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Quote from: EluguHcman on December 31, 2023, 11:04:38 AM

A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?

Your illustration already answered it all but there are professional gamblers and by this I mean people who gamble for a living and most of these persons are always to busy and might not have that luxury of time to be thy activate with social media but it might be also possible that you might have them on social media this days especially since there are other options for them to earn from social media and that’s an extra income for them except that, I don’t think a professional gambler would even have the time to come confront you to play a certain game and give them commissions.

And just incase you’re getting any prediction site mostly on telegram with claims of giving you 100% accurate games and require you to give them a commission please run without hesitation as it might be a likely scam

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Quote from: goaldigger on December 31, 2023, 12:49:47 PM

If that predictions is based on a good analysis then you can try it, just make sure to have your own separate analysis for your peace of mind.
I just don't like the idea of sharing some profit to that self-claimed expert because that's your own money and you didn't sign to any contract for that kind of agreement. Well, I personally don't listen that much to any prediction though I tried watching to some streamers and heard their suggestions but still I make sure to confirm their prediction if i think its ok, then i'll place a bet too.

The thing is, you don't even know if their predictions are well analyzed, some of them just randomly pick games or copy predictions from somewhere, their main aim is to just attract traffic to their page or channel, but like you said it's always good to have your own prediction so you can properly checkmate the matches before playing, I normally watch some prediction videos on YouTube before making my selections but I don't just take their predictions like that, I always run my analysis first before making my decision

Yes, I think it's a good part to be involved in thinking when someone or a service offers such predictions or signals, the point is if everything comes without clarity in the sense that you feel that the signal offered is quite doubtful or unreasonable to believe then never be interested in it.
After all, gambling is a game that involves money and risk regardless of the chances of winning, so the main thing we have to pay attention to and consider is the risk even if for example you are a responsible gambler who is able to accept defeat with an open heart, but of course that doesn't mean we have to make decisions carelessly, getting a win is much more fun than experiencing a loss, so if you do have a way that you think is more likely to win then it's better to use your own way than relying on trust in others without knowing the clarity of the signal.

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Quote from: DaNNy001 on August 02, 2024, 01:53:36 AM

The thing is, you don't even know if their predictions are well analyzed, some of them just randomly pick games or copy predictions from somewhere, their main aim is to just attract traffic to their page or channel, but like you said it's always good to have your own prediction so you can properly checkmate the matches before playing, I normally watch some prediction videos on YouTube before making my selections but I don't just take their predictions like that, I always run my analysis first before making my decision

The fact that you don't know if your prediction is well analyzed, that is enough for you to stay away from predictions site because you won't be able to tell if it was well analyzed or not just according to what you said and you have actually made a very valid point for those who use prediction sites very few are able to actually Gets the accuracy that will give them the opportunity to be able to win. Majority of websites now only concerned about the traffic or to scam people with their fake reviews all over the websites. The best thing is to do your prediction yourself. If you don't want to do the prediction, it is better to just let them slide for the day, instead of having too much hope On this site that is not even worth it. I find it hard to believe that people actually go to the extent of getting predictions from YouTube channels. The best you can do is to get ideas from other peoples predictions and not copying their own, but it doesn't mean that you should fully do what they have predicted, if you don't want to lose your bet.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on December 31, 2023, 11:04:38 AM

A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?

I think your story is the best answer to your question. There are a huge number of experts, but expertise does not mean that a person can make money on forecasts. I think that there are people who feel the situation better than others, but I do not believe that there are experts who accurately predict victories in sports matches or in any other types of bets

For me, laziness and the lack of self-belief are the main reasons why people would be turning to gambling predictions from external sources, especially with sports betting. But I can still pardon those who are willing to gamble but do not have the time to do the forecast due to important reasons, they can turn to experts to benefit easily from them but they must ensure that they did thorough research before they entrust their money with any expert's prediction, especially the one's that are premium.

