Do you believe that win in gambling is depending on your luck ?

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Quote from: mirakal on December 14, 2016, 02:28:22 AM

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Quote from: nasipadang on December 10, 2016, 09:41:44 AM

i dont believe it , in gambling the only test your brain to calculate random numbers

really? why you are so sure about this? do you get much of winning with your play? because i only believe that win in the gambling is depending in our luck, beside that we can only loss. no matter how good your strategy, your calculation but as long as you don't have a luck, then its impossible you can get win. if your calculation work, then your luck should be work too.

I think strategy, skill, and luck is all needed. If you don't have skill and strategy then luck will be definitely on your side. But if you don't have a skill and strategy to play the game then luck is your only chance to win. You can't just depend on luck because it will not generate you some good profits.

yes you're true that all those things is related and in gambling to avoid unpredictable results combine skill, strategy and luck that would be more good rather than only counting on luck and in my opinion if you have all of it then that would makes you more confident when you starting gamble

Try to know your skills first, if you believe you can win gambling in the long run then that is the time to risk and invest on yourself. It's gambling and a game of chance and your luck is important but you cannot rely nor trust it as it times of trouble you can't expect to come and help you. Be smart enough to know that we do win if we are consistent with our picks and understanding we can't win all the time is a must.

Skills would only vary if you are playing on a particular gambling game that does need experience and skills like sportsbetting and card games but you will always need luck in order to win and you are right we must not fully rely on it always because not all the times that we are lucky and might lose the money we play on gambling. This is really a game of chances on which results are truly random.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on December 13, 2016, 01:08:25 AM

Quote from: michellee on December 12, 2016, 09:56:05 PM

Quote from: nasipadang on December 10, 2016, 09:41:44 AM

i dont believe it , in gambling the only test your brain to calculate random numbers

really? why you are so sure about this? do you get much of winning with your play? because i only believe that win in the gambling is depending in our luck, beside that we can only loss. no matter how good your strategy, your calculation but as long as you don't have a luck, then its impossible you can get win. if your calculation work, then your luck should be work too.

I think strategy, skill, and luck is all needed. If you don't have skill and strategy then luck will be definitely on your side. But if you don't have a skill and strategy to play the game then luck is your only chance to win. You can't just depend on luck because it will not generate you some good profits.

yeaa it is true that all of them need each other, not only luck determine your bet will win or not.
but in certain games that i believe nothing required but luck such as a dice game that no matter you have used a lot of strategies the outcome will be the same nothing changed. but sometimes i admit do a random bet and rely on luck only.

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I'd say partly due to luck but more of making the right choices.

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Quote from: bering on December 14, 2016, 01:53:56 AM

Quote from: xSkylarx on December 13, 2016, 01:08:25 AM

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Quote from: nasipadang on December 10, 2016, 09:41:44 AM

i dont believe it , in gambling the only test your brain to calculate random numbers

really? why you are so sure about this? do you get much of winning with your play? because i only believe that win in the gambling is depending in our luck, beside that we can only loss. no matter how good your strategy, your calculation but as long as you don't have a luck, then its impossible you can get win. if your calculation work, then your luck should be work too.

I think strategy, skill, and luck is all needed. If you don't have skill and strategy then luck will be definitely on your side. But if you don't have a skill and strategy to play the game then luck is your only chance to win. You can't just depend on luck because it will not generate you some good profits.

yes you're true that all those things is related and in gambling to avoid unpredictable results combine skill, strategy and luck that would be more good rather than only counting on luck and in my opinion if you have all of it then that would makes you more confident when you starting gamble

Try to know your skills first, if you believe you can win gambling in the long run then that is the time to risk and invest on yourself. It's gambling and a game of chance and your luck is important but you cannot rely nor trust it as it times of trouble you can't expect to come and help you. Be smart enough to know that we do win if we are consistent with our picks and understanding we can't win all the time is a must.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on December 13, 2016, 01:08:25 AM

Quote from: michellee on December 12, 2016, 09:56:05 PM

Quote from: nasipadang on December 10, 2016, 09:41:44 AM

i dont believe it , in gambling the only test your brain to calculate random numbers

really? why you are so sure about this? do you get much of winning with your play? because i only believe that win in the gambling is depending in our luck, beside that we can only loss. no matter how good your strategy, your calculation but as long as you don't have a luck, then its impossible you can get win. if your calculation work, then your luck should be work too.

I think strategy, skill, and luck is all needed. If you don't have skill and strategy then luck will be definitely on your side. But if you don't have a skill and strategy to play the game then luck is your only chance to win. You can't just depend on luck because it will not generate you some good profits.

yes you're true that all those things is related and in gambling to avoid unpredictable results combine skill, strategy and luck that would be more good rather than only counting on luck and in my opinion if you have all of it then that would makes you more confident when you starting gamble

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Quote from: michellee on December 12, 2016, 09:56:05 PM

Quote from: nasipadang on December 10, 2016, 09:41:44 AM

i dont believe it , in gambling the only test your brain to calculate random numbers

really? why you are so sure about this? do you get much of winning with your play? because i only believe that win in the gambling is depending in our luck, beside that we can only loss. no matter how good your strategy, your calculation but as long as you don't have a luck, then its impossible you can get win. if your calculation work, then your luck should be work too.

