Topic: Do whales manipulate the market? - page 8. (Read 1533 times)
they do manipulate the market but to a certain level. there is a certainty that most whales got liquidated at some point because no one controls the market. Also, Not all whales are equal. some has more funds than others. the large whales might has some certain control but on one Is above mistake and they might loose there funds if they fail to follow normal TAs and FA.
IMO whales do control the crypto market most times, in 2017 the crypto market was highly manipulated by whales who pump and dump whenever they see fit, this is the reason why most projects during their crowdfunds usually have a max amount for one individual, to stop one person from owning too much, cause when they do they can manipulate the price of that coin or token whenever they feel like.
This is true, those who have the money can manipulate the market especially if the whales together to pump or dump the market, small investors will pay for the price of that action. Whales are doing it to earn more money and become more big whales, that’s how rich people stays rich. We can ride with the whales but it’s too hard to know their strategy, they can pump and dump at no time so be ready for every possibility.
Interesting website. Well, I think when whales want to manipulate the market, it's impossible to escape, but what would be nice to know is who is a whale nowadays? I feel that the amount of BTC per person has decreased and the amount of BTC by institutions has naturally increased, I don't have evidence of this feeling, but that's what it looks like. In the past, some people were able to impact the market, today these same people would hardly have this ability. The market is more professional too.
I personally believe that if the market is manipulated by whales, they can easily steer the market as they see fit but what I do know is that they will profit from every bad decision made by small investors.
If you can control your emotions when whale act, it's not impossible that your investment can be profitable.
If you can control your emotions when whale act, it's not impossible that your investment can be profitable.
I see many people wondering. Do whales manipulate the market?
I found website, it contains all the information about whale wallets we need to know:
https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html?fbclid=IwAR1Sswk63v4xVX58QdJFhlbzCA6hLNbRguJyimWXK7AfnR86go1kze7gJdg
Yes, I think that whales have a huge impact on crypto market. Especially in the smaller alt coins there can large buy or sell order make big prices jumps. Whales with their big wallets can easily buy large parts of a coin. If the market capitalisation of a coin is only a few million Dollars, then them a billionaire could easily buy 50% of all the available coins. When owning such large percentages of a single coin, they can easily manipulate the prices with their orders.
Its not a new issue anymore, whales can manipulate the market by spreading FUD so they will buy for cheaper price.
They're smart and wise compared to an average investors/traders who are only counting for the market movement.
Whales can work as a team and has concrete plan on when to buy and sell their assets, this way they can maximize their profit. Seems like the future can be predicted on their hands when it comes to prices of the coins.
Indeed, by optimizing and enhancing their existing advantages in a great way, the futures of the market are volatile according to their different ways of placing their hands, some people may think this is a new thing but manipulation mode has been completely available since the crypto market started, we need this mode to deliver dream prices. When we don't know, the processing will be quite troublesome but for now, with such a scenario, I believe that investors are not short of some relevant, familiar answers beyond necessity They're smart and wise compared to an average investors/traders who are only counting for the market movement.
Whales can work as a team and has concrete plan on when to buy and sell their assets, this way they can maximize their profit. Seems like the future can be predicted on their hands when it comes to prices of the coins.
Of course, this is literally that's why they exist. There is still no regulation in the markets, so a whale can manipulate small-scale stock markets as it wishes and earn income.
it's not only a small scale market but when you are seeing the whales on binance and these whales can create a collusion to manipulate the big market. There are some big market that got manipulated by the whales even the whales can also manipulate the bitcoin market as well. The whales have been playing various market. The whales were also actively pumping the shitcoin and that's it. All of the suspicious pump already created by the whales to fool the newbies and newcomers. Whales were playing in all scales of market.
I see many people wondering. Do whales manipulate the market?
Sure, whales can manipulate the market, but I don’t think we should really be relying on all these websites to tell us how much that whales own and how many they don’t. There is no site that can give you accurate on things like this, so there is no need to be relying on them. One person here can decide to own more than one wallet, and you won’t be able to tell if they are the one or not, because there is no way prove that.These so called whales you don’t know how much they own in the market, and nobody knows. But one thing for sure is that they can manipulate the market in one way or the other to put things in their favor.
