If we are talking about generalities, yes. I understand that some traders can make a lot of money but the percentage of them is very low. On the other hand, passive investors, who buy good financial assets and hold them for a long time, make a huge percentage of their money. And the longer they hold, the more they earn. Somewhere I heard that the most profitable portfolios in the USA belonged to people who had died and for many years their heirs did not know that the deceased had this portfolio. Simply by compounding interest over many years, the profitability ends up rising exponentially.
Topic: Do You Believe, "Passive Investors Make More Than Active Investors?" - page 3. (Read 828 times)
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February 04, 2024, 01:58:24 AM
February 04, 2024, 12:14:30 AM
How much money you can earn depends on your investment. If you invest a large amount of Bitcoin and are successful enough to invest, your earnings will increase. Usually the amount of money I earn will depend on my investments. You can earn as much as you succeed in investing. A cousin of mine became an overnight owner of a lot of money when he caught on to passive investing. But I have not done passive investing. I think passive investors are much less stressful than active investors. If we want to be stress free then of course we can invest passively.
February 03, 2024, 11:01:59 PM
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However, I've read what Warren Buffet (an American businessman and philanthropist, widely considered the most successful investor of the 20th century) thinks about short-term investing, which is quite negative.
By the way, he also thinks BTC has no intrinsic value and cryptocurrency is just gambling.
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However, I've read what Warren Buffet (an American businessman and philanthropist, widely considered the most successful investor of the 20th century) thinks about short-term investing, which is quite negative.
By the way, he also thinks BTC has no intrinsic value and cryptocurrency is just gambling.
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Day trading can give you more profits compared to only holding your investment for the long term but there are always more risks for you to face on day trading. More profit will always be tempting but if you don't have good analysis you will make your hard work money become lost in vain. Warren Buffet already missed the train so no wonder he will be against to Bitcoin, those who can't accept the development of the world will only complain that new technology is a scam, gambling, useless invention, etc.
February 03, 2024, 09:25:12 PM
First and foremost, let us distinguish between "active investors" and "passive investors." It is possible that others will believe they are interchangeable when they are not; let us investigate.
Active investors can invest in individual equities as well as commodities. Even in terms of investment strategy, they are actively researching. Passive investors can focus less on purchasing and selling. And they always entail reduced risk due to what is known as diversity.
Reference: https://www.investopedia.com/news/active-vs-passive-investing
Active investors can invest in individual equities as well as commodities. Even in terms of investment strategy, they are actively researching. Passive investors can focus less on purchasing and selling. And they always entail reduced risk due to what is known as diversity.
Reference: https://www.investopedia.com/news/active-vs-passive-investing
February 03, 2024, 05:54:17 PM
I really believe that passive investors make more profits than active investors, passive investors tend to evaluate more details about the project they are going to invest in, look for lots of information about the project, understand the product, vision and mission, they read more seriously, if they are worth it, they will invest their money, while active investors are more towards trading who often look at indicators and concise information
February 03, 2024, 05:17:19 PM
The point is that, when you buy and hold then everyone will profit, it doesn't really separate good or bad because we all do the same thing, it doesn't really give people any different result at all. However, if we are talking about trading then the result is not the same, there are good traders and there are bad traders and depending on which one you are, you will either make some money or won't make any money.
Obviously we are going to end up with holding bitcoin for a greater return, and that should be the most important thing, it will give you some good return and will make sure that you make a profit. I am not really after higher than that, because it would mean I would have to put a lot more at risk if I want to make that kind of money.
This means the level of difficulty to become a trader is way higher, and this must be taken into account by anyone that wants to earn money this way, after all becoming an investor is relatively easy and as long as you pick a good asset and you can hold it for a very long time you will do well, but traders need to do way more than that to obtain profits, and if they are incapable of doing them correctly they will waste both their time and their money. Obviously we are going to end up with holding bitcoin for a greater return, and that should be the most important thing, it will give you some good return and will make sure that you make a profit. I am not really after higher than that, because it would mean I would have to put a lot more at risk if I want to make that kind of money.
February 02, 2024, 03:32:33 PM
This is the most simple yet correct explanation on the subject matter. Just additional thoughts since you didn’t mention it. Paper loss is usually being neglected by newbie traders yet it’s the most crucial part on trading that makes holders better than active trader in terms of profit.
Crypto is too much volatile so there’s a high chance that a trade will go south with this unprecedented volatile market. This makes trading will give you more lose in case the market is always against your position while on the other hand holders will just experience paper loss that soon will be negligible once the price recovers and turns to profit.