I think strategy, skill, and luck is all needed. If you don't have skill and strategy then luck will be definitely on your side. But if you don't have a skill and strategy to play the game then luck is your only chance to win. You can't just depend on luck because it will not generate you some good profits.

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Quote from: fullypak on December 12, 2016, 10:28:17 PM

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Quote from: Johansson6 on December 12, 2016, 10:00:04 PM

Yes I think its really depending on the luck you are having, gambling is something that is really depending on it, without luck you will also not win without any doubts people!!

But with full reliance of luck you will not win as well. It should be in a balance way, there's no way a lazy person will win in gambling if he is seeking for a great financial return, there's a technique that we should develop for us to be entitled for a long term winnings and that can be done with continue learning from our mistakes and experimenting of ways that might help us to succeed.

I think to win money gambling whether your lazy or not important. But luck is very important. If you're lucky and even though you're lazy than surely you will win big money. If your very active and no luck then you can't win money even with superb strategy also.

But have your tried to win in the long run basing on your luck alone? I guess you do not, because luck cannot give us success to win in the long run. What I am trying to emphasize here is that, you have to be more realistic with your objectives in gambling and for you to analyze your chances you need to base on realistic data that can be measured, and luck cannot be measured, right?

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Quote from: Maslate on December 12, 2016, 10:14:25 PM

Quote from: Johansson6 on December 12, 2016, 10:00:04 PM

Yes I think its really depending on the luck you are having, gambling is something that is really depending on it, without luck you will also not win without any doubts people!!

But with full reliance of luck you will not win as well. It should be in a balance way, there's no way a lazy person will win in gambling if he is seeking for a great financial return, there's a technique that we should develop for us to be entitled for a long term winnings and that can be done with continue learning from our mistakes and experimenting of ways that might help us to succeed.

I think to win money gambling whether your lazy or not important. But luck is very important. If you're lucky and even though you're lazy than surely you will win big money. If your very active and no luck then you can't win money even with superb strategy also.

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Quote from: Johansson6 on December 12, 2016, 10:00:04 PM

Yes I think its really depending on the luck you are having, gambling is something that is really depending on it, without luck you will also not win without any doubts people!!

But with full reliance of luck you will not win as well. It should be in a balance way, there's no way a lazy person will win in gambling if he is seeking for a great financial return, there's a technique that we should develop for us to be entitled for a long term winnings and that can be done with continue learning from our mistakes and experimenting of ways that might help us to succeed.

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Yes I think its really depending on the luck you are having, gambling is something that is really depending on it, without luck you will also not win without any doubts people!!

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Quote from: nasipadang on December 10, 2016, 09:41:44 AM

i dont believe it , in gambling the only test your brain to calculate random numbers

really? why you are so sure about this? do you get much of winning with your play? because i only believe that win in the gambling is depending in our luck, beside that we can only loss. no matter how good your strategy, your calculation but as long as you don't have a luck, then its impossible you can get win. if your calculation work, then your luck should be work too.

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Quote from: butcherboss on December 11, 2016, 09:26:26 AM

Gambling is luck. Yes, using a good strategy may increase your chances of winning but if only luck is on your side. Even skill based gambling like poker require some luck.

What you said is correct. Even in skill based game, we need the luck to win any bet because we can't predict more accurately always just based on our experience. Sometimes some of the matches are fixed, and results may go wrong, and in such situations, we need the luck to win our bets.

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Quote from: Watsuji on December 08, 2016, 03:24:36 PM

Most gambling games are games of chance like dice game and roulette... there is no skill involved. The most difficult skill is to walk away from the game when you're winning

Personally I think is a lot harder to walk away when you are losing because you keep thinking in the money you lost in the session unlike when you are winning because you know you can walk away any time and still be on profit.

That's why when you go to gambling don't go with the mindset of making money. But go there to enjoy your free time and think that you will spend some small fixed amount for your fun activity. If you win then it is profit and if you lose then think that you had some fun with small amount.

That is what I do when I go to a casino, I only carry the money I'm willing to lose that night and nothing more, I don't carry credit cards or valuables of any kind to not give room to temptation.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on December 09, 2016, 01:04:23 PM

Indeed I am talking about a situation where great and factual prediction in sports betting failed because of the chance that this thing (bad beat and upset win/victory) occurs.

