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February 03, 2014, 02:22:16 PM
#48
bitcointalk has been hacked so many times.. you think the NSA dont know who is who on here?

USA can't get even Snowden...

knowledge is power... you think snowden escaped on his own? he is being protected by very very powerful players.... are you? am I? I doubt it.
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February 03, 2014, 02:19:24 PM
#47
bitcointalk has been hacked so many times.. you think the NSA dont know who is who on here?

USA can't get even Snowden...
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February 03, 2014, 02:17:08 PM
#46

How would  the US govt find those 71 "investors"? It's not as if they are sitting in one office in New york. It was open invitation here on bitcointalk.org and everyone was free to join.  They might be in different countries.  

Besides, those 71 accounts have been selling/distributing their shares. The number of accounts are now over 20,000. That number will keep growing at very fast rate.

Nxt is decentralized

thank you you just made my point for me.

bitcointalk has been hacked so many times.. you think the NSA dont know who is who on here?

just as an example for you... many many users of the silk road.. YES people using TOR encryption and Mixers to hide their tracks.. have been arrested and many more to come.

this is only hypothetical but IF the major players in an Alt coin such as NXT were found to be money laundering OR facilitating a Ponzi scheme then you can bet that US govt agencies would go after them.. and find most of them.


people assume too easily that Pseudonyms protect them.. they don't.

as I already stated I'm not alleging that NXT IS doing anything wrong.. just saying that it could easily be torn apart if bad actors were found to be involved in its creation. same goes for any coin that has any kind of concentration of power (in any form) and does not have the broader infrastructure in place..

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February 03, 2014, 02:09:04 PM
#45
we might need altcoins but not those two

Looks like u registered just to post ur competent opinion.  Cheesy
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February 03, 2014, 02:05:35 PM
#44
we might need altcoins but not those two
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February 03, 2014, 02:03:18 PM
#43

same goes for NXT... if the US govt decides to shut it down by locking up the 71 original investors then what happens?


How would  the US govt find those 71 "investors"? It's not as if they are sitting in one office in New york. It was open invitation here on bitcointalk.org and everyone was free to join.  They might be in different countries.  

Besides, those 71 accounts have been selling/distributing their shares. The number of accounts are now over 20,000. That number will keep growing at very fast rate.

Nxt is decentralized
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February 03, 2014, 01:43:32 PM
#41

Really, I believe that much of the hate for ripple will blow up when people will see its usefulness; the federate payment system is very powerfull. Right now you can open a gateway and if you are good at market making you consumers can buy with their currency in everyshop accepting bitcoins and ripple.

Actually you can buy everything with PPC XPM NMC LTC NXT and even with DOGECOIN; thx to ripple Tongue

if ripple is centralized and many bad actors get involved and start money laundering.. what is to stop the US govt from shutting it down like they did with liberty reserve?

same goes for NXT... if the US govt decides to shut it down by locking up the 71 original investors then what happens?

with bitcoin yes ofcourse any government could hunt down the people with the most coins.. but even if you took 90% of the coins out of circulation there are still enough coins in place to support the infrastructure that has been built around BTC.. so the system keeps working.

from what I can see NXT on the other hand does not have the infrastructure in place.. it relies mostly on being exchanged into LTC and BTC.

(this is the problem with most other altcoins too btw)

this is why the widest possible initial distribution is so very very important,

any kind of concentration is bad for ANY crypto coin.. even BTC.
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February 03, 2014, 01:38:33 PM
#40
The average person is saying the exact same thing with regards to BTC. Go around the streets and ask people. There are a lot of people that just feel its a fad that will die. They don't see the value in Bitcoin because of it being a digital currency. Some of my friends all feel why should they use it when Credit cards work just as well other than it being centralized. If one doesn't care about that then yeah...
Considering that even Bitcoin has struggled for years, how the hell do you expect that yet another obscure altcoin (in hundreds now), like Nxt to get some traction, huh?

Nxt did pretty well in 1 month since "official" launch.  It will get some traction by offering new features (faster transactions, messages, aliases, decentralized asset exchanges/market place, etc).