It's no secret that whales with all their abilities are capable of doing many things including manipulating the market, but whales here are not just individuals, they can also be groups. Market panic is the target for whales, and usually it always happens so the whales will get richer and small players will be more disadvantaged because of the whales.
Yes, that's clear, what you are feeling now, but it is necessary to first observe why this market manipulation is happening now, whether it's because of individual whales or groups that are in power, not necessarily all of that happens, because there are still many fish. little observant in this regard.
they manipulate because they want to profit . maybe you mean is we need to figure out first why the market is falling because there could be other reasons for the fall not just manipulation caused by whales .
manipulation or not , we can calm down and understand the technology behind the coin that we invest . their value could go down but they can recover and grow more bigger in the future
It's no secret that whales with all their abilities are capable of doing many things including manipulating the market, but whales here are not just individuals, they can also be groups. Market panic is the target for whales, and usually it always happens so the whales will get richer and small players will be more disadvantaged because of the whales.
Yes, that's clear, what you are feeling now, but it is necessary to first observe why this market manipulation is happening now, whether it's because of individual whales or groups that are in power, not necessarily all of that happens, because there are still many fish. little observant in this regard.
Its not a new issue anymore, whales can manipulate the market by spreading FUD so they will buy for cheaper price.
They're smart and wise compared to an average investors/traders who are only counting for the market movement.
Whales can work as a team and has concrete plan on when to buy and sell their assets, this way they can maximize their profit. Seems like the future can be predicted on their hands when it comes to prices of the coins.
They're smart and wise compared to an average investors/traders who are only counting for the market movement.
Whales can work as a team and has concrete plan on when to buy and sell their assets, this way they can maximize their profit. Seems like the future can be predicted on their hands when it comes to prices of the coins.
Yes they do, one person can have unlimited amount of bitcoin so a whale has no reasons to hold all of his bitcoins into a single wallet.
What is that possibility? Decentralization is the promise of opening a circle of balance, although, something can happen when billions of dollars are minted into bitcoin, it has the potential to be on the verge of FUD and the data just shows up. The proofs are modified and the phenomena distort the real values! Lol 
Rich people call the shots.
This is a fact, whether we want to accept it or not. As a rich person one can do whatever that pleases one with one's wealth. I don't frown at hodlers with massive stach disposing their coins as and when due. It's their right. If anyone feels that whales manipulate the market because they sell at a particular time, then that will be wrong. Except if the holdler does what Elon Musk does with his supportive or fudding tweets from time to time so he could get in cheap or sell off high, this one I find manipulative. Don't forget that the same way people hodl Bitcoin in large quantities is the same way most of us hodl certain altcoins too, only that these altcoins may not worth much ATM. They could become valuable in future and a lot of others who don't have them will begin to cry foul when we sell. There's nothing wrong as a trader if you want to sell off to buy back when there's indication that the token could crash or dump from technical analysis. Nothing wrong with that. I don't think it's whales' fault that the market dumps whenever they sell.
This is a fact, whether we want to accept it or not. As a rich person one can do whatever that pleases one with one's wealth. I don't frown at hodlers with massive stach disposing their coins as and when due. It's their right. If anyone feels that whales manipulate the market because they sell at a particular time, then that will be wrong. Except if the holdler does what Elon Musk does with his supportive or fudding tweets from time to time so he could get in cheap or sell off high, this one I find manipulative. Don't forget that the same way people hodl Bitcoin in large quantities is the same way most of us hodl certain altcoins too, only that these altcoins may not worth much ATM. They could become valuable in future and a lot of others who don't have them will begin to cry foul when we sell. There's nothing wrong as a trader if you want to sell off to buy back when there's indication that the token could crash or dump from technical analysis. Nothing wrong with that. I don't think it's whales' fault that the market dumps whenever they sell.
