Topic: Do traders make more money than holders? - page 7. (Read 1811 times)

it depends not only on market conditions but on trend conditions that can help to make prices move up and down, when like today I see the trend going up and many traders will benefit from cryptocurrency price increases.

do it together and we will gain more profits than other traders.holding and day trading will give us various profits.some traders has strategy , they will use profits in day trading to accumulate their coins asset that used for long term investment.

making small profits with big frequent will be same amount with holder.traders will take all opportunity that occur in market and liquid them in short term.short term traders usually will get more benefits from market volatility.

The successful traders only make the profits more than holders but most of the people will not getting more profits then the holders because they are also being like that so we cannot compared that but they are getting frequent income very little by little and folders make huge profit after sometimes.

Right we can hold when the price is low and we can sell when it will become higher, holding can never give you lose if you deal according to the market movements, in bad conditions simply have to hold and in green you can sell for better result of your investments, with the passage of time price will be higher so now a day it is time to hold.

If holders know to predict the price it can cause a huge profit from them and hold it for long-time. Sometimes it cause a big problem for them if market in bad condition and loss their money with anonymous decission.

It depends on time/market situation I think. sometime Holders can earn huge profit and sometime trader. In bullish market holder can earn huge profit and in bearish market trader can earn profit than holders I think.

To me, trading seems like its good because you can make consistent income.  Holding bitcoin, you aren't making money even if price goes up. 


Let say a person has $10,000 to trade.  Right now this person can buy 1.1 bitcoin or so. 


To make it simple, let's make 1 btc = $5000.


This person buys 2 btc for $10000.  Im going to exclude the trading fee for this part.


Now the price of btc goes up to say $5500 in say a few days.  The trader now sells 2 btc for $11000.  Fee is 0.25 percent so $27.50 fee.  Now balance is $10972.50.  So at the moment the trader has made $972.50.  Now he watches the price and it goes up to $6000.  Of course he say man if i waited, could made about $972.50 more.  Well he isn't doing anything as the trader now wants the price to drop.  Now let say btc drops to say $5000, then to say $4500.  He now buys about 2.4x bitcoin with his current balance.  Say price stays around that mark for a while.  Then prices goes to $5200.  He then sells all the btc for usd or usdt.  Here, he would make around $1200 or so.  I just estimated the profit here and estimated the fee.  But this person now has a balance of $12172.50 or so.  And btc price is back to the original price it was earlier.


So here... this person has made around $2000 trading btc... while the btc price started at $5000 to start... went to $5500... went to as high as say $6000... but he sold it at $5500.  Then bought it again when price dipped to $4500.  Then let say at the lowest point it went to say $4200.  But as price went back to $5000, he sold it all. 


So a holder... does not profit at all.  Someone who bought btc at $5000.... and have these fluctuations of as high as $6000 and as low as $4200 during this time span made no money.  Let say this person bought btc at 5k and look at the price movements but would not sell at all during this time.  Yet the trader... made around $2000 in profit trading btc here.  Now if price dipped or went down and the trader couldn't sell, yes he is down money.  But unless he sells the btc... he isn't down money.


So wouldn't this mean being a trader is more lucrative than being a holder?  You can make consistent money monthly it seems if btc keeps on fluctuating in prices.  Of course if price keeps dropping, well its hard to make any money since it would be hard to sell it above buy price.


However, people say trading seems to be stressful.  Is it?  I mean, all you are doing is looking at the btc price... it either goes up , down or stays around the same.  Its not like you have to analyze it daily or something... do you agree?  Now let say its altcoins... that would seem like ton of work because you have to research all the coins.  And those coins have high fluctuations no where compared to bitcoin.


So if you trade, should you only trade bitcoin?  Or bitcoin and other big name coins like litecoin, etc?  Should you avoid any coin that is not in the top 20 for example?

It depends on time/market situation I think. sometime Holders can earn huge profit and sometime trader. In bullish market holder can earn huge profit and in bearish market trader can earn profit than holders I think.

i guess so , traders make more money than holders , because they do it constanly rather than holders who just hold it for several time
but also traders have chance to get loss more than holders i guess

For me both are equal in terms of profits, yes trader can earn everyday little by little if the price is constantly increasing but may suffer loss if the price went down, as for holders they are not after short term gains they are after the long term profits which can be very big depending on the price, it is like one time big time.