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Quote from: Baki202 on February 04, 2024, 02:18:01 PM

Quote from: magneto on February 04, 2024, 12:51:45 AM

I have seen tipsters that are consistently profitable.

Most experts who claim that they know the game inside out and have certainty in the result of each game is lying to you. Most profitable tipsters that I've come across do not proclaim this, but rather place bets on +EV propositions that over time accumulate to a profit of many betting units.

That said, don't go out there and blindly pay for a tipping service. Make sure that they have a verifiable edge and track record first.

I gamble a lot but when it comes to people who show off their wins I don't usually believe them because their wins don't look real to me even as much as I gamble I still lose but just that as a gambler I don't want to give up despite the losing but them they will keep showing slips of wins and am sure that most of those things are edited slips just to get people to there channels. and if you gamble well you will know that the majority of those guys are fraudsters nothing they will tell me. because how will someone be constantly winning every time a game is played? it is not possible no matter how good you are while you are predicting. and that is how a lot of people are deceived into even paying people to get predictions, so for does of us who gamble a lot we need to be smart. I know how desperate people are because they want to win, understanding the nature of what you going to do should be the first thing you think about so that you don't complain.

You don't because that was not the real experience you have. Indeed, some gamblers are used to manipulating others and think that gambling makes them rich by showing a lot of money which is not their real winnings. We've seen this on YouTube, even not a gambler showing this to the public, and innocent people got into it. If we analyze carefully, if these experts say that their prediction is right and working, they are not multibillionaires but they are not. If that is true, we were never supposed to see them live in order to hide their identity and for security reasons but they did.

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Quote from: maydna on February 05, 2024, 05:42:42 AM

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That's a very good argument.

Anyone selling you data or any kind of signal or whatever, clearly is not making money from their thing.

Otherwise they would just keep quiet and continue making money with it.

And if we obey their wishes, we will be the ones who suffer losses because we cannot win the game. We can no longer analyze and only rely on these "experts" to be able to place bets. Meanwhile, we also don't know whether they are truly "experts" in analyzing or just bragging about their abilities, which may not be very good compared to our abilities. They will continue to make money from the people they have successfully deceived, so they will never stop looking for their targets because they believe that they can get new targets. They believed there would be more people they could deceive with their abilities.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on February 04, 2024, 12:03:59 PM

- There are no perfect predictors in gambling. It's even possible if he gets lucky at gambling. I can even simulate where he would place a bet in a casino, gambling in a physical casino. But in an online casino, I can't do that because we don't see other players gambling online.

Because of the offline casinos, I experienced being with a gambler who knows if he is lucky that no matter what his bet is, he always wins. where it is clear that it is his or her lucky day to say.

Anyone who tells you he is a perfect predictor is a lair and only wants to take advantage of you, and the person in question might not even have a good record of wins, the best thing is to believe in yourself to avoid any form of drama, because people that can even turn you to an addict because they will always make every loss look like its a mistake and you continue to bet and bet until maybe you ran out of funds. I don't rep physical casinos i would rather play on my online casino in the sense that nobody knows whether you're gambling or not. and most importantly when I win only a few of my friends will even know, for security reasons. either online or physically any day you are winning your luck will surely come for you. saying you only win when it comes to physical casinos I don't think I will go with that statement and only a few people are even into physical casinos now since the world is changing.

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Quote from: maydna on February 05, 2024, 05:42:42 AM

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That's why people who are truly experts in analyzing and predicting won't tell the crowd. They prefer to save or share it with the people closest to them so they still have privacy and can do other things. They also don't want any reputation because according to them, it doesn't mean anything and is just a reputation that can be lost in an instant. These are the ones who can make money from gambling and even use it to meet their daily needs.

Yes, they might lose because of mistakes in analyzing, and that is still within reasonable limits because their analysis is also not perfect. And when they bet, they place it secretly and don't tell anyone because they don't want to hear that anyone will blame them because their analysis is wrong.

That's a very good argument.

Anyone selling you data or any kind of signal or whatever, clearly is not making money from their thing.

Otherwise they would just keep quiet and continue making money with it.

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Quote from: Fredomago on February 04, 2024, 01:45:01 PM

Quote from: maydna on February 04, 2024, 01:27:05 PM

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Those people who are manifesting from this kind of skills will simply play and enjoy, they will not going to broadcast as like to your perception they will value their privacy, those so called experts who are sharing their picks most of them are just aiming to earn, maybe there are some who can generate good outcomes but not always going to happen.

There are times that they'll going to lose and for those who are paying they lose twice, the money that they pay for the pick and the money that they use for the bet, better to bet using your own knowledge and understanding instead of leaning to those so-called experts.

