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copper member
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August 17, 2021, 04:40:03 AM
They are not called whales for no reason, and where some will be calm with the market others might be brutal thus manipulation of different forms, some pull down the market only to buy low and pumps it again to be in massive profits. That is actually the reason why most times, you need to be careful of the way you follow most newer projects with that idea of pump and dump, in fact investing in crypto demands you use funds you can afford because everyone is after their own profit.
Also, this manipulation of a thing, affects coins in different ways, and how good the coin is, will determine how the long term holding will be, that is, coins like Bitcoin and Ethereum have many whales, they can shake off weak hands to get profits but since they are good coins holding long term always favours. So in other words, being a whale sort of gives power to Influence the market.
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August 13, 2021, 11:15:41 AM
I see many people wondering. Do whales manipulate the market?
I found website, it contains all the information about whale wallets we need to know:
https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html?fbclid=IwAR1Sswk63v4xVX58QdJFhlbzCA6hLNbRguJyimWXK7AfnR86go1kze7gJdg


For this matter it's not really our area to start a conversation, but I would like to say, that for a pope class person it is impossible to do such an act, it would be very influential if done so.

We can't properly prove the source you provided, if I look at the website you provided, there is no solid evidence to justify it, but I'm sure this is impossible for the pope to do, considering his influence is currently at stake.
hero member
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
August 13, 2021, 10:40:43 AM
Since there is no authority in the market so it would be manipulated. Those who are little investor they have to think carefully before take any trade.
We should think that the market gets quick run or get much higher due to the appearance of the whales . I thinks this is a positive aspect for the market. Whales means investors, more whales, more investors and awareness is up to you.
hero member
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Vave.com - Crypto Casino
August 10, 2021, 06:31:14 PM
I am excited to see this list of bitcoin wallet holders. what I have in mind, is not about them controlling the market. that's for sure..but what I think about is how their daily life is by having this huge amount of btc...
You'll never see the typical list of bitcoin holders. What's out in the public are those huge amounts of bitcoin holders which are commonly owned and stored by the biggest exchanges.
(https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html)
That's the list and you might get to see who are in the top 100 and if there are some whales that are individual, we will never know who they are. Unless they speak to the public and admit it with proof but I don't think it will ever happen.
hero member
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August 10, 2021, 09:39:34 AM
Yeah they do all the time, and it's all done to set themselves up for some super cheap coins from the panicking and weak hands.
Without manipulation these whales wouldn't be in the market neither would markets be pumped by them.
So in the end As much as manipulation may sound like a bad thing it also works in our as price goes up during this manipulation process.
sr. member
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August 10, 2021, 09:02:55 AM
Yeah, they are those who manipulated the market, they can easily dump and pump the market because they ar holding huge amounts of coins. So you should not be FOMO because of what whales are doing, if they dump it then just and hold and never sell yours because you won't lose money if you will still hold your coin because if it results in panic selling then that would be a good entry for the whales then the market will get hard to reach the moon.
it's actually not that easy. the whales in the market are also waiting for a good moment to start their market manipulation. sometimes they work with influencers or they themselves actually provide the signal in their channel group.
although whales with huge money, they also need a lot of followers to be able to generate some sentiment in the market.
I think there is no need for them to have a number of followers as these whales can manipulate the market if they want. Well, that timing might be a need for them and sometimes they take advantage of the FUDs and started to manipulate the mind of the people. But I doubted that they always succeed, maybe they also suffer losses just like us. However, if we think the risk that they are doing, I can say that they are taking more than for us a causal investors and traders.
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Rangers Protocol
August 10, 2021, 08:42:16 AM
I think yes since they have a lot of Bitcoin. They could send it to another wallets and then try to manipulate the price. Although they won't do that always because sometimes there is a right timing. Wrong timing to manipulate the market would be not effective. Whales can trigger small Bitcoin holders so they will sell the token and then the whales will eat them all.
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Meta4uStake.io
August 05, 2021, 09:33:40 AM
Yeah, they are those who manipulated the market, they can easily dump and pump the market because they ar holding huge amounts of coins. So you should not be FOMO because of what whales are doing, if they dump it then just and hold and never sell yours because you won't lose money if you will still hold your coin because if it results in panic selling then that would be a good entry for the whales then the market will get hard to reach the moon.
it's actually not that easy. the whales in the market are also waiting for a good moment to start their market manipulation. sometimes they work with influencers or they themselves actually provide the signal in their channel group.
although whales with huge money, they also need a lot of followers to be able to generate some sentiment in the market.
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July 25, 2021, 01:03:59 PM
yes, that's what I mentioned that they can manipulate the market to seek profit for themselves and the group they build. on the other hand I think it will have an impact on the token being developed, but most of what I see it will have a negative impact.
The negative impact will indeed exist when the whales have discarded the token and are no longer interested in it, because when they (the whales) have had enough of the profits, they will go to another token by throwing away the old token.