Gambling is easy to learn and the information needed is always readily available on the internet if we want it. We just need to be reasonable with the interpretations and we will be winning often without stressing ourselves with external sources that will make us dependent on them.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 02, 2024, 02:28:05 AM

Quote from: DaNNy001 on August 02, 2024, 01:53:36 AM

Quote from: goaldigger on December 31, 2023, 12:49:47 PM

If that predictions is based on a good analysis then you can try it, just make sure to have your own separate analysis for your peace of mind.
I just don't like the idea of sharing some profit to that self-claimed expert because that's your own money and you didn't sign to any contract for that kind of agreement. Well, I personally don't listen that much to any prediction though I tried watching to some streamers and heard their suggestions but still I make sure to confirm their prediction if i think its ok, then i'll place a bet too.

The thing is, you don't even know if their predictions are well analyzed, some of them just randomly pick games or copy predictions from somewhere, their main aim is to just attract traffic to their page or channel, but like you said it's always good to have your own prediction so you can properly checkmate the matches before playing, I normally watch some prediction videos on YouTube before making my selections but I don't just take their predictions like that, I always run my analysis first before making my decision

It's the safest way to practice better to gain knowledge from those who are sharing their picks and not just to blindly follow them, gamblers who wants to have some edge will surely analyze the situation before they release theyir money and place their bets, there are experienced gamblers who can give decent information though it's needed a thourough reveiw and your own analysis to give a better chance to your bets.

Gambling experts can always claim something but to prove it that's where the trick is coming, win or lose they can gain from those who support and follow them not for just for the paid subscriptions but more on the traffics and ads that they are gaining.

Yeah, it's your responsibility and it's on your shoulders. There is an old saying that goes like this: "You should try to learn from the mistakes of others, not your own".

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Quote from: DaNNy001 on August 02, 2024, 01:53:36 AM

Quote from: goaldigger on December 31, 2023, 12:49:47 PM

If that predictions is based on a good analysis then you can try it, just make sure to have your own separate analysis for your peace of mind.
I just don't like the idea of sharing some profit to that self-claimed expert because that's your own money and you didn't sign to any contract for that kind of agreement. Well, I personally don't listen that much to any prediction though I tried watching to some streamers and heard their suggestions but still I make sure to confirm their prediction if i think its ok, then i'll place a bet too.

The thing is, you don't even know if their predictions are well analyzed, some of them just randomly pick games or copy predictions from somewhere, their main aim is to just attract traffic to their page or channel, but like you said it's always good to have your own prediction so you can properly checkmate the matches before playing, I normally watch some prediction videos on YouTube before making my selections but I don't just take their predictions like that, I always run my analysis first before making my decision

It's the safest way to practice better to gain knowledge from those who are sharing their picks and not just to blindly follow them, gamblers who wants to have some edge will surely analyze the situation before they release theyir money and place their bets, there are experienced gamblers who can give decent information though it's needed a thourough reveiw and your own analysis to give a better chance to your bets.

Gambling experts can always claim something but to prove it that's where the trick is coming, win or lose they can gain from those who support and follow them not for just for the paid subscriptions but more on the traffics and ads that they are gaining.

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Quote from: DaNNy001 on August 02, 2024, 01:53:36 AM

Quote from: goaldigger on December 31, 2023, 12:49:47 PM

If that predictions is based on a good analysis then you can try it, just make sure to have your own separate analysis for your peace of mind.
I just don't like the idea of sharing some profit to that self-claimed expert because that's your own money and you didn't sign to any contract for that kind of agreement. Well, I personally don't listen that much to any prediction though I tried watching to some streamers and heard their suggestions but still I make sure to confirm their prediction if i think its ok, then i'll place a bet too.

The thing is, you don't even know if their predictions are well analyzed, some of them just randomly pick games or copy predictions from somewhere, their main aim is to just attract traffic to their page or channel, but like you said it's always good to have your own prediction so you can properly checkmate the matches before playing, I normally watch some prediction videos on YouTube before making my selections but I don't just take their predictions like that, I always run my analysis first before making my decision

You are a champion for that! It's essential to make your own mind beforehand with your own knowledge and experience, and only then make a move. It's better that way as you will improve upon it and be better next time.

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Quote from: goaldigger on December 31, 2023, 12:49:47 PM

If that predictions is based on a good analysis then you can try it, just make sure to have your own separate analysis for your peace of mind.
I just don't like the idea of sharing some profit to that self-claimed expert because that's your own money and you didn't sign to any contract for that kind of agreement. Well, I personally don't listen that much to any prediction though I tried watching to some streamers and heard their suggestions but still I make sure to confirm their prediction if i think its ok, then i'll place a bet too.