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February 03, 2014, 01:37:13 PM
#39
The average person is saying the exact same thing with regards to BTC. Go around the streets and ask people. There are a lot of people that just feel its a fad that will die. They don't see the value in Bitcoin because of it being a digital currency. Some of my friends all feel why should they use it when Credit cards work just as well other than it being centralized. If one doesn't care about that then yeah...
Considering that even Bitcoin has struggled for years, how the hell do you expect that yet another obscure altcoin (in hundreds now), like Nxt to get some traction, huh?

Bitcoin struggled for years because it was new. NXT and others are followups and as more people become interested in what are Cryptos more investments will start to come in. I joined last November because of all the media coming out about it from which I started to become interested after a few years of investing into stocks.

Who knows we may be seeing the day of Bitcoin and the like become the digital versions of Gold and such.

Competition is always good to drive the market forward. Its never good to stand still.
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February 03, 2014, 01:33:31 PM
#38
The average person is saying the exact same thing with regards to BTC. Go around the streets and ask people. There are a lot of people that just feel its a fad that will die. They don't see the value in Bitcoin because of it being a digital currency. Some of my friends all feel why should they use it when Credit cards work just as well other than it being centralized. If one doesn't care about that then yeah...
Considering that even Bitcoin has struggled for years, how the hell do you expect that yet another obscure altcoin (in hundreds now), like Nxt to get some traction, huh?
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February 03, 2014, 01:30:33 PM
#37
The average person is saying the exact same thing with regards to BTC. Go around the streets and ask people. There are a lot of people that just feel its a fad that will die. They don't see the value in Bitcoin because of it being a digital currency. Some of my friends all feel why should they use it when Credit cards/Paypal work just as well, if not better, other than it being centralized. If one doesn't care about that then yeah...

The people I talk to like it as a commodity (aka Gold equiv.) but not as the equiv of the USD, Euro, etc. They like the potential rise of their investment more than anything.
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February 03, 2014, 01:29:59 PM
#36
who knows maybe satoshi might come back in some years and release Bitcoin 2.0

He already did. And called it "Nxt".
Then why it has Java and .Net dependencies.

What .Net dependencies?

Java is open source (GPL licence) platform.

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February 03, 2014, 01:23:35 PM
#35
Average Joe is asking "Do we need BTC? FIAT are not perfekt but they work fine..."
People who like the technology and are openminded will accept it first. Speculators will keep trying all forms of black marketing and keep on with their prejudices until they completely miss the train...
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February 03, 2014, 12:48:18 PM
#34
We deff need NXT for when btc becomes regulated and centralized
We need alts for when btc becomes regulated and centralized. We don't need an IPO'ed shitcoin to replace it
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February 03, 2014, 12:40:46 PM
#33
We deff need NXT for when btc becomes regulated and centralized
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February 03, 2014, 12:11:22 PM
#32
Then why it has Java and .Net dependencies.

Good point. Real Satoshi would use Assembler.
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February 03, 2014, 12:09:26 PM
#31
who knows maybe satoshi might come back in some years and release Bitcoin 2.0

He already did. And called it "Nxt".
Then why it has Java and .Net dependencies.
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February 03, 2014, 12:08:13 PM
#30
Btw, if you don't like ripple, nobody is forcing you to use, lol Cheesy

I'm not sure how anyone would force me to use it since I'm unable to use it!

This doesn't make you honor  Grin

Huh?

It was a joke mate, never mind!

Can you (or someone else) translate?
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February 03, 2014, 12:07:16 PM
#29
Bitcoin is a masterpiece and first decentralized crypto currency.  So frankly it doesn't matters if people are launching alternative coins now. They can't replace bitcoin.  
We have found so many shiny stones till now but hey diamond is still there..

As for nxt and other coins.. We actually need them.. To attract more people.. to spread knowledge about cryptocurencies..To get better ideas and to find solutions for the flaws in our current crypto currencies..

who knows maybe satoshi might come back in some years and release Bitcoin 2.0

For most of the alt-coins I agree with this.

For Ripple I think there's a danger that this inferior solution could win. And the name of that danger is Google Ventures.

The fact that the Ripple pumpers keep trying to embrace and extend Bitcoin is especially worrisome.
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