Do you agree market behavior has changed? - page 4.

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Quote from: ariinv on March 27, 2022, 09:09:48 AM

There are many tools and indicators all traders use to predict the market and buy and sell assets! When most people use the same tools , there is no more competitive advantage between them and everyone one will act the same! They receive the same signal and same prediction! Thus there is no contrast in the market technically , we believe the market is not running technically like before and we are expecting major changes , What do you Think?

Since the beginning of the year 2022, the cryptocurrency market has experienced ups and downs, but in recent weeks, it has begun to show signs of stability, and if it continues to rise, I predict it will reach more than $50k in the next weeks. In my perspective, the market is presently taking on a really positive structure.

Not stability but rather moving sideways which we had experiencing for a couple of months already on which it didnt really make out some significant move and that what makes positioning even more harder specially into those who do come after for short term trading and its true that it is something that hard. Speaking about behavior then its already been anticipated or expected because
adoption and recognition or simply the demand rate is much more higher compared into those old years than now which it would really be that evident with some unusual changes or
movement in the market.

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Quote from: acener on March 29, 2022, 08:27:26 AM

I don't think that the market behavior has changed at all it is still the same as always unpredictable.
Signal group has been around for so long and it has been like that even in the past we would see some people who would believe those but there are others who would be against their signals.
Most of the signal groups are playing with shitcoin since it could easily be manipulated if they would have enough people to cooperate so I don't really like those groups at all.

Shitcoins have been a danger to most people as far as I can remember. Signal groups use them to make as much profit as they could, and not even the whole group, usually just the owners of the group make that kind of money. This means that the more risky stuff you put your money in, the more you are leaving them as target practice for these places.

This is why it is quite important to realize that if you want to make money, then it is much better to put them into somewhere signal groups can't reach. Market could go up and down like crazy because we are a volatile market, but that doesn't mean that you should be putting money in low liquidity stuff and assume that is just volatility that makes it go up and down like that.

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Quote from: ariinv on March 27, 2022, 09:09:48 AM

There are many tools and indicators all traders use to predict the market and buy and sell assets! When most people use the same tools , there is no more competitive advantage between them and everyone one will act the same! They receive the same signal and same prediction! Thus there is no contrast in the market technically , we believe the market is not running technically like before and we are expecting major changes , What do you Think?

Since the beginning of the year 2022, the cryptocurrency market has experienced ups and downs, but in recent weeks, it has begun to show signs of stability, and if it continues to rise, I predict it will reach more than $50k in the next weeks. In my perspective, the market is presently taking on a really positive structure.

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Quote from: acener on March 29, 2022, 08:27:26 AM

I don't think that the market behavior has changed at all it is still the same as always unpredictable.

Very nice explanation, the market is unpredictable and it will stay that way forever! Exactly this unpredictability affects people to make and lose money, we all try to make a profit by trying to guess in which direction the market is going, but it doesn't always work simple and easy! That's what the trading is all about, I see it as an incredibly complicated numbers game! Some are better at it than others, but we are all free to try it out and see if it's for us!

Quote from: acener on March 29, 2022, 08:27:26 AM

Signal group has been around for so long and it has been like that even in the past we would see some people who would believe those but there are others who would be against their signals.
Most of the signal groups are playing with shitcoin since it could easily be manipulated if they would have enough people to cooperate so I don't really like those groups at all.

As we said, the market is unpredictable! There are a million indicators that can be tracked but there are no guarantees! Sports betting has reached its peak, there are so many groups, paid predictions, all possible statistics, zillion experts and again we all miss often, simply surprises happen! I am saying that cause it's the case with crypto now! We are far from the peak, we will see more groups, paid groups, more indicators, more bots, but the crypto market will stay unpredictable and people & bots will make and lose money every day!

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Quote from: Lubang Bawah on March 30, 2022, 11:59:20 PM

Quote from: ariinv on March 29, 2022, 08:18:53 AM

Thank you for your reply but What happens if most traders leave the trade to robots? Same as they prefer to sit relaxed in the car and let AI take them to their destination point?

Many altcoins projects that bring the concept of robots for trading, but it seems that it can't be 100% effective, I've tried trading with bots or robots, but there are many limitations so I prefer manual trading, if all traders submit to robots of course this will make prices are easy to predict.

