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Quote from: jossiel on February 21, 2024, 03:46:51 PM

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Quote from: jossiel on February 20, 2024, 06:07:05 PM

It's not the best way because if you don't have that capital, you see how it is going to be, you'll not be able to. But if you have some small amounts and they're spare, you can invest to their bankroll and be with the casino and win through house edge against the gamblers.

While your point may be valid, understand the difference between the best way and the easiest way. Assuming you have all the money needed, the best way to make the money is by opening the casino. But if you don’t have the money to launch a casino, you have to go for the easier way due to your hinderances. You see?

Yes sir, I understand.

If it's about making money and I have money needed. I won't open a casino, it sounds easy and profitable but it's too hectic.

And that is because with all of the competition against the big casinos right now, it's like a saturated market although there's a lot of money really on this industry but I've got something better to use with that capital if I have.

Okay. Different people with different opinions. But then, what I like to see is that you say that you’ve got something better to invest the money into instead of casinos. I’d say that It aligns with my view that money should be invested into other things other than gambling. If you must gamble, ensure that you have a job and the money you stake is little or nothing compared to your income.

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Quote from: Fredomago on February 21, 2024, 05:48:07 PM

If for sure win I surely agree that those people will not waste time taking some penny from those seekers, knowing that they can easily take that money out from casino. It's really something that you needed to understand if you are planning to by or pay for some tipsters online, every individual who are claiming that they are experts and asking for money should be avoided, or you can ask them to bet in your behalf using their own money and you'll going to pay them if the bet wins. As a simple as it is and I'm sure no one will give or provide you that kind of a deal, all those paid tipsters can't bet first using their own money and allow you to repay them after the net wins.

Yes that's the logic, if indeed those who are called experts can really turn the betting process into a win at the end of the session then obviously they will not waste time looking for people who will become their customers, and the question is why the experts don't do it themselves? anyway they can make the betting results always win right? with the ability they have then can't they become one of the billionaires? Of course, this is what doesn't make sense to me which makes me not believe that there are so-called "prediction experts" in gambling and as you said that we must be really careful because lately there are quite a lot of people who try to take advantage of the situation at all costs and maybe the victims will be people who are very taboo on gambling.

Eliminate all faith and trust in people who claim to be experts, because chances are it's not true, gambling is always about the game of chance and no one ever knows about the outcome at the end of the session, and also on the other hand I would really believe that they are experts if they are one of the croupiers or casino owners themselves.

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Quote from: terrific on February 20, 2024, 05:56:18 PM

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Yes, it is what exactly I have said. You only worry about yourself and you'll not regret it because you lose. There's sort of regret but it's not as heavy as you've relied to someone's prediction.
That's the reason if you're checking out other predictions and you have your own and you followed them and lose, you're going to blame yourself for doing that when in fact, you can also predict and have a better choice.

Not really that actually a better choice but this is something that choice you made.On the time that you would be losing then there would really be no regrets because you do know
that it was your pick and not theirs. Some are really just that too lazy on making their own analysis on which in the first hand, if they do have this kind of feeling then they shouldnt
have done this on being that too dependent into someones calls. Experts or professionals wont really be asking any sub fees or even bothering themselves on making some group
for some tips and betting choices or predictions in exchange with those fees. They are already making money, then why would accept pennies? Cheesy

If for sure win I surely agree that those people will not waste time taking some penny from those seekers, knowing that they can easily take that money out from casino. It's really something that you needed to understand if you are planning to by or pay for some tipsters online, every individual who are claiming that they are experts and asking for money should be avoided, or you can ask them to bet in your behalf using their own money and you'll going to pay them if the bet wins. As a simple as it is and I'm sure no one will give or provide you that kind of a deal, all those paid tipsters can't bet first using their own money and allow you to repay them after the net wins.

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I don't believe any form in disguise that a gambler might be posed to be an expert in the gambling. If he is sure of of his prediction.
Even if you would had won the game I personally wouldn't believe that the won game was as a result of his expert predictions.
Well I will say you were lucky that you never played the game or trusted him as your other friends does but that doesn't mean that you as a usual gambler hasn't lost funds in the gamble rather it would be something regrettable because you be feel being fooled and had preferred if you predicted the game and lost than depending on others would couldn't make a different. There would be a misleading emotions then. Sorry bro I don't believe any claims of gambling experts as long winning in gambling is based on luck.

