-based gambling games is a sports betting because I think that some gambling can get their winning from their analysis to select the right team.
So just I heard stories of some peoples that do really good careers on sports betting, I mean in that in a full time engagement ,just like a job
One of them has abandoned his profession of doctor to go on a well road on horse's betting.
I mean that a really implicated players! But again it's not kids job
One of them has abandoned his profession of doctor to go on a well road on horse's betting.
I mean that a really implicated players! But again it's not kids job
I have a lot of friends who bet on football (soccer) in the European Champions League. One of them is even a coach at a children's soccer school. They are of course great football experts, constantly monitor transfers and other events in the life of clubs, they know which players were injured, who left his wife, who found a new mistress, and so on.
However, even they do not always win and there are times when they get losses. In General, of course, they have positive statistics on winnings.
I think that the secret of good bets is to be well versed in the theme and constantly follow the news.
Football bets, if you really follow certain matches, can be profitable!
But sports betting isn't the only gambling... Many people lose in poker, roulette, slot machines!
Danydee gave the right comparison with traders!
If many people won all the time, all the casinos would cease to exist!
So just I heard stories of some peoples that do really good careers on sports betting, I mean in that in a full time engagement ,just like a job
One of them has abandoned his profession of doctor to go on a well road on horse's betting.
I mean that a really implicated players! But again it's not kids job
One of them has abandoned his profession of doctor to go on a well road on horse's betting.
I mean that a really implicated players! But again it's not kids job
I have a lot of friends who bet on football (soccer) in the European Champions League. One of them is even a coach at a children's soccer school. They are of course great football experts, constantly monitor transfers and other events in the life of clubs, they know which players were injured, who left his wife, who found a new mistress, and so on.
However, even they do not always win and there are times when they get losses. In General, of course, they have positive statistics on winnings.
I think that the secret of good bets is to be well versed in the theme and constantly follow the news.
So just I heard stories of some peoples that do really good careers on sports betting, I mean in that in a full time engagement ,just like a job
One of them has abandoned his profession of doctor to go on a well road on horse's betting.
I mean that a really implicated players! But again it's not kids job
One of them has abandoned his profession of doctor to go on a well road on horse's betting.
I mean that a really implicated players! But again it's not kids job
I would like to know how real these stories are. As we know forex brokers, bookmakers and other casinos love to advertise those who were able to win something. But sometimes they just come up with these success stories and people play the role of such "lucky ones" for money.
So about that, did you know that 80 percent of traders on the stock market lose ??!
https://www.wealthwithin.com.au/learning-centre/share-trading-tips/trading-the-stock-market
Seen from this point, that's just like gambling (which is just hazard based) !
There's a lot of gambling that is not based on pure luck just like poker! It is skilled base gambling which you are going to win consistently if you are good in that game, I read a thread here in gambling section which he is earning through gambling and he is doing it for a living, Imagine how he do it for a living if it is just a pure luck game. As long as your game is skilled based there's a high chance that you are going to win consistently as long as you are very good at it. Just imaging those poker champions
The problem with poker is that there is a very low "ceiling" of skill. It is almost impossible for an ordinary person to learn how to play chess at the level of grandmasters, but almost anyone can be taught to play poker at the top level. And at this level luck decides everything, since everyone has approximately the same skill.
I do not agree with OP. In my opinion, no one could win consistently yes even with skill based gambling. Because, for consistent winning you must have high level of discipline which may not be possible with an entertainment because there are plenty of chances for you to slip down somewhere when you are too excited about your entertainments.
Even if you have this, chances of consistent winning is impossible. There is no chance that a gambler with a high level of discipline will consecutive times especially in games like this where it is pure luck. I remember the online game that I'm playing right now. It is purely RNG (items can be get thru pure luck) and even you used many bucks to buy some stuff, there is no 100% chance that you can get the item. It is the same with gambling. Even you put a million bucks there, the chances that you will win isn't 100% because it is still 50/50. Either you lose or fail.
I do not agree with OP. In my opinion, no one could win consistently yes even with skill based gambling. Because, for consistent winning you must have high level of discipline which may not be possible with an entertainment because there are plenty of chances for you to slip down somewhere when you are too excited about your entertainments.
Even if you have this, chances of consistent winning is impossible. There is no chance that a gambler with a high level of discipline will consecutive times especially in games like this where it is pure luck. I remember the online game that I'm playing right now. It is purely RNG (items can be get thru pure luck) and even you used many bucks to buy some stuff, there is no 100% chance that you can get the item. It is the same with gambling. Even you put a million bucks there, the chances that you will win isn't 100% because it is still 50/50. Either you lose or fail.
So just I heard stories of some peoples that do really good careers on sports betting, I mean in that in a full time engagement ,just like a job
One of them has abandoned his profession of doctor to go on a well road on horse's betting.
I mean that a really implicated players! But again it's not kids job
One of them has abandoned his profession of doctor to go on a well road on horse's betting.
I mean that a really implicated players! But again it's not kids job
I would like to know how real these stories are. As we know forex brokers, bookmakers and other casinos love to advertise those who were able to win something. But sometimes they just come up with these success stories and people play the role of such "lucky ones" for money.