The thing is, you don't even know if their predictions are well analyzed, some of them just randomly pick games or copy predictions from somewhere, their main aim is to just attract traffic to their page or channel, but like you said it's always good to have your own prediction so you can properly checkmate the matches before playing, I normally watch some prediction videos on YouTube before making my selections but I don't just take their predictions like that, I always run my analysis first before making my decision

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You need to have that knowledge unless you are fully good in taking that big risk, just by relying with the share picks from that paid subscriptions and wait for whatever the result will be, and like what you said, there's no guarantee even how high you are paying for that subscriptions, gambling is a always accompanied by risk and luck it's up to your judgement what to take regarding to paid subscription from that so called experts who are sharing their picks.

Having knowledge in sport betting is a must whether they use prediction site or use their own analysis. But many people doesn't want to learn more about analysis so they just rely on the prediction site to pick their choice to place a bet. They must know that the prediction site can not always gives an accurate prediction so we don't have to rely on them. It is all about how you willing to use your money to pay the subscription services because if you think that the subscription fees is too high for you, you will not subscribe to their services instead will trying to learn more about the analysis.

Yes, there will be no guarantee to always have an accurate prediction on every match so we must understand that if we can not wins any money from the prediction, we are only waste our money to pay the subscription. But some people are willing to use the prediction site so we can not force them to leave the site.

I agree! The additional tools are only for a good analyst, who already knows what he is doing (mostly), there will never be a 100% on any bet, however, it's always viable and possible to work a little bit harder to get a better understanding of the odds that are against you or on your side.

There's nothing like 100% on a game that hasn't ended. Even if it have only 30 seconds remaining before the game ends, the gambler shouldn't decide until the whole game is decided. To add little to what you have said, one shouldn't be sure of the games he analysis until the games are settled.

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Some will never make let go in gambling until they make it up to the using the prediction sites over the influence on what they received from some of these platforms, we cannot also assumed that the prediction sites are not being accurate in some situations, but we cannot only have the assurance of having them up to task by hundred percent, some of the newbie gamblers often consult them for support and subscribe on their services, it works to an extent for some while some have benefited nothing from using some of these sites.

If you think about it, forecasting sites and influencers who require a subscription to their sports forecasting services are doing very well. After all, intermediaries always and in any business occupy the most advantageous position. They do not risk money, they receive money from other people. I also see any intermediaries risking only their reputation, but this is nonsense compared to money. And if they do not guess, then only gamblers suffer losses. That is why I do not use forecasts.

yes if we think in that direction, the ones who benefit are clearly the people who do business by selling their predictions to others, and in my opinion if the predictions are accurate and reliable it would be better to use them for yourself rather than promoting them to others. and if many gamblers subscribe to prediction sites or are required to subscribe to take advantage of predictions made by others and place them themselves, I assume that the gamblers who subscribe do not want to bother making their own predictions or at least learn to make predictions, or maybe they just want instant results without bothering to bet and take advantage of other people's predictions. this is not wrong if you intend to use this method, but most gamblers rely too much on and trust other people's predictions for each bet, and this cannot be justified, or is the wrong way of thinking. we all know and understand that the main factor in winning is luck, therefore it would be better to make your own predictions and learn to make them,

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Quote from: 348Judah on August 01, 2024, 06:12:30 AM

Some will never make let go in gambling until they make it up to the using the prediction sites over the influence on what they received from some of these platforms, we cannot also assumed that the prediction sites are not being accurate in some situations, but we cannot only have the assurance of having them up to task by hundred percent, some of the newbie gamblers often consult them for support and subscribe on their services, it works to an extent for some while some have benefited nothing from using some of these sites.