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Quote from: Quidat on February 21, 2024, 04:06:09 PM

Quote from: terrific on February 20, 2024, 06:51:41 PM

Yes, it is what exactly I have said. You only worry about yourself and you'll not regret it because you lose. There's sort of regret but it's not as heavy as you've relied to someone's prediction.
That's the reason if you're checking out other predictions and you have your own and you followed them and lose, you're going to blame yourself for doing that when in fact, you can also predict and have a better choice.

Not really that actually a better choice but this is something that choice you made.On the time that you would be losing then there would really be no regrets because you do know
that it was your pick and not theirs. Some are really just that too lazy on making their own analysis on which in the first hand, if they do have this kind of feeling then they shouldnt
have done this on being that too dependent into someones calls. Experts or professionals wont really be asking any sub fees or even bothering themselves on making some group
for some tips and betting choices or predictions in exchange with those fees. They are already making money, then why would accept pennies? Cheesy

Those that are lazy to make their own picks, I don't know if they're genius or just lazy at all. Because once the copied picks they've got from those experts made them money, that's easy. But if they make nothing out of it then that means that they did a wrong choice and decision.
It varies per situation I guess and whatever works for you should be done but I'd always pick my own pick than relying on someone's betting choice and tip.

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Quote from: terrific on February 20, 2024, 06:51:41 PM

Quote from: Quidat on February 20, 2024, 06:15:29 PM

Quote from: terrific on February 20, 2024, 05:56:18 PM

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Yes, it is what exactly I have said. You only worry about yourself and you'll not regret it because you lose. There's sort of regret but it's not as heavy as you've relied to someone's prediction.
That's the reason if you're checking out other predictions and you have your own and you followed them and lose, you're going to blame yourself for doing that when in fact, you can also predict and have a better choice.

Not really that actually a better choice but this is something that choice you made.On the time that you would be losing then there would really be no regrets because you do know
that it was your pick and not theirs. Some are really just that too lazy on making their own analysis on which in the first hand, if they do have this kind of feeling then they shouldnt
have done this on being that too dependent into someones calls. Experts or professionals wont really be asking any sub fees or even bothering themselves on making some group
for some tips and betting choices or predictions in exchange with those fees. They are already making money, then why would accept pennies? Cheesy

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Quote from: oktana on February 20, 2024, 06:55:09 PM

Quote from: jossiel on February 20, 2024, 06:07:05 PM

It's not the best way because if you don't have that capital, you see how it is going to be, you'll not be able to. But if you have some small amounts and they're spare, you can invest to their bankroll and be with the casino and win through house edge against the gamblers.

While your point may be valid, understand the difference between the best way and the easiest way. Assuming you have all the money needed, the best way to make the money is by opening the casino. But if you don’t have the money to launch a casino, you have to go for the easier way due to your hinderances. You see?

Yes sir, I understand.

If it's about making money and I have money needed. I won't open a casino, it sounds easy and profitable but it's too hectic.

And that is because with all of the competition against the big casinos right now, it's like a saturated market although there's a lot of money really on this industry but I've got something better to use with that capital if I have.

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Quote from: terrific on February 20, 2024, 06:51:41 PM

Yes, it is what exactly I have said. You only worry about yourself and you'll not regret it because you lose. There's sort of regret but it's not as heavy as you've relied to someone's prediction.
That's the reason if you're checking out other predictions and you have your own and you followed them and lose, you're going to blame yourself for doing that when in fact, you can also predict and have a better choice.

Indeed. When we gamble or bet with our won prediction, we won't blame other people at least. We may evaluate our own ways, that will be good to do. If we rely on other people prediction, we will never evaluate ourselves but only blames others. Evaluating makes us having better way in predicting or in gambling for the future.

Another matter, we will be proud with ourselves when we gamble and win with our own prediction. But if we gamble with other people's prediction, we won't be proud because we win due to the help from other people.

