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August 19, 2024, 02:48:34 PM
#26
Is this not supposed to be in reputation board?
I think the same but since it's not proven to have any case because I believe people who had case could be take to reputation, but here is just a kind of suggestions to be yet concluded and there is no case attached to it that true against the user.
I have read a few thread from the user in the past and all were accusations without any possible evidence and none of the thread he created really worth it or arrived at any positive conclusion that exposes those that he accused, also I think he was the one that created a thread calling stake signature participants of being all spammers, which lead to alot of comments in the last couple of month's ago.

From that thread I have place that user on my ignore list, at least if he is not breaking forum rules and having the right to be here, it is worth ignoring because he is going to be around for a while until his games are off I advice everyone to do same too if you fine the user offensive in his approach.
In my own view that account is created for a retaliation maybe his man account was ban or something happened to it which made the user to be very mad and create that account to attack those who attacked him and was giving him trouble, also don't be surprised he main account was kicked out from stake, so with the pain he could go ahead talking against stake for no reason but for his mistake. Just as you said he can be ignored that is all.
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August 19, 2024, 11:12:54 AM
#25
People often make alt accounts to just further their own, singular viewpoint, or to shill, spam, etc. I don't believe that manipulating the forum with alt accounts falls under the category of "free speech." Its dishonest, capitalizing on the goodwill of the community & shouldn't be tolerated.
Simple! Regardless of what he's done already, there's definitely a way to know the truth - "see, the truth is like a lion, it fights for itself"
Just because he's doing it and not getting caught doesn't create the validations that he's doing the right thing..
I also reviewed the OP more closely, and it does not even alledge that the person involved made multiple submissions in the contest. It merely says that someone is an alt of someone else.
what more of an allegation do you wanna see quicky?? Huh? Just like you said, it can never be more accurate than this; it is what it is.
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I think it is pretty ridiculous to suggest that someone should be disqualified from a contest by virtue of forum rules soley for the fact that they have more than one account. I don't think someone having two forum accounts entering into a contest is "cheating" by any reasonable defination.
...and why's quicky so rooted against the fact that this is SUPPOSED to be true??
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August 19, 2024, 10:31:50 AM
#24
There are many instances like that where by you discover a newbie account or full member below but having a vast knowledge and idea about the forum like that of  legendary member, this is to show us that its nothing than alt account, some will be willing to express their feelings but being scared of their reputation being jeopardized for saying some certain things, instead they will prefer creating an alt account to do do, but as in this scenario in particular, there is no connection of the same account with any other one, which means he may not be going against the rules unless proven to have done so, this is a nice observation though, and i think more eyes are going to concentrate on this same user than before if anything may fish out now or later.
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August 19, 2024, 07:30:36 AM
#23
The forum is a very strong believer of free speech and freedom in general. The ability to create alt accounts is necessary to allow free speech. If you limit what an alt account is able to do, you are in effect limiting free speech.
oh c'monnn Quicky, this ain't even about free speech... Someone' has a maneuver to cheat in competitions and you're covering their ass?
As I mentioned, this thread is in meta, so it is specifically regarding forum rules, not rules of a contest.

I also reviewed the OP more closely, and it does not even alledge that the person involved made multiple submissions in the contest. It merely says that someone is an alt of someone else.

I think it is pretty ridiculous to suggest that someone should be disqualified from a contest by virtue of forum rules soley for the fact that they have more than one account. I don't think someone having two forum accounts entering into a contest is "cheating" by any reasonable defination.

I don't know who airfinex is, and frankly, I don't care. But the OP has not even made an alligation that he has done anything wrong.
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August 19, 2024, 06:02:46 AM
#22
The forum is a very strong believer of free speech and freedom in general. The ability to create alt accounts is necessary to allow free speech. If you limit what an alt account is able to do, you are in effect limiting free speech.