what they often do is like that, but not all suffer losses when they do, there are also traders who benefit because they manipulate the market and it will not last long.
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July 23, 2021, 01:28:13 PM
These days we can see more of the influence than manipulation. This is based on the market variation happening in correspondence to the acts of popular faces. In recent days Elon Musk is much into the cryptospace and has influenced it big. Now his positive act on bitcoin makes the market bullish and vice versa. Like this we can connect the growth of the network with different popular faces of the past.
full member
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July 23, 2021, 01:11:48 PM
in instance, yes its possible. Since they could move a huge amount of crypto that could affect the market stability and prices.
they can dictate how much would they wanted for a token since they can buy or dump a huge amount.
legendary
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July 23, 2021, 12:39:11 PM
To be honest, i believe that there are some people who can control market either with news or maybe directly control with pump and dump in market especially altcoin markets. Usually we can see sometimes a coin can be pumped without any good news or update from the coin itself and it is just happen instantly. I think it can be considered like whale control market.
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July 23, 2021, 12:32:24 PM
Obviously yes, unfortunately the whales strongly manipulate the market when they sell they make the price go down but fortunately when they buy they make the price go up.

Not only do whales manipulate the price, but they also make this system more centralized, as when the whole power is in the hands of one participant of the market he can control it.

Fortunately, devs are trying to fight against whales. I am talking about different defi-projects. There are different limits like canceling transactions for those who are trying to buy or sell a big sum of native tokens. So devs may create something similar to all tokens soon. On the other hand, it will still be possible that whales buy from many wallets, but we will see.

yes, that's what I mentioned that they can manipulate the market to seek profit for themselves and the group they build. on the other hand I think it will have an impact on the token being developed, but most of what I see it will have a negative impact.
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July 22, 2021, 11:16:55 AM
whales always manipulate market in order to gain maximum profits from retail traders. with their huge money had , whales have cooporation with other group and make deal will shake the market and let weakhand sell their bitcoin cheaply to them.  It is many times did by them and we have understand with actually whales have done to market.
sr. member
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July 22, 2021, 09:55:53 AM
I think not any whales can manipulated the market price because whale give all information about bitcoin transaction depend with bitcoin, altcoin and usdt sending from one wallet to other wallet, now have whales about future position when got liquid, use long or short position. I think depend with trader self how to faced with whales because when big whales like bitcoin transaction sending become the way for short opening position.
legendary
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July 21, 2021, 10:33:53 AM
Obviously yes, unfortunately the whales strongly manipulate the market when they sell they make the price go down but fortunately when they buy they make the price go up.

Not only do whales manipulate the price, but they also make this system more centralized, as when the whole power is in the hands of one participant of the market he can control it.

Fortunately, devs are trying to fight against whales. I am talking about different defi-projects. There are different limits like canceling transactions for those who are trying to buy or sell a big sum of native tokens. So devs may create something similar to all tokens soon. On the other hand, it will still be possible that whales buy from many wallets, but we will see.
hero member
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July 18, 2021, 09:13:00 PM
Whales can and will manipulate the market majority to their favor . But this is not as often as you can imagine. There are several factors also to be consider as the what extent of price sacrificial would be to achieve gains in manipulations.
True its more of influencing the market rather than manipulating it, if the coin is low in trading volume or market cap then maybe its possible but that also requires capital that could be risky, the whales instead influence the market through news etc,  and that secure capital while also could have big impact. I doubt anyone would spend big capital just to move market to their favor.
sr. member
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July 18, 2021, 08:39:05 PM
I think it always be, bitcoin price was so cheap 10 years ago and i'm sure there are several whales are holding bunch of them in seperated wallets. So the price could be easily manipulated. This kind of condition is common in crypto, if we want to survive, just make a long time investment on a strong fundamental coins
sr. member
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Vave.com - Crypto Casino
July 18, 2021, 08:17:21 PM
It is common, which happens blatantly, not even a few people lose because of this manipulation, we ourselves are very upset about it, trying to avoid it by keeping up with market movements, because it is important knowledge in trading.
hero member
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July 18, 2021, 08:07:53 PM
Whales can and will manipulate the market majority to their favor . But this is not as often as you can imagine. There are several factors also to be consider as the what extent of price sacrificial would be to achieve gains in manipulations.
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