Not all but the majority who choose trading fails than those who just buy, hold, and sell (common investor). Yes, if we compare the results, investing is quite true to profit realization than trading. Aside from that investing doesn't give you pressure, as long as you choose profitable coins, you never feel any worries of it dumps or dying. Unlike trading, stressful and risky which is sometimes we can't sleep well thinking about the mistakes and losses we made. Crypto is too much volatile so there’s a high chance that a trade will go south with this unprecedented volatile market. This makes trading will give you more lose in case the market is always against your position while on the other hand holders will just experience paper loss that soon will be negligible once the price recovers and turns to profit.
Well, it is an individual choice in where we think it suits us. Whether it is trading or just simply investing, it still incurs losses if mismanaged.
Obviously we are going to end up with holding bitcoin for a greater return, and that should be the most important thing, it will give you some good return and will make sure that you make a profit. I am not really after higher than that, because it would mean I would have to put a lot more at risk if I want to make that kind of money.
February 02, 2024, 11:42:30 AM
I've been watching many YouTube videos on how to make lots of money through day trading.
Those videos are quite impressive and compelling.
However, I've read what Warren Buffet (an American businessman and philanthropist, widely considered the most successful investor of the 20th century) thinks about short-term investing, which is quite negative.
By the way, he also thinks BTC has no intrinsic value and cryptocurrency is just gambling.
Those videos are quite impressive and compelling.
However, I've read what Warren Buffet (an American businessman and philanthropist, widely considered the most successful investor of the 20th century) thinks about short-term investing, which is quite negative.
By the way, he also thinks BTC has no intrinsic value and cryptocurrency is just gambling.
Buffet is just one of the oldest investor that dominate stock and feel like he can say anything he like but he doesn't know that he knows nothing about bitcoin. This men control most of the stock markets and because they didn't have the opportunity to hold Bitcoin the way they control other stock, they think they can trash Bitcoin the way they like but Bitcoin creators know of their existence and didn't give them that chance and that's why they are quick pain anytime Bitcoin is making progress.
He might be right about not making good money in short term investment but you can't compare his world of stock to Bitcoin. In crypto, 4 years is like 10 years in another investment. If you can use your time well with Bitcoin, under this 4 years of bitcoin cycle, you can make what will take stock 10 years to profit and if you chose good altcoins, you will can get more than that amount under what he described as 4 years.
The next time he want to look for a topic of discussion about bitcoin, he should do away with this intrinsic cap he repeat all the time. If he doesn't know what bitcoin stand for by now, he can move to another thing to talk on Podcast, it mustn't be about Bitcoin all the time.
February 02, 2024, 09:05:50 AM
There should be no doubt that passive investors earn more profit than those who actively trade. In any case, they did not lose their money, like most who, without the necessary knowledge and experience, tried to trade, but simply lost their money as a result. So, getting a profit from day trading fate is not for many.
This is the most simple yet correct explanation on the subject matter. Just additional thoughts since you didn’t mention it. Paper loss is usually being neglected by newbie traders yet it’s the most crucial part on trading that makes holders better than active trader in terms of profit.
Crypto is too much volatile so there’s a high chance that a trade will go south with this unprecedented volatile market. This makes trading will give you more lose in case the market is always against your position while on the other hand holders will just experience paper loss that soon will be negligible once the price recovers and turns to profit.
Well, it is an individual choice in where we think it suits us. Whether it is trading or just simply investing, it still incurs losses if mismanaged.
February 02, 2024, 07:50:42 AM
There should be no doubt that passive investors earn more profit than those who actively trade. In any case, they did not lose their money, like most who, without the necessary knowledge and experience, tried to trade, but simply lost their money as a result. So, getting a profit from day trading fate is not for many.
This is the most simple yet correct explanation on the subject matter. Just additional thoughts since you didn’t mention it. Paper loss is usually being neglected by newbie traders yet it’s the most crucial part on trading that makes holders better than active trader in terms of profit.
Crypto is too much volatile so there’s a high chance that a trade will go south with this unprecedented volatile market. This makes trading will give you more lose in case the market is always against your position while on the other hand holders will just experience paper loss that soon will be negligible once the price recovers and turns to profit.
February 02, 2024, 07:46:42 AM
I've been watching many YouTube videos on how to make lots of money through day trading.
Those videos are quite impressive and compelling.
However, I've read what Warren Buffet (an American businessman and philanthropist, widely considered the most successful investor of the 20th century) thinks about short-term investing, which is quite negative.
By the way, he also thinks BTC has no intrinsic value and cryptocurrency is just gambling.
https://www.investors.com/news/warren-buffett-bashes-bitcoin-as-gambling-token-bitcoin-price-hovers-near-30000/#:~:text=%22Something%20like%20bitcoin%2C%20it%20is,intrinsic%20value%2C%22%20Buffett%20said.
Those videos are quite impressive and compelling.
However, I've read what Warren Buffet (an American businessman and philanthropist, widely considered the most successful investor of the 20th century) thinks about short-term investing, which is quite negative.
