Topic: Do you agree that big winners should donate to addiction support programs? - page 2. (Read 317 times)

The winner is free to do anything with his money, it is a donation and anyone can donate without any coercion.
It's just about caring, wanting to donate is certainly good and otherwise it won't be a problem and must be appreciated.

Gambling addicts do need rehabilitation costs in order to recover and the planned donation will certainly reduce their cost burden.
But of course preventing addiction is a better thing, so there will be no more addiction.

This is funny because I believe that there are addicted gamblers who win big and finally lose it back to the casino. How do you think that such addicted gambler after winning big will have the courage to donate to his fellow addicted gambler. From my own point of view if a small portion from your big win is donated to an addicted, don't you think that you are encouraging other gamblers to become addicted in order for them to receive donations. If I may ask, what do you think these addicted gamblers will do to the money donated to them, they will gamble with it and lose it all to the casino since they cannot control themselves.

It is fine if gamblers decide not to support any gambling addiction programs, it is not as if they will be cursed and start losing money and this won't make those contributing to the program to make more money either, this must be a matter of decision making, let the gamblers decide this themselves.

Let's not forget that gamblers already make their decisions when they are about to start gambling, if you are reckless you will see the result and if you are responsible with your gambling you will also get the results, as for me I can only help if I see any reason to do so, the situation must be very bad for the addicts for me to help.

You can call me names for being wicked but gambling addiction is something you dragged yourself into, no one else but yourself, you let your greed get the best of you, gambling is dangerous, everyone knows this and you must always have this in mind before you decide to be a gambler, the first and last priority of every gambler is becoming a responsible gambler.

If it comes down to it, then the consequences of any created problem should be solved by those who create this problem. I am of the opinion that the casino should make the donation, not other (lucky) gamblers. And even better, if each gambler would be forced to deduct part of the money (as a tax) from bets to a fund to help future gambling addicts, because he himself can at any time become one of these people. Why should others pay for his "entertainment" - let him start saving from his first bet for future treatment.

Did those big winners promote gambling addiction in any way? Or did they advice any gambler to be addicted? I am not saying it's bad to do so, but it should be at self will and not a must. It's the duty of every gambling to maintain a healthy and responsibile gambling lifestyle, any individual that chooses irresponsible gambling lifestyle should take responsibility for themselves.

If they want to. It's not something people should be forced to do so. It's pretty similar to how people want rich people to pay more taxes or something and while I get the idea yeah that it could help in general, the setup isn't just made properly for it. Not to mention that it doesn't even guarantee that the support programs will actually be able to help people. If we were going to force people to pay up when they win, might as well use it for money that's actually guaranteed to be useful no?

Anything that's about "donating" should always 100% be of free will of the person donating. Anything forced is just, well, forced.

Actually, it is not that fault that those gamblers are addicted to gambling, but helping them by donating some funds to them is nothing bad. It is by choice and it's not a must that they should donate to them at all.
However, it's not their responsibility to give them some money out of them money that they have won from their bets, if we want to talk about people that are supposed to help the addicted gamblers we should be focusing on the casino because the casino are the people that collect from them legally. Besides when the addicted gamblers win the casino lose, but when the casino wins the gamblers loses.

Well, if gamblers does support the addicts with such programs by donating some portion of their winnings then that's a good thing but if they don't donate any money to such programs then no one can call them selfish or greedy.

I believe philanthropists are the ones who might consider supporting such programs by donating some money to those, and I believe some gamblers can also be philanthropists.

Absolutely NO! This is not their matter. Anyone should be free and decide how to spend money.
If they will be forced to donate part of the wins (even if trivial amount) it would be just something sad.

I can understand a voluntary charity, but there are many many good causes that deserve direct support not only related gambling.

This is entirely funny like a gambler that got a bi win should donate some funds for addiction support programs? Like who does that isn't it same money each and every gambler uses to gamble and then the ones that are not lucky enough lose while the lucky ones win. Seriously I don't see any reason than any big winners should do such.

What makes you think so, possibly you think the big winners are comfortable with gambling just to get wins, I think every gambler should fight for himself before ever which you start gambling know what's it's all about and don't forget to always gamble with money you can afford to lose and definitely you won't be at loss or regrets when you eventually lose. And yes everyone is at Liberty to do what they like ad regarding their money so I know for sure that it's just 1% that would do such meanwhile y'all know what it takes to be addicted to gambling so it's better to limit it thsn look for someone else to intercede for your addiction or loss.

You already answered the question with your second gesture because it's impossible for me to pay for someone else voluntary behaviour. how can you put your hands into the fire and expect me to use my little wins to pay for your bad behaviour? it's a big NO for me, I wouldn't even pay a dime for anyone of such.