People often make alt accounts to just further their own, singular viewpoint, or to shill, spam, etc. I don't believe that manipulating the forum with alt accounts falls under the category of "free speech." Its dishonest, capitalizing on the goodwill of the community & shouldn't be tolerated.
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August 19, 2024, 05:20:29 AM
#21
In my opinion, I think that it is not permissible to allow alt accounts to participate in forum competitions and win prizes, even if they are allowed and do not violate the forum.

What would motivate a member to participate in a prize competition with an alt account? I mean, as long as his main account exists and does not have any problems or violations of the forum, why would he participate with the alt account? Most likely, there is either a problem with his main account or he wants to double his chances of winning, and this is considered cheating.
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August 19, 2024, 04:37:21 AM
#20
Is this not supposed to be in reputation board?
I think the same but since it's not proven to have any case because I believe people who had case could be take to reputation, but here is just a kind of suggestions to be yet concluded and there is no case attached to it that true against the user.
I have read a few thread from the user in the past and all were accusations without any possible evidence and none of the thread he created really worth it or arrived at any positive conclusion that exposes those that he accused, also I think he was the one that created a thread calling stake signature participants of being all spammers, which lead to alot of comments in the last couple of month's ago.


From that thread I have place that user on my ignore list, at least if he is not breaking forum rules and having the right to be here, it is worth ignoring because he is going to be around for a while until his games are off I advice everyone to do same too if you fine the user offensive in his approach.
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August 19, 2024, 01:29:33 AM
#19
Awards like Bitcoin pizza day, community awards etc. Do we allow alt accounts to participate?

The forum does not have any rules regarding alt accounts. So, the contest organizer should create local rules for their award, giveaways, and contests. Participating in a competition with multiple accounts is forbidden, and this is written in most contest threads. Even if it's not written anywhere, the participants should know it's frowned upon. But your question was not that.

If the contest organizer does not want to allow alternative accounts, even known or suspected ones, they can do so. But there will be a lot of drama then. People will start fighting that I am not an alternative account, while some of them are obviously alt accounts. The whole point of my post is that the contest organizer has to set the rules.
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August 18, 2024, 09:14:40 PM
#18
Maybe there are some coincidences? But yes, they always say that "if not caught, no crime,"  and he knows very well how to avoid being caught.
...and no crime? No prosecution! Meticulously playing his cards and hoping he doesn't get noticed.. I've never thought about that user to be an Alt - since, throughout the period when ratimov's case was a hot topic on the RP board, i wasn't really active.

Whatever happens, we dunno the user behind that account... We gotta watch out for any other steps, decisions, source of interest and  activity; if we could tell his interest in contest and bounties as well, we could align the same with a user from the same LB..
Remember, this remains an allegation until it's ascertained.
The forum is a very strong believer of free speech and freedom in general. The ability to create alt accounts is necessary to allow free speech. If you limit what an alt account is able to do, you are in effect limiting free speech.
oh c'monnn Quicky, this ain't even about free speech... Someone' has a maneuver to cheat in competitions and you're covering their ass?
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August 18, 2024, 10:20:11 AM
#17
There's high chance that airfinex is an alt account but so far there's no proof that it's actually an alt account or not. Because as a matter of fact, no one yet admitted that it's their alt account or no one yet found that whose alt account it could be.

I believe alt accounts are officially allowed on this forum but using alt accounts to participate in events multiple times isn't allowed. However, we don't yet know if he/she has participated in that awards from his original account.
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August 17, 2024, 07:50:30 PM
#16
This thread is in meta, so I will answer from the perspecive of forum policy.

For any question about allowing alt accounts doing x, the answer is yes this is allowed. The only exception to this is when someone is banned, as the offical policy is to not create an alt account to evade a ban. In practice however, if you are evading a ban, and are not otherwise causing problems, you will most likely be ignored. The most profilic trolls and spammers will have more resources put into finding and banning any alt accounts when they are banned.

