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April 23, 2017, 10:10:31 AM
Well... when you say it that way...



Makes perfect sense?
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April 23, 2017, 10:10:15 AM
I do believe in God the Creator of heaven and earth. I see from nature that God  manifest himself in living things and nor living things should we deny reality? That list we human being by looking at our nature should know that there is something greater than  our thought, soul and body that dwell inside and outside us. God is my source therefore I believe in him.
Today there is a science with which all are faced and there is no refutation of the teaching of science. All scientific conclusions are supported by evidence. But how can God exist from a scientific point of view? Can it still be considered that God is spirit or scientific, energy or power capable of creating and creating?

All science that explains where the universe and life comes from, is science theory. Science theory is something that is not known to be factual.

Since the universe is here, along with intelligence and life, whatever could cause these things to happen is God. If Big Bang Theory is proven to be the way that the universe came about, then Big Bang is God. So far, according to science, Big Bang is not known to be factual, or even to plausibly exist.

Cool
It is not necessary to think unfoundedly
that God is an explosion. It is
necessary to think a little more broadly
and to perceive everything, both
positive and negative energy as an
entire whole. God is a great power.

God is not big bang. But if big bang ever existed, God might be it, or at least working through it.

God, Himself, is beyond energy, although He has energy, and uses energy.

Cool

And your proof of this claim is where?

The proof is right here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Oh, that's right. You don't understand the proof. In addition, you would claim the proof isn't proof even if you understood. But what else can an ignorant, barbarous, unthinking person do? You fit right into the pattern you have built for yourself.

Cool

Not proof puddleduck.

Its only your silly assumptions.

Can you please provide proof?

It is as I said. You wouldn't accept the proof as proof if you understood it. Yet you can't show any scienti8fic rebuttal to the scientific proof. So, the proof stands, by you own admission - your non-rebuttal admission.

Cool

Just for you.......

BADecker's evidence in a nutshell......

Link 1
Machine like nature of the universe.
Cause and effect
Nations looking for God?
BADecker believes that all machines are ultimately the result of a god.

Link 2
Cause and effect

Link 3
Cause and effect

Link 4
Cause and effect

Cause and effect rebuttal
If cause and effect is proof of a god, then who made god? Was it god's god? And who made god's god? was it god's god's god? This is a cycle of infinity. This is no proof.
BADecker simply applies an assumption that  this a god. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC7Ttc9g1u8   

Machines like nature of the universe rebuttal
BADecker believes that machines need a maker and that maker has to be a god. The reality of this is that evolution has caused the changes. http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v481/n7381/full/nature10724.html   

BADecker then claims that this is only theory. The reality is that science is disproving/proving all theories  we (humans) have believed for years. That is the nature of science. For it to be tested by others. People like BADecker will continually use their same argument of assumptions to state there is no proof that god does not exist. The reality is that history has shown that early Vikings believed  "lightning flashed whenever Thor threw his hammer". Science has proven this incorrect.

Nations looking for god rebuttal
BADecker claims that people are looking for how the universe was made. This is true. However, BADecker then claims that because the answers are still not found, the answer must be a god. WRONG.... this is not proof. This is an assumption again on BADecker's part. Science is unlocking secrets every day. Religion is being disproven daily and BADecker continues to hold on to his mindless views.
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April 23, 2017, 10:07:21 AM
I do believe in God the Creator of heaven and earth. I see from nature that God  manifest himself in living things and nor living things should we deny reality? That list we human being by looking at our nature should know that there is something greater than  our thought, soul and body that dwell inside and outside us. God is my source therefore I believe in him.
Today there is a science with which all are faced and there is no refutation of the teaching of science. All scientific conclusions are supported by evidence. But how can God exist from a scientific point of view? Can it still be considered that God is spirit or scientific, energy or power capable of creating and creating?

All science that explains where the universe and life comes from, is science theory. Science theory is something that is not known to be factual.

Since the universe is here, along with intelligence and life, whatever could cause these things to happen is God. If Big Bang Theory is proven to be the way that the universe came about, then Big Bang is God. So far, according to science, Big Bang is not known to be factual, or even to plausibly exist.

Cool
It is not necessary to think unfoundedly
that God is an explosion. It is
necessary to think a little more broadly
and to perceive everything, both
positive and negative energy as an
entire whole. God is a great power.

God is not big bang. But if big bang ever existed, God might be it, or at least working through it.

God, Himself, is beyond energy, although He has energy, and uses energy.

Cool

And your proof of this claim is where?

The proof is right here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Oh, that's right. You don't understand the proof. In addition, you would claim the proof isn't proof even if you understood. But what else can an ignorant, barbarous, unthinking person do? You fit right into the pattern you have built for yourself.

Cool

Not proof puddleduck.

Its only your silly assumptions.

Can you please provide proof?