@Op if you have a casino or gambling ground and you plan on implementing this idea that big winners will be taxed for addiction support program, you're just step from crashing the business because a lot of customers would turn away from you for just that single reason.

Gambling is addictive we all know so anyone in this present day that warnings are becoming the colours of casinos for gamblers not to get addicted or for gamblers to take responsibility of their life, anyone who fails to take those warns shouldn't expect to be helped by for any reason expect by volunteers.

Should definition:
Now, you have a situation where you want to obligate or coerce someone into donating, you might as well call it tax and put a 1% on every win, it will be just as much of a donation as the other one!

A donation is voluntary, you can't discuss what people "should" do with voluntary stuff! 

The only way I see this ever happening and working would be if those donations would be considered tax credits on full value, but I doubt any government would want to create another tax loophole, especially one related to gambling!

Is the government cutting taxes isn't enough? Do you want players to give more?

I guess it's better if the government takes the rewards and lets me keep the tax money only.

Donation is done voluntarily not by forcing anyone through guilt, we already pay taxes to our government for the development of the society and I am sure they already have more than enough if they stop financing wars.

No. Donation is something that should be done voluntarily and it’s odd to apply it to someone that involves in gambling since all gamblers surely suffer losses too before they win that huge amount.

If gambler will do real time calculation I’m sure most of us will still at loss or just breakeven even if they win huge amount.

I agree that donation can be considered but not a mandatory or customary. Rich people should be doing and not people from gambling.

Addiction is a risk of gambling and all gamblers are at risk of becoming addicted, however, addiction is not inevitable, a gambler can avoid becoming addicted by gambling responsibly and keeping themselves in control. So back to your question, I don't think a gambling winner needs to donate their money to an addiction support program because they have no responsibility to anyone else - addiction is a risk that all gamblers have and gamblers who gamble already know for sure that they are responsible for themselves, and no one else has responsibility for that, because it is their own decision to gamble. However, if a gambling winner has good intentions to donate their money to the program, that is actually very good, but making it a requirement for all gambling winners is not necessary.

I disagree because the responsibility for gambling addicts should be placed on the gambling business owners, they do not just get operating permits, therefore it is only right that the gambling business owners are the ones who are burdened, not the gambling winners.

In my country there are millions of citizens who are addicted to online gambling, to be honest I am sad about the number while our government has made no move to reduce the number.

Well I believe donation's aren't really an obligation but a volunteering act so placing the action to gambling like there are somehow entitled to do so is not really cool and I believe if the gamblers deem it fit to donate to the cause then it fine but really not something that's pinned to anyone and besides their winnings is their winnings and the casino really didn't hand it free to them so they deserve to do with whatever they feel.

I once gave money or donated to a friend for his rehabilitation, and this is from my winning. I did that because he's my friend, and he did help me when I was in need, but its not obligatory, and its based on a winner's decision if he will donate to strangers.

You will not become a charity institution if you become a winner in gambling. You should be picky on who will share your earnings, and it should be your immediate family, or an additional allowance or savings for paying bills and groceries.

The word "should" is not suitable for charity. It is always a voluntary donation. I agree to help those in need, but I do not agree to help those who have voluntarily driven themselves into a gambling pit. This is not oncology, which occurs by chance; addicted players consistently kill themselves, not wanting to listen to those who are next to them and to any warnings about the measure of games.

Therefore, I do not see the need to oblige people who win a big prize to help those who have not yet received such luck. I always say that gambling should be used as entertainment; if people do not agree and think that someone is obliged to give them a prize as their main income, then let them cure themselves of their delusion.

I would rather donate money to children in Third World countries or those who need emergency medical care.

if gambling winners are to donate part of the money they've won for the addicted gamblers or to support thier program, what then should gambling company do? As long as you're a gambler, there is always a point In time when you've approached the range of being addicted and it's never the responsibility of a fellow gambler to bring out part of his winning for whatever programe you're doing that's to help you come out of your addiction. If you're a member of the forun And regardless of all the advice you're getting from the forum you still get addicted and gambled recklessly, you're definitely on your own.

We've painted gambling addiction as though it's something that any one is more responsible for other than yourself and that's for me not a good one. Your the first brunt bearer of whatever action you've taken and when it's time to face the repaculsion that comes from taking such an action, you should be ready to bear the consequences of your action. On all gambling site you're advice to gambling responsibly and if you're searching out for podcast and messages that informs you on ways of gambling responsibly, there are more than a thousand and one messages available for grab. If you're waiting for the little win I get after I have lost a dozen of time during gambling, you're definitely a joking.