Bots are not easy to trade with. It doesn't really go with the market movement and sometimes I heard that the coding on bots are not really guarantee for steady profit. Most traders claim to be traders but they want to rely on bots while they go about doing other businesses believing trade is easy.

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Quote from: ariinv on March 29, 2022, 08:18:53 AM

Thank you for your reply but What happens if most traders leave the trade to robots? Same as they prefer to sit relaxed in the car and let AI take them to their destination point?

Many altcoins projects that bring the concept of robots for trading, but it seems that it can't be 100% effective, I've tried trading with bots or robots, but there are many limitations so I prefer manual trading, if all traders submit to robots of course this will make prices are easy to predict.

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Quote from: passwordnow on March 29, 2022, 05:42:42 PM

Quote from: ariinv on March 29, 2022, 08:18:53 AM

Thank you for your reply but What happens if most traders leave the trade to robots? Same as they prefer to sit relaxed in the car and let AI take them to their destination point?

It's going to be the same, they have buying and selling orders being set and all you need to do is to wait for it until those orders is being hit. The bots can't trade on its own without you as the owner of it that uses it without setting it first. That's why before you leave it, you need to put a task on it so that it'll do its job as indicated and purpose of it. If you don't know how to use it, check all the bots first and see which of them you prefer to use.

Thank you but are you denying the cornerstone of economics is change over time? Whales, sharks and big players hate anything staying too good to too bad indefinitely!

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Quote from: ariinv on March 27, 2022, 09:09:48 AM

There are many tools and indicators all traders use to predict the market and buy and sell assets! When most people use the same tools , there is no more competitive advantage between them and everyone one will act the same! They receive the same signal and same prediction! Thus there is no contrast in the market technically , we believe the market is not running technically like before and we are expecting major changes , What do you Think?

Yes on the sense that we arent seeing big red or green candles in a short time or generally speaking about talking about huge percentage crashes which do like happen in the past.We might be seeing some declines but

not into that certain extent or level just like or compared back into those early years which means that the market had able to made out some solid support on prices which does simply indicates that demand and

recognition is really getting even more better in numbers or percentage.In talks about behavior of the market then it is volatile as usual there are instances that i do follows technical analysis but most of the time
it is really on random basis.

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Quote from: ariinv on March 29, 2022, 08:18:53 AM

Thank you for your reply but What happens if most traders leave the trade to robots? Same as they prefer to sit relaxed in the car and let AI take them to their destination point?

It's going to be the same, they have buying and selling orders being set and all you need to do is to wait for it until those orders is being hit. The bots can't trade on its own without you as the owner of it that uses it without setting it first. That's why before you leave it, you need to put a task on it so that it'll do its job as indicated and purpose of it. If you don't know how to use it, check all the bots first and see which of them you prefer to use.

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I don't think that the market behavior has changed at all it is still the same as always unpredictable.
Signal group has been around for so long and it has been like that even in the past we would see some people who would believe those but there are others who would be against their signals.
Most of the signal groups are playing with shitcoin since it could easily be manipulated if they would have enough people to cooperate so I don't really like those groups at all.

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I would like to say the patterns mights be changing for the crypto currency but the behaviour is all over same. I dont see any changes in that one. The crypto is entriely based on decentralised trading which is result of how much is being influx and how much is outflux thats all! Crypto gets quickly altered in the prices based on proportionate amount of money which has been injected into the stream of market. For example, bitcoin might need heavy investment but simple altcoin like SHIBA could be moved quicker with heavy fiat injected into it.

So these so called "investment patterns" might be changing over the course of time, however the bulls and bear cycle over large period of time remains constant. I see crypto is moving further and further on positive scale.

Obviously if you gonna see the trading chart scale on 1 minute level and on 10 year scale then that's entirely different story.

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Thank you for your reply but What happens if most traders leave the trade to robots? Same as they prefer to sit relaxed in the car and let AI take them to their destination point?