It is as I said. You wouldn't accept the proof as proof if you understood it. Yet you can't show any scienti8fic rebuttal to the scientific proof. So, the proof stands, by you own admission - your non-rebuttal admission.

Cool
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April 23, 2017, 09:52:02 AM
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April 23, 2017, 09:48:01 AM
I do believe in God the Creator of heaven and earth. I see from nature that God  manifest himself in living things and nor living things should we deny reality? That list we human being by looking at our nature should know that there is something greater than  our thought, soul and body that dwell inside and outside us. God is my source therefore I believe in him.
Today there is a science with which all are faced and there is no refutation of the teaching of science. All scientific conclusions are supported by evidence. But how can God exist from a scientific point of view? Can it still be considered that God is spirit or scientific, energy or power capable of creating and creating?

All science that explains where the universe and life comes from, is science theory. Science theory is something that is not known to be factual.

Since the universe is here, along with intelligence and life, whatever could cause these things to happen is God. If Big Bang Theory is proven to be the way that the universe came about, then Big Bang is God. So far, according to science, Big Bang is not known to be factual, or even to plausibly exist.

Cool
It is not necessary to think unfoundedly
that God is an explosion. It is
necessary to think a little more broadly
and to perceive everything, both
positive and negative energy as an
entire whole. God is a great power.

God is not big bang. But if big bang ever existed, God might be it, or at least working through it.

God, Himself, is beyond energy, although He has energy, and uses energy.

Cool

And your proof of this claim is where?

The proof is right here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Oh, that's right. You don't understand the proof. In addition, you would claim the proof isn't proof even if you understood. But what else can an ignorant, barbarous, unthinking person do? You fit right into the pattern you have built for yourself.

Cool

Not proof puddleduck.

Its only your silly assumptions.

Can you please provide proof?
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April 23, 2017, 09:42:03 AM
Yes,i believe in god.Just like air,we could not see it by our eyes but could feel it.We can feel god in many of our life situations.I have felt his presence many times when i was in desperate need of help.

How do you know it was god? We can prove that air is all around us but can't prove that there is god. Feelings like those cannot be taken as "evidences" because you can't examine them. What god? There are quite many gods out there....
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April 23, 2017, 09:23:02 AM
I do believe in God the Creator of heaven and earth. I see from nature that God  manifest himself in living things and nor living things should we deny reality? That list we human being by looking at our nature should know that there is something greater than  our thought, soul and body that dwell inside and outside us. God is my source therefore I believe in him.
Today there is a science with which all are faced and there is no refutation of the teaching of science. All scientific conclusions are supported by evidence. But how can God exist from a scientific point of view? Can it still be considered that God is spirit or scientific, energy or power capable of creating and creating?

All science that explains where the universe and life comes from, is science theory. Science theory is something that is not known to be factual.

Since the universe is here, along with intelligence and life, whatever could cause these things to happen is God. If Big Bang Theory is proven to be the way that the universe came about, then Big Bang is God. So far, according to science, Big Bang is not known to be factual, or even to plausibly exist.

Cool
It is not necessary to think unfoundedly
that God is an explosion. It is
necessary to think a little more broadly
and to perceive everything, both
positive and negative energy as an
entire whole. God is a great power.

God is not big bang. But if big bang ever existed, God might be it, or at least working through it.

God, Himself, is beyond energy, although He has energy, and uses energy.

Cool

And your proof of this claim is where?

The proof is right here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Oh, that's right. You don't understand the proof. In addition, you would claim the proof isn't proof even if you understood. But what else can an ignorant, barbarous, unthinking person do? You fit right into the pattern you have built for yourself.

Cool
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April 22, 2017, 09:56:19 PM
I do believe in God the Creator of heaven and earth. I see from nature that God  manifest himself in living things and nor living things should we deny reality? That list we human being by looking at our nature should know that there is something greater than  our thought, soul and body that dwell inside and outside us. God is my source therefore I believe in him.
Today there is a science with which all are faced and there is no refutation of the teaching of science. All scientific conclusions are supported by evidence. But how can God exist from a scientific point of view? Can it still be considered that God is spirit or scientific, energy or power capable of creating and creating?

All science that explains where the universe and life comes from, is science theory. Science theory is something that is not known to be factual.

Since the universe is here, along with intelligence and life, whatever could cause these things to happen is God. If Big Bang Theory is proven to be the way that the universe came about, then Big Bang is God. So far, according to science, Big Bang is not known to be factual, or even to plausibly exist.

Cool
It is not necessary to think unfoundedly
that God is an explosion. It is
necessary to think a little more broadly
and to perceive everything, both
positive and negative energy as an
entire whole. God is a great power.

God is not big bang. But if big bang ever existed, God might be it, or at least working through it.

God, Himself, is beyond energy, although He has energy, and uses energy.