To define it clearly

Code:

Upset Victory
An upset occurs in a competition, frequently in electoral politics or sports, when the party popularly expected to win (the favorite),
 is defeated by an underdog whom the majority expects to lose, defying the conventional wisdom.
 The underdog then becomes a giant-killer.

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upset

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bad beat
In poker, bad beat is a subjective term for a hand in which a player with what appear to be strong cards nevertheless loses. 
It most often occurs where one player bets the clearly stronger hand and their opponent makes a poor call that eventually 
"sucks out" and wins

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_beat

Ok, an example of that was the current situation right now of the NBA gsw to be specific losing the underdog teams. While on the bad beat that came from a subjective term of poker.

Now lets go back to luck's definition whether the upset victory or bad beat occurs (to what have you said that this situation could prove that the luck in gambling could not be defined. How could we say that a person/team is lucky? Luck AFAIK occurs always at the end of the certain game so basically those situation are all predictions(and the reason why you think that luck could not be defined). Luck do matters to every result,as i have said the person can't say that he is lucky unless he got the result that he desires or more

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Quote from: butcherboss on December 11, 2016, 09:26:26 AM

Gambling is luck. Yes, using a good strategy may increase your chances of winning but if only luck is on your side. Even skill based gambling like poker require some luck.

That's true, even how good you are in gambling and how many strategies you got there still you need to have luck in able to win.

And even those people who are already in gambling industry for so many years, still they are hoping for luck to come to them.

So, I really do believe that when we win, it is because we are lucky.

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Quote from: mirakal on December 11, 2016, 10:59:42 AM

Quote from: lionheart78 on December 11, 2016, 10:43:46 AM

Quote from: panjul07 on December 11, 2016, 10:35:18 AM

Quote from: nasipadang on December 10, 2016, 09:41:44 AM

i dont believe it , in gambling the only test your brain to calculate random numbers

Best answer so far LOL
Gambling is not a math no matter how smart you are to calculate numbers, it wont change the result. It has nothing to do with your brain, but if you used to calculate random numbers then I'm sure you will be crazy sooner/later because of the numbers.

There had been an argument about his stuff. Actually gambling is a game of chance and luck has nothing to do with it. When you said of chance, it deals with probability numbers or percentage that on how frequent that result will occur and that is math. So basically it does involve mathematical calculations.

That's a more accurate definition, I cannot even believe other people are thinking it's primarily base on luck. It's definitely base on chance and what we know which is real is that our chances is lower compared to the gambling house and that pretty obvious since the gambling industry is very profitable while most of the gamblers loses and some even destroy their lives because of gambling.

that's right if house only relied from their luck i guess no one will put such kind of a business as we know that system has been created to have big edge against the gamblers one thing is for sure its hard to win against it even luck is on your way if you dont know how to play with it correctly and manage it in your edge.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on December 11, 2016, 10:43:46 AM

Quote from: panjul07 on December 11, 2016, 10:35:18 AM

Quote from: nasipadang on December 10, 2016, 09:41:44 AM

i dont believe it , in gambling the only test your brain to calculate random numbers

Best answer so far LOL
Gambling is not a math no matter how smart you are to calculate numbers, it wont change the result. It has nothing to do with your brain, but if you used to calculate random numbers then I'm sure you will be crazy sooner/later because of the numbers.

There had been an argument about his stuff. Actually gambling is a game of chance and luck has nothing to do with it. When you said of chance, it deals with probability numbers or percentage that on how frequent that result will occur and that is math. So basically it does involve mathematical calculations.

That's a more accurate definition, I cannot even believe other people are thinking it's primarily base on luck. It's definitely base on chance and what we know which is real is that our chances is lower compared to the gambling house and that pretty obvious since the gambling industry is very profitable while most of the gamblers loses and some even destroy their lives because of gambling.

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Quote from: panjul07 on December 11, 2016, 10:35:18 AM

Quote from: nasipadang on December 10, 2016, 09:41:44 AM

i dont believe it , in gambling the only test your brain to calculate random numbers

Best answer so far LOL
Gambling is not a math no matter how smart you are to calculate numbers, it wont change the result. It has nothing to do with your brain, but if you used to calculate random numbers then I'm sure you will be crazy sooner/later because of the numbers.

There had been an argument about his stuff. Actually gambling is a game of chance and luck has nothing to do with it. When you said of chance, it deals with probability numbers or percentage that on how frequent that result will occur and that is math. So basically it does involve mathematical calculations.

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Quote from: nasipadang on December 10, 2016, 09:41:44 AM

i dont believe it , in gambling the only test your brain to calculate random numbers

Best answer so far LOL
Gambling is not a math no matter how smart you are to calculate numbers, it wont change the result. It has nothing to do with your brain, but if you used to calculate random numbers then I'm sure you will be crazy sooner/later because of the numbers.

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Gambling is luck. Yes, using a good strategy may increase your chances of winning but if only luck is on your side. Even skill based gambling like poker require some luck.

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