That's why people who are truly experts in analyzing and predicting won't tell the crowd. They prefer to save or share it with the people closest to them so they still have privacy and can do other things. They also don't want any reputation because according to them, it doesn't mean anything and is just a reputation that can be lost in an instant. These are the ones who can make money from gambling and even use it to meet their daily needs.

Yes, they might lose because of mistakes in analyzing, and that is still within reasonable limits because their analysis is also not perfect. And when they bet, they place it secretly and don't tell anyone because they don't want to hear that anyone will blame them because their analysis is wrong.

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Quote from: magneto on February 04, 2024, 12:51:45 AM

I have seen tipsters that are consistently profitable.

Most experts who claim that they know the game inside out and have certainty in the result of each game is lying to you. Most profitable tipsters that I've come across do not proclaim this, but rather place bets on +EV propositions that over time accumulate to a profit of many betting units.

That said, don't go out there and blindly pay for a tipping service. Make sure that they have a verifiable edge and track record first.

I gamble a lot but when it comes to people who show off their wins I don't usually believe them because their wins don't look real to me even as much as I gamble I still lose but just that as a gambler I don't want to give up despite the losing but them they will keep showing slips of wins and am sure that most of those things are edited slips just to get people to there channels. and if you gamble well you will know that the majority of those guys are fraudsters nothing they will tell me. because how will someone be constantly winning every time a game is played? it is not possible no matter how good you are while you are predicting. and that is how a lot of people are deceived into even paying people to get predictions, so for does of us who gamble a lot we need to be smart. I know how desperate people are because they want to win, understanding the nature of what you going to do should be the first thing you think about so that you don't complain.

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Quote from: maydna on February 04, 2024, 01:27:05 PM

Quote from: wendty on February 04, 2024, 12:09:28 PM

I do not trust any experts and this applies not only to gambling as even if someone has received an expert title for his past predictions it does not mean that his future predictions will be 100% correct. As we can see people are often wrong, so when making any decisions based on someone else's opinion, keep in mind that all financial risks are borne by you, not the expert you listened to. He bears only reputational risks.

It's good if you don't trust any expert because when we are online, we won't know how good an unknown person is when they say they are an expert in predicting matches. There is no prediction that can be accurate in guessing a match, especially since in the match, there will be changes or surprises from each team that can change the direction of the match. It will make the predictions of those who call themselves experts unable to win. Those who are experts don't want to say they are experts because this concerns their privacy, especially if many people know that they are experts; they will line up at their houses to ask for their predictions. That will make him lose his privacy in doing other things.

Those people who are manifesting from this kind of skills will simply play and enjoy, they will not going to broadcast as like to your perception they will value their privacy, those so called experts who are sharing their picks most of them are just aiming to earn, maybe there are some who can generate good outcomes but not always going to happen.

There are times that they'll going to lose and for those who are paying they lose twice, the money that they pay for the pick and the money that they use for the bet, better to bet using your own knowledge and understanding instead of leaning to those so-called experts.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on February 04, 2024, 12:03:59 PM

- There are no perfect predictors in gambling. It's even possible if he gets lucky at gambling. I can even simulate where he would place a bet in a casino, gambling in a physical casino. But in an online casino, I can't do that because we don't see other players gambling online.

Because of the offline casinos, I experienced being with a gambler who knows if he is lucky that no matter what his bet is, he always wins. where it is clear that it is his or her lucky day to say.

Gambling has no such people, if not every gambler would have been in their doorstep seeking for predicting help. It's a matter of daily results, and it could differ. Nobody is able to know if his game would play in their favor, the player only gets lucky at the end of the game. Those who listen to others, who claim to be experts are actually not being professional in gambling. It only makes the gambler to lose more money. Imagine if the predictions of the guy who met Op's friends where right, he would have taken a share of the money. Or if his friends paid the self-proclaimed expert some funds before he handed them out his predictions, it would have been extra loss of money to the gambler. Depending on our predicting strength, rewards the gambler the full amount of money allocated to him as a winner. He wouldn't have to share the money with someone else.

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Quote from: wendty on February 04, 2024, 12:09:28 PM

I do not trust any experts and this applies not only to gambling as even if someone has received an expert title for his past predictions it does not mean that his future predictions will be 100% correct. As we can see people are often wrong, so when making any decisions based on someone else's opinion, keep in mind that all financial risks are borne by you, not the expert you listened to. He bears only reputational risks.

It's good if you don't trust any expert because when we are online, we won't know how good an unknown person is when they say they are an expert in predicting matches. There is no prediction that can be accurate in guessing a match, especially since in the match, there will be changes or surprises from each team that can change the direction of the match. It will make the predictions of those who call themselves experts unable to win. Those who are experts don't want to say they are experts because this concerns their privacy, especially if many people know that they are experts; they will line up at their houses to ask for their predictions. That will make him lose his privacy in doing other things.