In conclusion, it is important to have own prediction. It can show how good our knowledge and experience for the game. We will never know this if we always depend on other people's predictions.

We both agree that it's best to have our own predictions because you'll never know how good you are if you don't try.
That is why you need to check your predictions too if they're good enough and maybe from there, you'll see that you have the potential that you'd definitely have to go on through it as you make them.

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The experts are usually ‘in the know’ when it comes to sporting events so you don’t get caught off guard with someone being injured or out for whatever reason. That doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll always be right, but I can see why people follow them. Personally, I’d rather be responsible for my own destiny, but to each their own.

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Quote from: terrific on February 20, 2024, 06:51:41 PM

Yes, it is what exactly I have said. You only worry about yourself and you'll not regret it because you lose. There's sort of regret but it's not as heavy as you've relied to someone's prediction.
That's the reason if you're checking out other predictions and you have your own and you followed them and lose, you're going to blame yourself for doing that when in fact, you can also predict and have a better choice.

Indeed. When we gamble or bet with our won prediction, we won't blame other people at least. We may evaluate our own ways, that will be good to do. If we rely on other people prediction, we will never evaluate ourselves but only blames others. Evaluating makes us having better way in predicting or in gambling for the future.

Another matter, we will be proud with ourselves when we gamble and win with our own prediction. But if we gamble with other people's prediction, we won't be proud because we win due to the help from other people.

In conclusion, it is important to have own prediction. It can show how good our knowledge and experience for the game. We will never know this if we always depend on other people's predictions.

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Quote from: oktana on February 20, 2024, 05:43:06 PM

Quote from: jossiel on February 19, 2024, 07:47:38 PM

Gambling isn't an investment but if you take part with those bankrolls investment, you are investing on the casino and you're with them.

But if you gamble alone, you're the customer and gambler where they are earning.

The best way to invest in gambling is really by owning the store or company. To start, you will need a lot of month though but eventually, you’ll be able to pay winners from the money others lose. Imagine the company that drake lost $1 million to (I know it isn’t always the case).

It's not the best way because if you don't have that capital, you see how it is going to be, you'll not be able to. But if you have some small amounts and they're spare, you can invest to their bankroll and be with the casino and win through house edge against the gamblers.

While your point may be valid, understand the difference between the best way and the easiest way. Assuming you have all the money needed, the best way to make the money is by opening the casino. But if you don’t have the money to launch a casino, you have to go for the easier way due to your hinderances. You see?

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Quote from: Quidat on February 20, 2024, 06:15:29 PM

Quote from: terrific on February 20, 2024, 05:56:18 PM

With our own picks and predictions, it's good to see that we're winning with them. But if we're losing, there's also no heartbreak because it came from us.
Unlike with the predictions and choices of these experts as they say, there's a heartbreak whenever we're going to lose even the amount of money is just a bit. Because what matters there is how you have decided and if it's worth it or not that you have listened and followed to that prediction.

The the goodness if you are the ones who do make out such bet and not came from other people is that on the time that you would be losing up a certain bet, then there would be no sense of regret.Unlike when you are really making out bets basing into those so-called experts and ended up on losing then you would really be definitely be having that kind of regret or impact
towards your emotions since you've been betting basing up on others calls on which i dont really see it for it to be worth since we can really be able to make up on our own.
Making up some research and analysis wont really be that hard specially if you are knowledgeable into a certain sport. You cant really just that make yourself having those guarantees on having
that sure win but at least you are basing up with your own choice.

Yes, it is what exactly I have said. You only worry about yourself and you'll not regret it because you lose. There's sort of regret but it's not as heavy as you've relied to someone's prediction.
That's the reason if you're checking out other predictions and you have your own and you followed them and lose, you're going to blame yourself for doing that when in fact, you can also predict and have a better choice.

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Quote from: terrific on February 20, 2024, 05:56:18 PM

Quote from: 2Pizza410000BTC on February 20, 2024, 05:52:48 PM

I never trust the predictions of gambling experts, I always participate in gambling with my own predictions. I don't have any trouble accepting it if I lose a prediction I participate in, but I have a hard time accepting it if I lose a prediction made by someone else, so it's always better to make predictions on my own. And even if you lose there, you still have a lot to learn in life. You should not depend on anyone on the path of life, it is always better to try to walk on your own feet.