By the way, he also thinks BTC has no intrinsic value and cryptocurrency is just gambling.
https://www.investors.com/news/warren-buffett-bashes-bitcoin-as-gambling-token-bitcoin-price-hovers-near-30000/#:~:text=%22Something%20like%20bitcoin%2C%20it%20is,intrinsic%20value%2C%22%20Buffett%20said.
Somehow he is right since the profit you can only get for short trading is low and there's a chance that you provably lose all your capital in single trade if you miscalculate your move. That's why its really good to make your investment as passive especially if you invest it in bitcoin since this coin is known to get a big pump when long years past. So those investors doing a hodl would surely get a lot of benefits from that movement if that scenario will came.
We can always see that base on bitcoin movement for past years that's why many people believe that is to hodl is more better choice and people don't need to get thru a lot of stress before they can earn since by holding their bitcoin they can earn from it if certain like bull run event will come.
February 02, 2024, 06:22:27 AM
I've been watching many YouTube videos on how to make lots of money through day trading.
Those videos are quite impressive and compelling.
Those videos are quite impressive and compelling.
You will find many videos on YouTube that can really impress you but that doesn't mean they are the real picture because it could be that the person making the video has another agenda such as looking for referrals or people who want to join their channel which is about signals and will slowly start paying for it get the signal.
However, I've read what Warren Buffet (an American businessman and philanthropist, widely considered the most successful investor of the 20th century) thinks about short-term investing, which is quite negative.
By the way, he also thinks BTC has no intrinsic value and cryptocurrency is just gambling.
Because he is a very successful investor, his words can be trusted because he has proven it, whereas what he says about Bitcoin is something else and it is up to us to agree or disagree because everyone has different experiences with Bitcoin.By the way, he also thinks BTC has no intrinsic value and cryptocurrency is just gambling.
And based on my experience as an investor, it will indeed be more profitable than trading and you can also check that people who bought Bitcoin a decade ago and are still holding it are currently enjoying profits, maybe they will also still make a profit if they trade it every day but the amount may not be the same because daily trading sometimes puts traders under pressure to always make quick profits which makes them take wrong actions and end up in loss.
February 01, 2024, 10:07:44 PM
Depending on each individual's strategy, whether short term or long term, we cannot make it general for everyone. Each has different strategies and applications, even Warren Buffet and Michael J Saylor have different views regarding Bitcoin.
In fact, the right strategy can make someone rich faster even with not too much money. Until now and perhaps beyond, investors who continue to actively monitor the market and trade VS passive investors who might be called HODLER, each have their own advantages and disadvantages. Just adjust it to your type.
Have these people become rich already because of trading?
Maybe he is rich because he is a YouTuber ...he has created content that is so interesting that someone is interested in seeing it. Don't focus on how interesting the content is, but pay attention to the content of the content being delivered. In the current era, more and more video editors have succeeded in making ordinary things visually extraordinarily attractive.
In fact, the right strategy can make someone rich faster even with not too much money. Until now and perhaps beyond, investors who continue to actively monitor the market and trade VS passive investors who might be called HODLER, each have their own advantages and disadvantages. Just adjust it to your type.
I've been watching many YouTube videos on how to make lots of money through day trading.
Those videos are quite impressive and compelling.
They are quite impressive and compelling indeed but not all of them are real, many are manipulated to attract people to trade. Those videos are quite impressive and compelling.
Have these people become rich already because of trading?
February 01, 2024, 09:49:16 PM
I've been watching many YouTube videos on how to make lots of money through day trading.
Those videos are quite impressive and compelling.
They are quite impressive and compelling indeed but not all of them are real, many are manipulated to attract people to trade. Those videos are quite impressive and compelling.
Have these people become rich already because of trading?
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However, I've read what Warren Buffet (an American businessman and philanthropist, widely considered the most successful investor of the 20th century) thinks about short-term investing, which is quite negative.
By the way, he also thinks BTC has no intrinsic value and cryptocurrency is just gambling.
They can be both profitable passive and active investors because they have their strategies as well. But for some instances, passive investment gives more yet, it will take a longer time to wait before we can harvest rewards like Real Estate where it takes years to develop. By the way, he also thinks BTC has no intrinsic value and cryptocurrency is just gambling.
Well, we could also consider the passion of the investor and the way they manage their investments. They can be long-term or short-term but what matters the most is choosing the right investment even in the crypto space - Bitcoin or altcoins.
February 01, 2024, 07:55:38 PM
Are there any active traders among the people reading this topic? It is very interesting whether it is possible to really make money on this, or if there is a negative experience. They write a lot of things here, but no one shares their trading experience.
im quite active in trading i think i have made plenty this few days alone and I think this statement kinda holds truth, i've missed several opportunities of getting that massive 3-4x gain just because i traded actively i remember i traded sui and sei at really low price and right now it has made 2-3 of its prices back then when we are still early in bullrun though i've made good profit out of it but certainly if i were passive investors i would have gained much more profit in the long run, indeed the saying holder always win at the end are sometime just true despite might sound ridiculous i mean to be real holder in the first place we need to be faithful and small amount of distrust toward the coin already cause us panic selling.i think its best to be both passive and active investors to be honest, to not miss out any opportunity.