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Quote from: oktana on February 02, 2024, 07:19:23 PM

It’s not just the money you pay to them that is the problem, it is also the fact that you’re paying money to likely lose money. It doesn’t matter if the predictions are given to you free of charge or a subscription, when you stake your money with any prediction (yours or that of a supposed gambling expert), make peace with yourself that you’ve lost. Because no matter what, the probability of losing can’t be denied its place.

A good statement, actually and basically whoever you trust that leads to the level of opportunity at the end of the prediction the key is that you must be able to agree or make peace with yourself that whatever the result we must be able to be a responsible gambler to minimize the possibility of emotion or disappointment. But on the other hand I think it is very difficult to apply this kind of understanding and acceptance if basically they do everything they can to get a win such as by contacting or going to the end that is considered trustworthy, because with this action it is certain that they are one of the gamblers who are "difficult to accept defeat" because their priority or main focus is winning so this is what makes it difficult to be a responsible gambler, This all depends on their understanding of the world of gambling, especially about the difficulty of winning because it always depends on luck, and that means you will be more likely to be responsible if you basically have the right understanding of the concept of gambling.

All matters with acceptance towards self because you wont really be able to trust someone if you arent that get convinced. If the time comes or a moment that someone do really convince you on trusting them with their picks then it do basically means that they had convinced you on believing on what you do see on your eyes. You cant just that make yourself follow someone blindly just because of some recommendations but well there might be people who really is but this is really unlikely. In overall, its really up to you whether you would really be following someone or not when it comes into their predictions or not.
You arent forced on doing so, this is why on the time that you do decide on following them then it would be your choice.

For me then i wont really be loving on trying out to follow those so called experts. I would really be making my own bets on which im the one would really be choosing up
on where it would really be that depending with my own analysis. There's no thrill that you would really be following someone when you do make out bets.
Its always better that you would be making on your own.

Yes, but it cannot be denied that there are always some people who are too confident in people who are called prediction experts in anything, especially gambling. You mentioned something in detail, that's good, but maybe this is a context that is quite simple to understand. that if indeed anyone does not believe in people who are called experts then it is clear that they will also prefer to do things that are in accordance with their own beliefs. In this case it really comes back to each person's perspective and beliefs, there is absolutely no compulsion to follow the way that other people do by going to experts just to get a win, basically something that other people think is important is not always It is important for us because everyone has their own beliefs which are generated from their own considerations.

On the other hand, I also agree with you and I will not be too blind in gambling activities because for me this is nothing more than entertainment to fill my free time, especially when I feel bored, so this reduces my seriousness in gambling and makes me never think. to the point of doing anything just to win, for me gambling is nothing more than a game of luck because there is no certainty whatsoever at the end of the session.

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Quote from: Renampun on February 04, 2024, 12:28:38 PM

it is impossible for anyone to be able to predict the outcome of a match at any time accurately unless he or she has foresight or is a match-fixing mafia.
make every prediction that appears just as a consideration, there is no point in continuing it and trusting the prediction results 100%.
remember, it is your money, don't lose because of other people's decisions or their predictions, you are the one who has to make the decision.

Yeah it’s true, the highest winning rate that I see with huge number of bets is 60 to 70% at best. Only handful of users manage to get higher winning rate percentage and most them is using some trick such as taking advantage on delay broadcast and update of score and other kind of betting trick.

There’s a lot of factors that can affect the result of game so it’s really impossible to predict accurately any matches by just relying on stats. I believe arbitrage betting is the only 100% guaranteed win on sportsbetting because it’s literally taking advantage on the error placement of odds by bookmaker.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on December 31, 2023, 12:04:38 PM

A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?

I am just a prediction from gambling experts for my own consideration, it is impossible for anyone to be able to predict the outcome of a match at any time accurately unless he or she has foresight or is a match-fixing mafia.
make every prediction that appears just as a consideration, there is no point in continuing it and trusting the prediction results 100%.
remember, it is your money, don't lose because of other people's decisions or their predictions, you are the one who has to make the decision.

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Quote from: TopSportsCappers on February 04, 2024, 12:08:14 PM

You should always have a bankroll that you play with and bet 1% to 3% of your bankroll on a game. Also if you're going to use services like that make sure that there picks are monitored by an independent third party.

But it is not guaranteed even there's an independent third party. But I agree having that kind of percentage as a bankroll because you'll safe with that amount even if you lose them.

Quote from: wendty on February 04, 2024, 12:09:28 PM

I do not trust any experts and this applies not only to gambling as even if someone has received an expert title for his past predictions it does not mean that his future predictions will be 100% correct.

It's different with other industries when we say that they're experts. But there's no other experts predicting futures other than gambling, are there? Like fortune tellers? They're the same as with gambling IMO.

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Quote from: magneto on February 04, 2024, 12:51:45 AM

I have seen tipsters that are consistently profitable.