With our own picks and predictions, it's good to see that we're winning with them. But if we're losing, there's also no heartbreak because it came from us.
Unlike with the predictions and choices of these experts as they say, there's a heartbreak whenever we're going to lose even the amount of money is just a bit. Because what matters there is how you have decided and if it's worth it or not that you have listened and followed to that prediction.

The the goodness if you are the ones who do make out such bet and not came from other people is that on the time that you would be losing up a certain bet, then there would be no sense of regret.Unlike when you are really making out bets basing into those so-called experts and ended up on losing then you would really be definitely be having that kind of regret or impact
towards your emotions since you've been betting basing up on others calls on which i dont really see it for it to be worth since we can really be able to make up on our own.
Making up some research and analysis wont really be that hard specially if you are knowledgeable into a certain sport. You cant really just that make yourself having those guarantees on having
that sure win but at least you are basing up with your own choice.

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Quote from: nullama on February 20, 2024, 04:35:14 AM

Quote from: jossiel on February 19, 2024, 07:47:38 PM

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Gambling isn't an investment but if you take part with those bankrolls investment, you are investing on the casino and you're with them.

But if you gamble alone, you're the customer and gambler where they are earning.

~snip~
Although this takes time but this is more of an assured way for you to be an expert.

Yeah, you're spot on.

The thing is that a lot of people believe the idea that a casino is a sure way of making money.

It definitely is not.

You can of course win some money, and some few people actually have managed to win big in casinos.

But the reality is that the vast majority have lost more than what they have won.

It's still a fun thing to do if you keep things under control though.

Yeah, I still get that a lot when people think that they can make easy and quick money with gambling. But little did they know, they'll be the one that shall be taken their money from by the casino.

That reasoning is wrong and they have to realize that once they've lost a lot.

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Quote from: jossiel on February 19, 2024, 07:47:38 PM

Gambling isn't an investment but if you take part with those bankrolls investment, you are investing on the casino and you're with them.

But if you gamble alone, you're the customer and gambler where they are earning.

The best way to invest in gambling is really by owning the store or company. To start, you will need a lot of month though but eventually, you’ll be able to pay winners from the money others lose. Imagine the company that drake lost $1 million to (I know it isn’t always the case).

It's not the best way because if you don't have that capital, you see how it is going to be, you'll not be able to. But if you have some small amounts and they're spare, you can invest to their bankroll and be with the casino and win through house edge against the gamblers.

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Quote from: 2Pizza410000BTC on February 20, 2024, 05:52:48 PM

I never trust the predictions of gambling experts, I always participate in gambling with my own predictions. I don't have any trouble accepting it if I lose a prediction I participate in, but I have a hard time accepting it if I lose a prediction made by someone else, so it's always better to make predictions on my own. And even if you lose there, you still have a lot to learn in life. You should not depend on anyone on the path of life, it is always better to try to walk on your own feet.

With our own picks and predictions, it's good to see that we're winning with them. But if we're losing, there's also no heartbreak because it came from us.
Unlike with the predictions and choices of these experts as they say, there's a heartbreak whenever we're going to lose even the amount of money is just a bit. Because what matters there is how you have decided and if it's worth it or not that you have listened and followed to that prediction.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on December 31, 2023, 12:04:38 PM

A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?

I never trust the predictions of gambling experts, I always participate in gambling with my own predictions. I don't have any trouble accepting it if I lose a prediction I participate in, but I have a hard time accepting it if I lose a prediction made by someone else, so it's always better to make predictions on my own. And even if you lose there, you still have a lot to learn in life. You should not depend on anyone on the path of life, it is always better to try to walk on your own feet.

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Quote from: oktana on February 19, 2024, 06:40:27 PM

Speaking about future and investments, I don’t think of gambling as an investment because even if it can be based on statistics, it mostly has to do with randomness. Why not invest into a business or a skill, or something that can bring you money over time instead of planning to gamble with all you have. The top gamblers actually have real jobs, even if it is providing PAID expert predictions like in this thread.