Some gamblers do win but only few times and after they win they lose it again which means all gamblers lose money in the long run.I agree only the casinos which have a fixed house edge win in the long run.The casino is created with the sole intention to make money to the owners in the long term.But yes some gamblers do actually win and lately I have won some money in slot machines which I am sure I will lose them soon.
This is the thing, on the short term it is possible to obtain some profits out of gambling since the house edge did not had the opportunity to tilt the results in favour of the casino, but the longer you play a game with a negative EV the higher the certainty that you will lose money over the long term, this is confusing to players since they do not really understand the odds of the games but it is the truth, so if you do not really have any way to change the EV of the games then you should expect to become a loser over the long term. 
Even the dice games is easy to play that is one of the risky games in crypto gambling because once you bet there is two possible to get you lose your bet or you earned profit. They have many people who get a lot of profit in the dice games maube they use their strategy to get that .
Dice is one of the easiest ways for gambling sites to gain income. It only has 2 outcomes, so you can win or lose. And certainly, you can potentially win just in the easiest way in gaming, winning is always a regular occurrence in betting sites, others are just quiet because they see it every day, and they're not trying to discuss winnings with others. 
Because of the coronavirus outbreak, there are a lot of people cannot make any play on the gambling casinos because this is one of the most places gathered by the people just to have fun and enjoy the ambiance, fun, excitement, risk, and doubt for every player. Into the world of gambling there are only three people, first is the person who is full of luck, confidence and skilled enough to win all of their games those are the people who already gained a lot of experience on their games they are the one sometimes who conquer the game and we cannot deny by that skills they already gained popularity and hierarchy into the world of gambling, next is the people who always lose on their gambling even you are skilled enough sometimes it is lack because all the time we can face a person who is above on us, next is the person who loves to gamble, risk all thing not just to earn money instead just to look for fun. We cannot tell in every game that a specific person will always win their games sometimes it depends on the luck and skills with that kind of combination you will never experience loose, or not totally lose but still, you have a profit for your games. While you does make into the casino why not in the online gambling it is the same but there is no too much pressure from other players and the watchers or the observers.
Interesting thoughts. But i talked about people, to whom casino help to win. I mean they get AA or KK in their hands much more often than average (1 time on 110 games in Holdem), or better cards on flop or something like that. I think you understand my way of thoughts
Of course, casinos with license will not do such things and create such "Glowworms" to attract fools, but there so few such casinos
Even the dice games is easy to play that is one of the risky games in crypto gambling because once you bet there is two possible to get you lose your bet or you earned profit. They have many people who get a lot of profit in the dice games maube they use their strategy to get that .
Gamblers are actually win depends on how they luck on that they or on how they use the startegy but not all the time it is works.
Like in dice game for example once they lose in this bet for the second bet they gonna double their bet so if they gonna win they gonna get profit in dice games I earn more money to this and I really like to play and Im the gambler also who gonna win in this games.
Doubling bet when lost in the early game are kinds of strategies that are unique from player to player and does not work for everyone and in every game because, there a different kinds of gamblers and different mechanics in every game. Picking the right strategy for every game would be the best way of getting a higher chance for a win. Like in dice game for example once they lose in this bet for the second bet they gonna double their bet so if they gonna win they gonna get profit in dice games I earn more money to this and I really like to play and Im the gambler also who gonna win in this games.
Many gamblers especially beginners loses because of bad mentalities like when someone is winning in a certain game, they would most likely play in their too and making higher bets and already yearning for a higher profit. Gamblers should always first observe concerning different strategies other expert in gambling does and only bet low especially when they do not still have enough experience in any game.
So just I heard stories of some peoples that do really good careers on sports betting, I mean in that in a full time engagement ,just like a job
One of them has abandoned his profession of doctor to go on a well road on horse's betting.
I mean that a really implicated players! But again it's not kids job
One of them has abandoned his profession of doctor to go on a well road on horse's betting.
I mean that a really implicated players! But again it's not kids job
You should better to say no kids + No emotional people.
A real gambler with a real strategy, yes. he will win. for example, if you google matringle betting strategy you will understand this too easy to win and earn some money out of these websites.
This still depends.
Despite the strategies that people did, the house still has the edge and these gamblers usually always lose. Martingale might look a good strategy but actually it is not. You will never know the losing streak you have and before you know it, the money you are betting will quickly be burned by this strategy. That is the downside of this strategy, it will quickly burn out your balance. There is no such thing as perfect strategy since if a martingale is, people would take down houses and would obviously shut down casinos or gambling sites.
Gamblers are actually win depends on how they luck on that they or on how they use the startegy but not all the time it is works.
Like in dice game for example once they lose in this bet for the second bet they gonna double their bet so if they gonna win they gonna get profit in dice games I earn more money to this and I really like to play and Im the gambler also who gonna win in this games.
Like in dice game for example once they lose in this bet for the second bet they gonna double their bet so if they gonna win they gonna get profit in dice games I earn more money to this and I really like to play and Im the gambler also who gonna win in this games.
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