February 01, 2024, 06:33:14 PM
Warren buffet is accustomed to business and investment with unusual capital, and now he judges bitcoin to have no instrinsic value or thinks it is just a hoax or other dirty words. But if he wants to try bitcoin more often he should know that bitcoin can provide opportunities for both new investors. How not, bitcoin can even with 5-10$ can trade daily and can also start investment trading as easily as in the hand in hodl.
Many still think that when the rich question, how can a person from a weak economic background become an investor with enough money to support his or her life outside of large savings.
And it's not just warren, it's their right even though they have a view because they don't feel the convenience in bitcoin. I don't care about these people, they are busy branding themselves. Whereas bitcoin is qualified finance and everyone can invest whenever and however much they want, even with the few sats they get over time it can become savings.
Many still think that when the rich question, how can a person from a weak economic background become an investor with enough money to support his or her life outside of large savings.
And it's not just warren, it's their right even though they have a view because they don't feel the convenience in bitcoin. I don't care about these people, they are busy branding themselves. Whereas bitcoin is qualified finance and everyone can invest whenever and however much they want, even with the few sats they get over time it can become savings. 
February 01, 2024, 05:40:03 PM
There should be no doubt that passive investors earn more profit than those who actively trade. In any case, they did not lose their money, like most who, without the necessary knowledge and experience, tried to trade, but simply lost their money as a result. So, getting a profit from day trading fate is not for many.
February 01, 2024, 04:23:03 PM
I've been watching many YouTube videos on how to make lots of money through day trading.
Those videos are quite impressive and compelling
The aim of some of the creators of those videos is for them to make money from your views and not to really pass knowledge or share their secrets, and also some of their methods are either not applicable somehow, or more theoretical than practical. Those videos are quite impressive and compelling
However, I've read what Warren Buffet (an American businessman and philanthropist, widely considered the most successful investor of the 20th century) thinks about short-term investing, which is quite negative.
By the way, he also thinks BTC has no intrinsic value and cryptocurrency is just gambling.
what do you think, do you think he will always be right because he is a billionaire with a big name? that he can never be wrong about bitcoins?. If you think he cannot be wrong, I am sorry to say but you are not far from being a potato that cannot have thoughts on their own.By the way, he also thinks BTC has no intrinsic value and cryptocurrency is just gambling.
February 01, 2024, 03:59:21 PM
My opinion is that both investors can do well in their own positions, if they have enough knowledge of what they are actually doing. Many people make big profits from day trading. If you are influenced by their videos and jump into day trading without any trading experience, then you will not be able to survive in this market.
Passive investment can give an investor a huge return that even that investor does not expect, but investing in the right place at the right time also becomes important and this also requires considerable knowledge. And those who have invested in Bitcoin for the long term have seen huge returns that few retail investors have been able to sustain for so long. But passive investors know very well how the market works, and because they have enough money, they wait patiently for their desired target to be achieved. And day traders take trades from one to another throughout the day so that they are under a lot of stress. So in my opinion, if you can be an expert, you can get good results everywhere.
Passive investment can give an investor a huge return that even that investor does not expect, but investing in the right place at the right time also becomes important and this also requires considerable knowledge. And those who have invested in Bitcoin for the long term have seen huge returns that few retail investors have been able to sustain for so long. But passive investors know very well how the market works, and because they have enough money, they wait patiently for their desired target to be achieved. And day traders take trades from one to another throughout the day so that they are under a lot of stress. So in my opinion, if you can be an expert, you can get good results everywhere.
February 01, 2024, 03:32:55 PM
Warren Buffet always took his stance against bitcoin because as per his understanding Bitcoin has no intrinsic value.
But let's talk about the context, in theory, a day trader can make any amount as profit, let's say one can double his capital in just one or two trades but how long it is possible to maintain the streak not more than once more often that means day trading is highly profitable but at the same time you can lose the capital in no time too that makes day trading to be less profitable in the net value in long term.
While HODLers, simply buy bitcoin and do nothing but still in a cycle we can at least expect 2x profits.
But let's talk about the context, in theory, a day trader can make any amount as profit, let's say one can double his capital in just one or two trades but how long it is possible to maintain the streak not more than once more often that means day trading is highly profitable but at the same time you can lose the capital in no time too that makes day trading to be less profitable in the net value in long term.
While HODLers, simply buy bitcoin and do nothing but still in a cycle we can at least expect 2x profits.
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