Even the so called aspects do make wrong predictions on their best days so, what then is the reliability about.
Yeah, there are those historical records about results, head to head, last 5 games result, away and home records, club specifics and all that but still, these are agreeably randomized as these histories are broken from time to time. It’s been known only to stand as long as it gets and nothing more.

Which is why you need to be open minded when gambling in general because the said expert isn’t the creator of the universe to know what will happen.

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Quote from: oktana on February 19, 2024, 06:40:27 PM

Speaking about future and investments, I don’t think of gambling as an investment because even if it can be based on statistics, it mostly has to do with randomness.

Gambling isn't an investment but if you take part with those bankrolls investment, you are investing on the casino and you're with them.

But if you gamble alone, you're the customer and gambler where they are earning.

The best way to invest in gambling is really by owning the store or company. To start, you will need a lot of month though but eventually, you’ll be able to pay winners from the money others lose. Imagine the company that drake lost $1 million to (I know it isn’t always the case).

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Quote from: electronicash on February 18, 2024, 03:26:56 PM

when you are unsure of your prediction i guess the expert's opinion will matter. there are lots of tipsters on youtube and they include the experts on sports who were once champs. i guess it matters still since they know the sports very well.

i just recently followed an expert who also happens to be once upon a time a champion in the UFC. when he predicted Tuporia would beat Volkanovski, i eagerly listened to why and how and so i bet a relatively good amount for it since he is an underdog.

Yeah, same with what I mentioned as long as you spend time to also study how tipster pick their bet you will understand the possibility and potential that the share pick might win, just like what you said he's once a champion and he can analyze the game well, with that kind of ability he can give good insight with how the game/fight will proceed, though still not an assurance but can be used as basis when you are still in the process of finding your own pick.

It's worth noting that they are sharing thier pick according to their understanding, it's still your responsibility to catch up with how they analyze and how they came out in selecting it, you should also learn how to analyze on your own.

Quote from: nullama on February 20, 2024, 04:35:14 AM

Quote from: jossiel on February 19, 2024, 07:47:38 PM

~snip~
Gambling isn't an investment but if you take part with those bankrolls investment, you are investing on the casino and you're with them.

But if you gamble alone, you're the customer and gambler where they are earning.

~snip~
Although this takes time but this is more of an assured way for you to be an expert.

Yeah, you're spot on.

The thing is that a lot of people believe the idea that a casino is a sure way of making money.

It definitely is not.

You can of course win some money, and some few people actually have managed to win big in casinos.

But the reality is that the vast majority have lost more than what they have won.

It's still a fun thing to do if you keep things under control though.

Sure way to lose your money you mean? but kidding aside there are people who thinks that gambling is the short-cut way to make money that's why in their desperation they resort to paid tips and blindly follow those tipsters without knowing the game and the outcome mostly in the negative. Wrong impression put you in the wrong side of result that how mostly happened.

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Quote from: jossiel on February 19, 2024, 07:47:38 PM

~snip~
Gambling isn't an investment but if you take part with those bankrolls investment, you are investing on the casino and you're with them.

But if you gamble alone, you're the customer and gambler where they are earning.

~snip~
Although this takes time but this is more of an assured way for you to be an expert.

Yeah, you're spot on.

The thing is that a lot of people believe the idea that a casino is a sure way of making money.

It definitely is not.

You can of course win some money, and some few people actually have managed to win big in casinos.

But the reality is that the vast majority have lost more than what they have won.

It's still a fun thing to do if you keep things under control though.

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Quote from: oktana on February 19, 2024, 06:40:27 PM

Speaking about future and investments, I don’t think of gambling as an investment because even if it can be based on statistics, it mostly has to do with randomness.

Gambling isn't an investment but if you take part with those bankrolls investment, you are investing on the casino and you're with them.

But if you gamble alone, you're the customer and gambler where they are earning.

Quote from: oktana on February 19, 2024, 06:40:27 PM

Why not invest into a business or a skill, or something that can bring you money over time instead of planning to gamble with all you have. The top gamblers actually have real jobs, even if it is providing PAID expert predictions like in this thread.

Although this takes time but this is more of an assured way for you to be an expert.

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