Do we realy need NXT / Ripple ? - page 3.

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Quote from: pinarello on February 03, 2014, 11:44:10 AM

Quote from: Wipeout2097 on February 03, 2014, 11:12:47 AM

Hold on a second...

So, you Nxt'ers and others are not competing with fiat or with Paypal? You want to actually beat/replace Bitcoin?

Yes nothing less. period.

Yet you shit pumpers need BITCOINtalk.org to "market" it! Grin

Good luck, I guess...

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Quote from: escrow.ms on February 03, 2014, 12:03:48 PM

who knows maybe satoshi might come back in some years and release Bitcoin 2.0

He already did. And called it "Nxt".

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Quote from: anth0ny on February 03, 2014, 12:04:31 PM

Quote from: ervalvola on February 03, 2014, 12:03:06 PM

Quote from: anth0ny on February 03, 2014, 11:58:56 AM

Quote from: ervalvola on February 03, 2014, 11:52:27 AM

Btw, if you don't like ripple, nobody is forcing you to use, lol Cheesy

I'm not sure how anyone would force me to use it since I'm unable to use it!

This doesn't make you honor Grin

Huh?

It was a joke mate, never mind!

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Quote from: escrow.ms on February 03, 2014, 12:03:48 PM

Bitcoin is a masterpiece and first decentralized crypto currency. So frankly it doesn't matters if people are launching alternative coins now. They can't replace bitcoin.
We have found so many shiny stones till now but hey diamond is still there..

As for nxt and other coins.. We actually need them.. To attract more people.. to spread knowledge about cryptocurencies..To get better ideas and to find solutions for the flaws in our current crypto currencies..

who knows maybe satoshi might come back in some years and release Bitcoin 2.0

much quote!

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Quote from: ervalvola on February 03, 2014, 12:03:06 PM

Quote from: anth0ny on February 03, 2014, 11:58:56 AM

Quote from: ervalvola on February 03, 2014, 11:52:27 AM

Btw, if you don't like ripple, nobody is forcing you to use, lol Cheesy

I'm not sure how anyone would force me to use it since I'm unable to use it!

This doesn't make you honor Grin

Huh?

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Bitcoin is a masterpiece and first decentralized crypto currency. So frankly it doesn't matters if people are launching alternative coins now. They can't replace bitcoin.
We have found so many shiny stones till now but hey diamond is still there..

As for nxt and other coins.. We actually need them.. To attract more people.. to spread knowledge about cryptocurencies..To get better ideas and to find solutions for the flaws in our current crypto currencies..

who knows maybe satoshi might come back in some years and release Bitcoin 2.0

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Quote from: anth0ny on February 03, 2014, 11:58:56 AM

Quote from: ervalvola on February 03, 2014, 11:52:27 AM

Btw, if you don't like ripple, nobody is forcing you to use, lol Cheesy

I'm not sure how anyone would force me to use it since I'm unable to use it!

This doesn't make you honor Grin

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Quote from: ervalvola on February 03, 2014, 12:01:44 PM

Quote from: anth0ny on February 03, 2014, 11:58:56 AM

Yes, I guess I don't like Ripple. But what I really don't like is when people try to say that Ripple isn't competitive with Bitcoin.

It's the truth however...
actually ripple helps bitcoin...

That's the line. But I've already explained how it's nonsense.

If Ripple becomes ubiquitous, you don't need Bitcoin. If Bitcoin becomes ubiquitous, you don't need Ripple. Both want to be ubiquitous.

That's competition.

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Quote from: anth0ny on February 03, 2014, 11:58:56 AM

Yes, I guess I don't like Ripple. But what I really don't like is when people try to say that Ripple isn't competitive with Bitcoin.

It's the truth however...
actually ripple helps bitcoin...

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Quote from: ervalvola on February 03, 2014, 11:52:27 AM

Ripple is young. You couldn't buy anything in the first year with BTC.

Yeah, but the potential was there, at least.

Quote from: ervalvola on February 03, 2014, 11:52:27 AM

Btw, if you don't like ripple, nobody is forcing you to use, lol Cheesy

I'm not sure how anyone would force me to use it since I'm unable to use it!

Yes, I guess I don't like Ripple. But what I really don't like is when people try to say that Ripple isn't competitive with Bitcoin.

"Bitcoin may not be perfect but it's good enough." Damn straight. I hope the vast majority of us can focus on getting Bitcoin accepted everywhere rather than wasting time with also-rans like Ripple.

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Ripple is young. You couldn't buy anything in the first year with BTC.

Btw, if you don't like ripple, nobody is forcing you to use, lol Cheesy

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Quote from: ervalvola on February 03, 2014, 11:44:57 AM

Quote from: anth0ny on February 03, 2014, 11:25:22 AM

Quote from: ervalvola on February 03, 2014, 11:14:10 AM

Ripple actually makes easier to exchange bitcoins with local currencies, that's its point ; )

As far as I can tell it doesn't do that.

I want to buy a BTC with US dollars. How does Ripple make it easier for me to do that?

Ultimately I have to send my US dollars to someone I trust. OK, so I send it to Coinbase and buy my BTC.

Again, how does Ripple make things any easier?

It does! ; )
Let's imagine that, for example, coinbase act as a ripple gateway.

No. I don't want to use my imagination. How does Ripple actually make things any easier?

Coinbase doesn't "act as a ripple gateway", and I see no reason to believe they ever will.

Quote from: ervalvola on February 03, 2014, 11:44:57 AM

YOu could send USD to coinbase and buy bitcoins from Bitstamp, RippleChina, TheRockTrading, or wherever you want, if the price are lower or it's easier to cash out.
Actually you can send USD to SnapSwap (or deposit locally through ZipZap locations) and buy bitcoins from bitstamp inside the ripple wallet.