Cool

And your proof of this claim is where?
legendary
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April 22, 2017, 01:38:10 PM
I do believe in God the Creator of heaven and earth. I see from nature that God  manifest himself in living things and nor living things should we deny reality? That list we human being by looking at our nature should know that there is something greater than  our thought, soul and body that dwell inside and outside us. God is my source therefore I believe in him.
Today there is a science with which all are faced and there is no refutation of the teaching of science. All scientific conclusions are supported by evidence. But how can God exist from a scientific point of view? Can it still be considered that God is spirit or scientific, energy or power capable of creating and creating?

All science that explains where the universe and life comes from, is science theory. Science theory is something that is not known to be factual.

Since the universe is here, along with intelligence and life, whatever could cause these things to happen is God. If Big Bang Theory is proven to be the way that the universe came about, then Big Bang is God. So far, according to science, Big Bang is not known to be factual, or even to plausibly exist.

Cool
It is not necessary to think unfoundedly
that God is an explosion. It is
necessary to think a little more broadly
and to perceive everything, both
positive and negative energy as an
entire whole. God is a great power.

God is not big bang. But if big bang ever existed, God might be it, or at least working through it.

God, Himself, is beyond energy, although He has energy, and uses energy.

Cool
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April 22, 2017, 01:09:09 PM
I do believe in God the Creator of heaven and earth. I see from nature that God  manifest himself in living things and nor living things should we deny reality? That list we human being by looking at our nature should know that there is something greater than  our thought, soul and body that dwell inside and outside us. God is my source therefore I believe in him.
Today there is a science with which all are faced and there is no refutation of the teaching of science. All scientific conclusions are supported by evidence. But how can God exist from a scientific point of view? Can it still be considered that God is spirit or scientific, energy or power capable of creating and creating?

All science that explains where the universe and life comes from, is science theory. Science theory is something that is not known to be factual.

Since the universe is here, along with intelligence and life, whatever could cause these things to happen is God. If Big Bang Theory is proven to be the way that the universe came about, then Big Bang is God. So far, according to science, Big Bang is not known to be factual, or even to plausibly exist.

Cool
It is not necessary to think unfoundedly
that God is an explosion. It is
necessary to think a little more broadly
and to perceive everything, both
positive and negative energy as an
entire whole. God is a great power.
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April 22, 2017, 12:52:48 PM
Yes,i believe in god.Just like air,we could not see it by our eyes but could feel it.We can feel god in many of our life situations.I have felt his presence many times when i was in desperate need of help.

Good for you dude. Though i'd prefer  a more realistic approach, it seems that there really are situations where in you get a realization that there is a god working to help us out in desperate dire situations. People can call it coincidence but there's nothing wrong with believing that there is someone who actually cares about what you're going through in your life.
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April 21, 2017, 04:45:28 PM
Everyone believes in God, some just suppress their knowledge of Him. I have felt his presence, many times. I can see intelligent design all around me

It's true but just people call God differently.
For some people, God is ''nature'' or ''Heaven'' or some universal force etc.
Some people believe in heavenly fortune or something else.
So, it's common for all of us to believe in something what is more powerful or above us.
It's part of human DNA.
We can't escape from reality that we are created beings.
It means that we need our creator to give us direction, purpose of life.


Just remember. God is His own self besides a lot of stuff that other people think.

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April 21, 2017, 04:44:31 PM
Everyone believes in God, some just suppress their knowledge of Him. I have felt his presence, many times. I can see intelligent design all around me

I think you might be schizophrenic.

Schizophrenic people like af_newbie have all kinds of af_newbie, schizophrenic thoughts.

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April 21, 2017, 12:15:04 PM
Everyone believes in God, some just suppress their knowledge of Him. I have felt his presence, many times. I can see intelligent design all around me

It's true but just people call God differently.
For some people, God is ''nature'' or ''Heaven'' or some universal force etc.
Some people believe in heavenly fortune or something else.
So, it's common for all of us to believe in something what is more powerful or above us.
It's part of human DNA.
We can't escape from reality that we are created beings.
It means that we need our creator to give us direction, purpose of life.


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April 21, 2017, 01:07:21 AM
Everyone believes in God, some just suppress their knowledge of Him. I have felt his presence, many times. I can see intelligent design all around me
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April 20, 2017, 11:12:10 PM
Yes, of course I believe in GOD, I can feel his presence all the teachings and through Sacred Scripture should I run. my heart feel reassured when remembering GOD.
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April 20, 2017, 09:59:21 PM

God says to kill them.  Are you questioning God?  He will surely send you to hell for such disobedience.


As I said I actually don't think that is his meaning here. I think God is simply laying down facts for us and telling us truths. God lets us know that certain sins lead to death with one form of death being the failure to reproduce across time. Of course that is just my interpretation.