It's no secret that whales with all their abilities are capable of doing many things including manipulating the market, but whales here are not just individuals, they can also be groups. Market panic is the target for whales, and usually it always happens so the whales will get richer and small players will be more disadvantaged because of the whales.
I see many people wondering. Do whales manipulate the market?
I found website, it contains all the information about whale wallets we need to know:
https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html?fbclid=IwAR1Sswk63v4xVX58QdJFhlbzCA6hLNbRguJyimWXK7AfnR86go1kze7gJdg
The market cannot be manipulated , this only comes to reality once the people react from the manipulating strategy of the whales.I found website, it contains all the information about whale wallets we need to know:
https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html?fbclid=IwAR1Sswk63v4xVX58QdJFhlbzCA6hLNbRguJyimWXK7AfnR86go1kze7gJdg
Example they sold all their coin that will start the value to drop badly , if we panicked and sell our coins also then that will be the domino effect and the whales successfully manipulated the market.
But if we will not react and just let them sell their coin then we are safe from their target and surely they will buy back again for the reason of failure .
This is possible if all traders is an investors but the majority of traders in cryptocurrency are swing/day traders that's the price always volatile everytime some major news occur because they don't want to be trapped for a long time compared when they cut-loss or take profit already for a short period of time. Cryptomarket need a consistent organic huge volume to diminished volatility. The majority volume of exchange are from bot wash trading.
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We all know that this market has always been, the price and control of it from the whales is undeniable. Maybe with the current cap we can be happy that it is a lot different from before, but to be honest it is still very small compared to other markets.
Most of whales are targeting the market by affecting it from retailers' psychology such as spreading fud and that could very well affect the market despite the ever growing market capitalization.Moreover if they succesfully making people in state of fear, the panic seller could be a lot bigger since as you know, the recent bullrun has attracted many new comers and whether the market manipulation is rather small compared to other market
we don't know but the thing is, a lot of crypto market are unregulated ones. which can be good and bad.
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.....and there it goes that other people will panic upon their trap set.I can imagine that a lot of plummet in price of Bitcoin was purely whales trap and not just that Elon Musk crap that everybody believes that it caused the price to plummet.
The cryptocurrency affects all currencies in the market and investors suffer greatly as a result of market manipulation no one can accurately tell the difference in the price of coins for whales. Prices start to rise but over time they fall to avoid the effects of these whales you need to search the market and choose the right time.
the information provided is only related to the percentage and number of bitcoin holders. whales could have a large number of their bitcoins in multiple addresses. but we don't know if it's a bitcoin holder with an active address or an address that can't be accessed by the owner.
but indeed whales with large investment values can manipulate the crypto market. they use bitcoin as well as altcoins. we know how fundamental bitcoin is in the crypto market. even the slightest movement can affect the market, as well as the altcoin market.
now what often happens is that FOMO is created in the crypto market. the news on social media creates hype in the market. the whale has not played its part. if they are already playing the crypto market, it will be very easy to fall and get back up again.
but indeed whales with large investment values can manipulate the crypto market. they use bitcoin as well as altcoins. we know how fundamental bitcoin is in the crypto market. even the slightest movement can affect the market, as well as the altcoin market.
now what often happens is that FOMO is created in the crypto market. the news on social media creates hype in the market. the whale has not played its part. if they are already playing the crypto market, it will be very easy to fall and get back up again.
Those are just records of proportions of Bitcoin and a summary of how many people are holding it.
We can't tell if those are whales or just holders who had been keeping their coins for a long time up until now.
But about your question, yes, whales do manipulate the market and it may not be with bitcoin but altcoins.
A good example is Elon Musk trying to manipulate Dogecoin. You may want to avoid those kinds as it gives higher risks if suddenly that bagholder decided to switch to something better to toy with.
We can't tell if those are whales or just holders who had been keeping their coins for a long time up until now.
But about your question, yes, whales do manipulate the market and it may not be with bitcoin but altcoins.
A good example is Elon Musk trying to manipulate Dogecoin. You may want to avoid those kinds as it gives higher risks if suddenly that bagholder decided to switch to something better to toy with.
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