If I trusted Bitstamp or RippleChina or TheRockTrading or wherever then I'd just go with them directly.

I trust Coinbase. So I send my USD to Coinbase. And I get my BTC.

Ripple doesn't make that any easier.

(By the way, why in the world would Coinbase facilitate buying your BTC from some other company at a lower price?)

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Quote from: anth0ny on February 03, 2014, 11:25:22 AM

Quote from: ervalvola on February 03, 2014, 11:14:10 AM

Ripple actually makes easier to exchange bitcoins with local currencies, that's its point ; )

As far as I can tell it doesn't do that.

I want to buy a BTC with US dollars. How does Ripple make it easier for me to do that?

Ultimately I have to send my US dollars to someone I trust. OK, so I send it to Coinbase and buy my BTC.

Again, how does Ripple make things any easier?

It does! ; )
Let's imagine that, for example, coinbase act as a ripple gateway. YOu could send USD to coinbase and buy bitcoins from Bitstamp, RippleChina, TheRockTrading, or wherever you want, if the price are lower or it's easier to cash out.
Actually you can send USD to SnapSwap (or deposit locally through ZipZap locations) and buy bitcoins from bitstamp inside the ripple wallet.
It federates the various money-transmitting business; could be very disruptive.

Btw, I'm not so crazy about ripple, it's just a good software which, I believe, could be very usefull.

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Quote from: Voluntold on February 03, 2014, 11:05:00 AM

The differences between Ripple and Nxt are huge. First off, Premined does not = scam. Ripple is centralized, and I don't believe it is open source. Nxt's main complaint seems to be about the initial distribution, which so far is better than bitcoin, so I don't see where people can be complaining there. Look, you can either put 10k-20k in mining equipment and try to get rich, or put 10k-20k in a stake in Nxt and try and get rich. Personally, I think Nxt has HUGE potential. I think the people that are butthurt about Nxt, are mostly the people that already have thousands of dollars worth of mining equipment, and are now upset to see that you can support the NXT network on a solar powered Raspberry Pi...

Good post -- I can only add that a lot of individuals who happen to be mad about NXT (or Ripple) unfortunately fail to understand both. They babble "scam" but do not grasp the concept of PoS or in the case of Ripple, its nature of a p2p payment network.

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Quote from: Wipeout2097 on February 03, 2014, 11:12:47 AM

Hold on a second...

So, you Nxt'ers and others are not competing with fiat or with Paypal? You want to actually beat/replace Bitcoin?

Yes nothing less. period.

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NXT is the future

Quote from: crocko on February 03, 2014, 09:57:05 AM

Bitcoin may not be perfect but it's good enough. Period.

Op what is your agenda?

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Quote from: ervalvola on February 03, 2014, 11:36:05 AM

Quote from: anth0ny on February 03, 2014, 11:27:36 AM

Quote from: ervalvola on February 03, 2014, 11:14:10 AM

Actually you can buy everything with PPC XPM NMC LTC NXT and even with DOGECOIN; thx to ripple Tongue

Who cares? No one accepts PPC XPM NMC LTC NXT or DOGECOIN.

No one needs to accept DOGE.
You send DOGE - the merchants receive USD (or Bitcoin, or swensencoin or cipstercoin or whatever).

Rly you should try ripple, is a nice software.

I have tried it. Got nowhere and accomplished nothing.

Quote from: ervalvola on February 03, 2014, 11:36:05 AM

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The only part that's somewhat of a hassle is exchanging USD with BTC. But with Ripple the hassle is finding someone who will extend trust to me in USD.

NO no, no1 needs to trust you Cheesy

Trust is needed only for gateways ; )
NEVER give trust to individual unless you are a very expert of the system!

I don't know what the stupid terminology is. All I know is that it was a lot easier to spend BTC than it is to use Ripple. I didn't have to send a money order to someone I didn't know. I didn't have to meet with anyone in a dark alleyway. I gave my bank information to Coinbase and they hooked me up with BTC.

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Quote from: anth0ny on February 03, 2014, 11:27:36 AM

Quote from: ervalvola on February 03, 2014, 11:14:10 AM

Actually you can buy everything with PPC XPM NMC LTC NXT and even with DOGECOIN; thx to ripple Tongue

Who cares? No one accepts PPC XPM NMC LTC NXT or DOGECOIN.

No one needs to accept DOGE.
You send DOGE - the merchants receive USD (or Bitcoin, or swensencoin or cipstercoin or whatever).

Rly you should try ripple, is a nice software.

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The only part that's somewhat of a hassle is exchanging USD with BTC. But with Ripple the hassle is finding someone who will extend trust to me in USD.

NO no, no1 needs to trust you Cheesy

Trust is needed only for gateways ; )
NEVER give trust to individual unless you are a very expert of the system!

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Quote from: ervalvola on February 03, 2014, 11:14:10 AM

Actually you can buy everything with PPC XPM NMC LTC NXT and even with DOGECOIN; thx to ripple Tongue

Who cares? No one accepts PPC XPM NMC LTC NXT or DOGECOIN.

Besides, I don't need Ripple to exchange BTC for some coin-no-one-cares-about. I can do that on BTC-E.

The only part that's somewhat of a hassle is exchanging USD with BTC. But with Ripple the hassle is finding someone who will extend trust to me in USD, and that's harder than finding someone to exchange USD/BTC.

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Quote from: ervalvola on February 03, 2014, 11:14:10 AM

Ripple actually makes easier to exchange bitcoins with local currencies, that's its point ; )

As far as I can tell it doesn't do that.

I want to buy a BTC with US dollars. How does Ripple make it easier for me to do that?

Ultimately I have to send my US dollars to someone I trust. OK, so I send it to Coinbase and buy my BTC.

Again, how does Ripple make things any easier?

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