You seem very obsessed with Christianity and that presentation of hell.

You do realize there are other opinions on this issue? Here is another school of thought. Maybe it will help.

http://www.reformjudaism.org/blog/2012/05/10/do-jews-believe-afterlife
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April 20, 2017, 07:56:33 PM

Theological Foundations and Application for Personal and Professional Life
Jama L. White, Psy.D., Amanda M. Blackburn, Psy.D., and Mary K. Plisco, Ph.D. Richmont Graduate University
http://richmont.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Richmont-Rest-as-Virtue-3-27-2015-Final.pdf
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In light of these Biblical directives to rest and cultural pressures to perform, the current study was designed to learn more about mental health professionals’ satisfaction with the rest they achieve in their lives. Quantitative and qualitative survey questions assessed participants’ satisfaction with rest practices, barriers to rest, beliefs about rest, and positive experiences of Sabbath-keeping practices.

Hypothesis #1: Those who identified themselves as Sabbath-keepers would report greater satisfaction with their quantity of rest practices than those who did not identify as Sabbath-keepers.

Hypothesis #2: Sabbath-keepers would also report higher levels of satisfaction with their quality of rest than non-Sabbath-keepers.

A concept mapping approach was used to categorize qualitative data regarding barriers to obtaining rest and regarding positive Sabbath rest practices.

Participants
296 mental health professionals or students who were either associated with one of two Christian professional graduate programs or were CAPS
members. 52% described themselves as clinical, 19% as students, 13 % as academic. 68% were married, 32% were single or divorced.

CONCLUSIONS

• Only approximately 25 % of respondents in this study reported
high satisfaction with their quality or quantity of rest.
Judeo-Christian teachings have placed Sabbath keeping as a core
practice for a life with a balance of work and rest.

In this study, those who did practice Sabbath keeping (defined as
refraining from work one day a week) were significantly more likely
to experience satisfaction with the quality of their rest.


Sabbath keepers were also significantly more likely to experience
satisfaction with their quantity of rest.


The findings of this study represent a call to professionals to
reconsider how this ancient practice may be a healing force in our
own lives. The intentional pulling away from the demands of work,
the choice to pause and acknowledge God’s purpose and power in our
lives and in His world, these are powerful forces in our lives as
Christian practitioners. These themes are worthy of our earnest
personal reflection.
legendary
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April 20, 2017, 07:29:20 PM

It does not matter.  God will fuck you up for your sins no matter what you believe.  It is what you do that matters.

You don't kill people who work on Sabbath, you go to hell.  As simple as that. That is what the Bible says.



Exodus 31:14 (JPS) reads, "Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death; for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people."

The Bible is full of statements such as that in Exodus 31:14. It is logical to interpret these as warning about the natural consequence of sin. Death in this context is not a call for individuals who commit these sins to be killed by their fellow men, but a warning that these sins lead eventually to self destruction and extinction aka death.

Aren't sabbath breakers supposed to be stoned? Why don't you enforce that?
http://www.sabbathtruth.com/faq/arguments-refuted/id/1021/arent-sabbath-breakers-supposed-to-be-stoned-why-dont-you-enforce-that
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If a law has no penalty, it has no force. but it does not follow that because we do not believe in stoning people therefore we believe there will be no punishment for those who violate the Sabbath or any other part of the law of God.

The only difference between the ancient Jewish order of things and ours today is as regards the time of punishment and the executor of the punishment. When God was the direct ruler, He saw fit to have an immediate punishment inflicted. Now the evil-doer must look forward to the last great day of judgment . (See Heb. 10:26-29)

Therefore let not the Sabbath breaker feel at ease in his mind simply because God has not suddenly brought sudden judgment upon him for his violation of the fourth precept of the decalogue, which declares that the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God, Creator of heaven and earth.

The story is told of a certain godless man who found special delight in flaunting his disobedience of the Sabbath command . He lived in a locality where the other farmers near him where devout Sabbath keepers. When October came and he harvested his crop, he found that he had even more in his barn than his neighbors.

Meeting the Sabbath keeping minister on the street one day, he gloatingly mentioned this fact. The minister's only reply was: "God does not always make a full settlement in October." No better answer could have been given.

The faithful Sabbath keeper awaits the day of final judgment to receive his full reward for obedience to God, the Creator of the whole earth. And likewise, the Sabbath violator must await that last great day of accounting in order to receive the final reward for his failure to obey the explicit command of God. The violation of the law of god is sin, the scriptures inform us (1 John 3:4), and the wages of sin is death (rom. 6:23). is that not sufficient penalty?
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April 20, 2017, 06:59:52 PM
What do you think believers can only for it to send to hell? They commit many sins themselves. I so funny to watch on TV as corrupt thieves politicians pray in front of the cameras.Lol! There is no heaven because there would be nobody there
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