If you think about it, forecasting sites and influencers who require a subscription to their sports forecasting services are doing very well. After all, intermediaries always and in any business occupy the most advantageous position. They do not risk money, they receive money from other people. I also see any intermediaries risking only their reputation, but this is nonsense compared to money. And if they do not guess, then only gamblers suffer losses. That is why I do not use forecasts.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on December 31, 2023, 11:04:38 AM

A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

Expert you said?
I don't see anything of such in gambling because gambling is based on luck and regardless of how good you are in games analysis, it will still ball down to your luck to be able to win, so you should be very careful on the amount you stake on such bets, but still I will say that you should do alittle bit of your own analysis of the games before you bet on them.
Another thing you should know is that, for someone who is an expert how then he hasn't use same expertise to build a large amount of liquidity, instead of indirectly selling the sure predictions to you when he can make the bet himself and win the money 100%, so that should tell you something about the predicted games.

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I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

Good to read this part of the comments and happy that you did not bet those game at the end and you can see why I said above that you should make further personal analysis of those games before you bet on them, because you can't guarantee your winning, let say even if you want to risk money on such games let it not be above 0.00003 bitcoin when staking the bets, and you should make sure you bet on them in a cryptocurrency casino instead of fiat casinos.

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I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?

NO

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Some will never make let go in gambling until they make it up to the using the prediction sites over the influence on what they received from some of these platforms, we cannot also assumed that the prediction sites are not being accurate in some situations, but we cannot only have the assurance of having them up to task by hundred percent, some of the newbie gamblers often consult them for support and subscribe on their services, it works to an extent for some while some have benefited nothing from using some of these sites.

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on August 01, 2024, 01:08:34 AM

Myself I don't believe that somebody can know one particular thing all, and secondly we have to know that gambling is not skill we can apply so base on that note gambling is just a way of entertainment and on the process of participating on it almost every day you can acquire a more knowledge in gambling base on your frequent participation, but to concur that we have a specialist or expert in gambling I don't think that such thing exists.

Do you know the reason while I don't want to agree that expert can exist in gambling, is due to nobody has break a Guinness record base on gambling by wining almost what it gambles, it's obvious that gambling is a game of trial and I know quite well that in gambling you may think that a club you're sure of wining their counterpart will lose. So in circles of gambling anything can happen.

Yeah, those so called experts usually don't know too much anyway, so they are pretty much guessing most of the time.

I mean, if they charged a percentage of their wins, then yeah, that could be something interesting, but if they charge a flat fee?, no thanks.

That's the thing, they get to keep all the money, no matter what, and usually it is the gambler the one that loses.

On the moment that they do share up some tips and hints about on what you should pick and if it turns out to be that a win then they would really be boasting it up that they are experts
on which there are really those noobs who do really that get easily believed in regarding with those points on which they would really be getting fooled that they are experts just because of that one win
without even trying out to realize that they should at least check out those winning rate before deciding whether they would really be paying up for some subscription or not. It would really be just that too
dumb for someone who do only base up with a single win rather than on checking in overall winning on which it would really be normal that there would be people who do get easily fooled not
until they would really be experiencing some shit condition and made out some in depth research and realize that they are doing shit.

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on August 01, 2024, 01:08:34 AM

Myself I don't believe that somebody can know one particular thing all, and secondly we have to know that gambling is not skill we can apply so base on that note gambling is just a way of entertainment and on the process of participating on it almost every day you can acquire a more knowledge in gambling base on your frequent participation, but to concur that we have a specialist or expert in gambling I don't think that such thing exists.

Do you know the reason while I don't want to agree that expert can exist in gambling, is due to nobody has break a Guinness record base on gambling by wining almost what it gambles, it's obvious that gambling is a game of trial and I know quite well that in gambling you may think that a club you're sure of wining their counterpart will lose. So in circles of gambling anything can happen.

Yeah, those so called experts usually don't know too much anyway, so they are pretty much guessing most of the time.

I mean, if they charged a percentage of their wins, then yeah, that could be something interesting, but if they charge a flat fee?, no thanks.

That's the thing, they get to keep all the money, no matter what, and usually it is the gambler the one that loses.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on December 31, 2023, 11:04:38 AM

A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?

I think your story is the best answer to your question. There are a huge number of experts, but expertise does not mean that a person can make money on forecasts. I think that there are people who feel the situation better than others, but I do not believe that there are experts who accurately predict victories in sports matches or in any other types of bets

Often the difference in the way of playing sometimes affects a person's winning chances, not only getting direction from an expert, sometimes not 100% will completely get a win, it can also experience defeat, it all depends on the way the game is better in maintaining concentration in placing bets every time, if the slightest mistake then the loss that we will experience.