Most experts who claim that they know the game inside out and have certainty in the result of each game is lying to you. Most profitable tipsters that I've come across do not proclaim this, but rather place bets on +EV propositions that over time accumulate to a profit of many betting units.

That said, don't go out there and blindly pay for a tipping service. Make sure that they have a verifiable edge and track record first.

Sharing the prediction was the huge thing,because one gambler may learn that experience by doing many games.Even he may loss the huge amount of money in the gambling site,the return gift was the experience from the gambling site.The gambler who had huge experience will do the new one like getting some good tips for sharing experience.The gambler who received the tips must do the accept of giving tips to the experienced gambler.The gamblers who was new to the gambling site can use the tips service by the experienced gambler.They should not ask the experienced gambler to share tips for free until they are very close friends to you.

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I do not trust any experts and this applies not only to gambling as even if someone has received an expert title for his past predictions it does not mean that his future predictions will be 100% correct. As we can see people are often wrong, so when making any decisions based on someone else's opinion, keep in mind that all financial risks are borne by you, not the expert you listened to. He bears only reputational risks.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on December 31, 2023, 12:04:38 PM

A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?

You should always have a bankroll that you play with and bet 1% to 3% of your bankroll on a game. Also if you're going to use services like that make sure that there picks are monitored by an independent third party.

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- There are no perfect predictors in gambling. It's even possible if he gets lucky at gambling. I can even simulate where he would place a bet in a casino, gambling in a physical casino. But in an online casino, I can't do that because we don't see other players gambling online.

Because of the offline casinos, I experienced being with a gambler who knows if he is lucky that no matter what his bet is, he always wins. where it is clear that it is his or her lucky day to say.

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Quote from: imamusma on February 04, 2024, 11:32:46 AM

Logically, if someone can guarantee victory in a gambling game, why doesn't he just do it himself. Whatever the reasons put forward to invite other people, if their background guarantees victory, in my opinion it is fraud. Apart from that, if there is someone who can guarantee victory in a gambling game, it means that person is the one who created the application, predictions are just predictions, nothing more than that. In general, whatever form of gambling game, no one can provide a 100% guarantee that the prediction is correct. Only a few strategies have been developed based on the experience of other bettors, otherwise we cannot believe in the chances of winning that are offered.

That's what I was thinking, if they claim that they are gambling experts, why don't they enrich themselves? Why do they have to look for people and look for places to promote themselves and make money from other people? To be honest, I don't really believe in gambling experts, even though they are. Many of my friends say there are gambling experts who are clever and often share betting tips but I never follow them because again it all depends on luck.

Everyone can make predictions and the possibility of being right in their predictions does not mean he is a gambling expert, sometimes I gamble, play in several games, often win, never think that I am a gambling expert, but it is more about luck, nothing more than that. , after all, how can we trust someone with our money to bet with predictions that are not derived from our own analysis, personally I would rather lose with the results of my own predictions than lose with someone else's prediction, it would definitely be a bit disappointing if I lost because I trusted the gambling expert and it's true that there is no 100% guarantee that the prediction will be correct. Wink

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Logically, if someone can guarantee victory in a gambling game, why doesn't he just do it himself. Whatever the reasons put forward to invite other people, if their background guarantees victory, in my opinion it is fraud. Apart from that, if there is someone who can guarantee victory in a gambling game, it means that person is the one who created the application, predictions are just predictions, nothing more than that. In general, whatever form of gambling game, no one can provide a 100% guarantee that the prediction is correct. Only a few strategies have been developed based on the experience of other bettors, otherwise we cannot believe in the chances of winning that are offered.

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Quote from: magneto on February 04, 2024, 12:51:45 AM

I have seen tipsters that are consistently profitable.

Most experts who claim that they know the game inside out and have certainty in the result of each game is lying to you. Most profitable tipsters that I've come across do not proclaim this, but rather place bets on +EV propositions that over time accumulate to a profit of many betting units.

That said, don't go out there and blindly pay for a tipping service. Make sure that they have a verifiable edge and track record first.

Yes, let's avoid those people who are taking money for such a service. It's a prediction which ain't 100 percent accurate so why do we have to pay for that?
Also, this might help to reduce the number of scammers who do this service out there, especially in Telegram. They keep on coming or creating new names because they know there are still people who fall victim to their scam attempts.
If no one is patronizing these shitty services then I bet they will be reduced to a number that we won't see them frequently anymore. Up until now, my Telegram account has been filled with those scammers. I simply joined a sports group with gamblers sharing their picks and then suddenly I received a lot of PMs from different people which I think are just a group of scammers who are trying to scam.
I think even sports insiders can make a wrong pick, I mean, we have seen a lot of sports games where the underdog wins or the unexpected team with lots of injured stars can still win a game using their bench. So, there's no telling where a game will end up, no one can perfectly predict what the outcome will be.

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