The forum is a very strong believer of free speech and freedom in general. The ability to create alt accounts is necessary to allow free speech. If you limit what an alt account is able to do, you are in effect limiting free speech.
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August 17, 2024, 04:50:31 PM
#15
Is this not supposed to be in reputation board?
I think the same but since it's not proven to have any case because I believe people who had case could be take to reputation, but here is just a kind of suggestions to be yet concluded and there is no case attached to it that true against the user.
legendary
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August 17, 2024, 12:28:38 PM
#14
Pizza contest does not allow participants to make multiple submissions but you can't prove what was his other account or if he participated in this contest.
I don't see anything wrong with him winning something and having pizza icon in his profile.
If you have any proof of cheating post if here, if not than this is just personal stuff because you don't like each other.
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August 17, 2024, 12:10:46 PM
#13
Is this not supposed to be in reputation board?
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August 17, 2024, 09:07:21 AM
#12
If it can be proven that the main account enrolled in the contest, they should be both be eliminated if the rules are against multiple applications. The contest manager can make a decision outside this based on their discretion.

Yes it is, you know the forum's traffic keep declining and in order to protect the current traffic, the forum need to not be strict, that's why many plagiarist didn't get banned except they keep repeating the same mistake. Unlike in 2018-2019, if you only copy one sentence, you could get permanent banned.
We should not keep dishonest users on the forum to pump up traffic and I doubt the admin will take that approach to keep more users. Rule breakers reduce the quality of conversations and push out quality users.

If there is a drop in strictness it may be because some harsh judgements were meted out in the past.
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August 17, 2024, 08:36:00 AM
#11
Is there by any chance a topic that lists all the alt accounts that have already been identified? I know that alt accounts are not prohibited, but it could be a useful list for those who manage some of these Activities within the forum.

Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk IV (2024 Q2) [MODERATED] 🤨🔬

But most of the ones listed there are bounty hunters, and there are some cases where we don't know whose alts they are, as in this airfinex case. In other words, we have a thread but it does not help us to solve the problem posed by the OP.

It doesn't help, but it makes checking easier.
I thought of a topic, but in a list format and not a presentation of evidence. But, of course, I can't say someone is alt without proof.

Now we would compile this information. I saw that there was a file, but it hasn't been updated in over 2 years.
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August 17, 2024, 08:25:42 AM
#10
To me, using alt accounts to participate in such competition that is drawing many people attention to watch, what is happening in the forum and they discovered that there are many alt accounts in the competition, I think it will reduce the value of the forum, if there is a law or rule that allow alt accounts to participants in such forum awards, nothing wrong about that because the people that set up the rules and regulations that governed the forum knew that such thing will come up like this in this meta board.
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August 17, 2024, 06:49:33 AM
#9
Participating using alt accounts would be considered cheating, and if a few alt accounts were caught up in that mix, I am pretty sure the DT members would tag the accounts. The problem here is you haven't identified the alt account or main account of the culprit, and we can't even be sure if it also participated in the contest. So, the guy is "innocent" until proven guilty.
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August 17, 2024, 05:50:05 AM
#8
You can check accounts that may be alternatives to airfinex. I think he belongs to the Russian local section, as several posts were written in Russian, and he also claims to be a native Russian speaker. Also, check who of the Russian speakers is currently participating in the signature companies. Maybe there are some coincidences? But yes, they always say that "if not caught, no crime,"  and he knows very well how to avoid being caught.
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August 17, 2024, 03:30:04 AM
#7
Is there by any chance a topic that lists all the alt accounts that have already been identified? I know that alt accounts are not prohibited, but it could be a useful list for those who manage some of these Activities within the forum.

Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk IV (2024 Q2) [MODERATED] 🤨🔬

But most of the ones listed there are bounty hunters, and there are some cases where we don't know whose alts they are, as in this airfinex case. In other words, we have a thread but it does not help us to solve the problem posed by the OP.
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