I still do believe that's it better not to rely on this type of information lead as if there is a loss ahead, you are going to be angry at the people who fed you this course of action, whereas when you do it yourself, it's better, in my opinion, to work around, see what went wrong, improve upon it and upon your reaction to it.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on December 31, 2023, 11:04:38 AM

A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?

I think your story is the best answer to your question. There are a huge number of experts, but expertise does not mean that a person can make money on forecasts. I think that there are people who feel the situation better than others, but I do not believe that there are experts who accurately predict victories in sports matches or in any other types of bets

Often the difference in the way of playing sometimes affects a person's winning chances, not only getting direction from an expert, sometimes not 100% will completely get a win, it can also experience defeat, it all depends on the way the game is better in maintaining concentration in placing bets every time, if the slightest mistake then the loss that we will experience.

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Myself I don't believe that somebody can know one particular thing all, and secondly we have to know that gambling is not skill we can apply so base on that note gambling is just a way of entertainment and on the process of participating on it almost every day you can acquire a more knowledge in gambling base on your frequent participation, but to concur that we have a specialist or expert in gambling I don't think that such thing exists.

Do you know the reason while I don't want to agree that expert can exist in gambling, is due to nobody has break a Guinness record base on gambling by wining almost what it gambles, it's obvious that gambling is a game of trial and I know quite well that in gambling you may think that a club you're sure of wining their counterpart will lose. So in circles of gambling anything can happen.

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Quote from: m2017 on July 31, 2024, 09:59:55 AM

Quote from: shivansps on July 31, 2024, 09:27:12 AM

There are a huge number of experts,

Pseudo-experts or fraudsters hiding under the guise of experts.

Quote from: shivansps on July 31, 2024, 09:27:12 AM

but expertise does not mean that a person can make money on forecasts.

Everything is just the opposite: if expertise implies the ability to monetize your knowledge and skills. If a person who calls himself an expert is not able to make money (based on his expertise, and not on fraud with other people's money that was given to a pseudo-expert), then he is not an expert at all.

That is literally where the bone of contention is held. If he can actually give a guaranteed predicted games, why don't him go make some money from the casino instead of the request that an individual has to pay him to give out the sure games as claimed expert but non.

I was yet to hear his expertise history in the news or seeing an audience testifying of his legitimate claims of being a gambling expert.
He actually failed at his demand of getting paid in the first place otherwise to prove himself, he would had given out the games for a trial at first to gain the trust.

He was just a suspect to me when I realized he could use such expert knowledge to bankrupt the casino with his excessive winnings so, why coming to me so has lost more than enough already to the casino in demand to get him paid before giving me a game as an expert he is.

Totally. That's a good question and a good way to find out Wink

If a person can't prove his profit being made out of his knowledge, then there is no point in copying that person, especially paying for that in the process.

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Quote from: m2017 on July 31, 2024, 09:59:55 AM

Quote from: shivansps on July 31, 2024, 09:27:12 AM

There are a huge number of experts,

Pseudo-experts or fraudsters hiding under the guise of experts.

Quote from: shivansps on July 31, 2024, 09:27:12 AM

but expertise does not mean that a person can make money on forecasts.

Everything is just the opposite: if expertise implies the ability to monetize your knowledge and skills. If a person who calls himself an expert is not able to make money (based on his expertise, and not on fraud with other people's money that was given to a pseudo-expert), then he is not an expert at all.

That is literally where the bone of contention is held. If he can actually give a guaranteed predicted games, why don't him go make some money from the casino instead of the request that an individual has to pay him to give out the sure games as claimed expert but non.

I was yet to hear his expertise history in the news or seeing an audience testifying of his legitimate claims of being a gambling expert.
He actually failed at his demand of getting paid in the first place otherwise to prove himself, he would had given out the games for a trial at first to gain the trust.

He was just a suspect to me when I realized he could use such expert knowledge to bankrupt the casino with his excessive winnings so, why coming to me so has lost more than enough already to the casino in demand to get him paid before giving me a game as an expert he is.

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