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I see your point but indicators are just indicators to give you idea about the market and it is still different from the strategy. It is a battle between sellers and buyers and indicators only showing some technical analysis but that doesn't mean all people are following those. Not all traders have the same analysis and perspective about the market and there is no way majority will only follow what will an indicator will tell without basing on other things.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on March 29, 2022, 02:30:19 AM

Even with the "tools" or those who share their analysis in streaming services, there will always be a percentage of traders that like to go against the flow.
That will never be changed because we have different behaviors when it comes to deciding.
Just imagine if all of us are going on the same road. There will be nothing left in the town we just parted with so, who will be there to trade against?
Instead of the word "change" what I use is "adopt".

It is obvious that our reasoning in trading won't be the same thing plus FOMO, JOMO and emotions, all interact with our decision even when we have made better analysis of the market. In market , there will be losers and gainers and the next day the table may turn as so it goes until someone is made rich from others that are consistently losing their capital.

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Quote from: ariinv on March 27, 2022, 09:51:49 AM

Thank you So Much for your kind attention and reply! I am talking about trading, for example daily trading. I agree there are gamblers in the market as well that just buy and sell sentimentally , but if you monitor the market since November again you will see there is not any clear trend and technically most of the indicators do not work properly! Maybe it is a war signal and the market predicted that , but it is an event not a trend, right?

indicators are just a tools that can help us to obtain some information, but since market is so volatile there's always a chance those useful indicators that what we are using will be not accurate sometimes, especially if we are just basing in one time frame because surely there will always an error on our speculation..
That's the reason why in market there's a different time frames wherein for us to choose which one is more accurate and good to make speculation. If we you were talking about daily trading these are very common time frames 1H, 4H, daily and so on for long term.

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Quote from: crwth on March 29, 2022, 03:06:21 AM

As the world started to accept and adapt to crypto applications, their treatment has become very different or so diverse that it had to adjust and made viable to other users. So more people involved means more parameters affecting the market.

Another thing is that it's going to be harder to predict. That's why you say its behavior has changed. It's always going to be tricky.

I think the things that happen right now across the world brought back focus on crypto since it delivered like a safe way to save and transfer funds in places which where under war.

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Quote from: ariinv on March 27, 2022, 09:09:48 AM

There are many tools and indicators all traders use to predict the market and buy and sell assets! When most people use the same tools , there is no more competitive advantage between them and everyone one will act the same! They receive the same signal and same prediction! Thus there is no contrast in the market technically , we believe the market is not running technically like before and we are expecting major changes , What do you Think?

I see the behavior of using tools as part of the search for knowledge for a more accurate assessment and it is always necessary for everyone, from beginners to even after mastering all skills. Even so far when looking at this market, we need to evaluate it because of many things. If you really understand it, the results you get will be worth it. There are many things to talk about creating buying and selling behavior. I like news, investor sentiment, etc., because they are all very important. If you are careful and serious, you will always know how to control it no matter what happens in the market. It can be the daily stress of thinking to make trading decisions, or just being a pure holder who always sells everything when profits have been made.

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Quote from: ariinv on March 27, 2022, 09:09:48 AM

There are many tools and indicators all traders use to predict the market and buy and sell assets! When most people use the same tools , there is no more competitive advantage between them and everyone one will act the same! They receive the same signal and same prediction! Thus there is no contrast in the market technically , we believe the market is not running technically like before and we are expecting major changes , What do you Think?

that's the uniqueness of the market, where there are no traders who are in line, even though they get the same signal, but they will take different actions when someone is buying, but there is also a time when someone is selling. that's human psychology and everyone has their own opinion, where there is a stubborn human side, there are also those who just follow what people say, so it's impossible for everything to be in line, if there is, of course within a certain period of time, so we often see pumps or dump

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As the world started to accept and adapt to crypto applications, their treatment has become very different or so diverse that it had to adjust and made viable to other users. So more people involved means more parameters affecting the market.

Another thing is that it's going to be harder to predict. That's why you say its behavior has changed. It's always going to be tricky.

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Even with the "tools" or those who share their analysis in streaming services, there will always be a percentage of traders that like to go against the flow.
That will never be changed because we have different behaviors when it comes to deciding.
Just imagine if all of us are going on the same road. There will be nothing left in the town we just parted with so, who will be there to trade against?
Instead of the word "change" what I use is "adopt".

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