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I do 100 % believe without having luck you can not win any gambling. I shall say even in skilled base gambling having luck means you get good supporting cards which have their own role in winning or loosing. If analysis and information was everything then people were always winning and gambling books were closed long ago. The figures are telling different story.
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i dont believe it , in gambling the only test your brain to calculate random numbers

If you think like that and gambling to make a profit then most likely you're an addicted gambler. Even though those games are designed based on mathematical background but we can't think all those probabilities which computer can think and decide which will be the next result. And that's why we call the end result is based on luck.
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Yes there is nothing  that you can really do to gain more luck it is all luck based. Luck is not something you can influence but I also want to say even in skill based games and activities there is still luck. Luck always plays apart in the things we do. It just varies in amounts.
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When we came into a gambling place we have no idea whether we will leave it with huge money in our pocket or we will leave that place with nothing in our pocket. It all depends on luck. For me, luck is the major factor in gambling action.
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i dont believe it , in gambling the only test your brain to calculate random numbers
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I am totally believe that gambling is depend on luck and nothing else. You know in gambling only one thing we need it and final it, and that is Luck.
I will not talk more than without luck in gambling. We can play every game, even we have experience and also very well in all strategy but without luck that's all are useless.

Then your assumption is wrong. Even those who promotes luck over matters still does always advises everyone that it is just a bonus for everything you do just like gambling. Playing smart would still be more dominant than you were saying  a pure luck.

Can anyone define luck?  Anyway, I agree that there are certain games where the dominant factor is strategy and skill, but sometimes, the chance of the inferior team to win occurs.  This is called an upset win, or bad beat in poker terms.  I can say, chance to win or lose can never be omitted  in a competition.  Even with dice or roulette, it is that in this two gambling game, the chance to lose is pretty dominant because of it's ratio to winning. 


"can anyone define luck?" Yes, of course there is luck is a word and a word wouldn't be made without any definition. The inferiority that you were saying is another situation as well because first those gambling sites were programmed to let the owner gain its profit and share some dividends to well as you said those lucky players that plays during that time.

Right, i also know that luck is a word, but inside it has a lot of facilities for us.
Also i don't think that anyone need to explanation and definition about luck. Everyone know that luck is a God gifted thing, and also everyone no have it. So basically, we use word luck in gambling, because we know that gambling is a risky way, and in this situation, we mustily need luck.
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Of course, how can you deny that luck is a huge factor in gambling??? All legit gambling websites are provably fair. So, if luck wasnt a factor, all would have won big and same amounts. Strategy can help to minimize losses but luck is the only thing that decides whether you win or not.

However, Roulette and Dice are among the types of gambling that require luck, but sports betting actually needs more skill than luck, the skill to analyze teams and predict.
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I have seen cases, on the internet, of people who have made fortunes out of it, and these people attribute most of the gains to strategy. I think there are actually strategies that help reduce risk, but luck will always be the deciding factor.

There are people, for example, who had never bet before and made fortunes, even without having the experience of other gamblers.

Well described the facts behind luck and strategy. Luck will always act as the deciding factor, while the strategies made after going through a series of events faced by a particular player or a team gives a hope of winning the bet.
We can't deny the fact that even if we have made a good analysis of the game we still want to be have a greater chance and hope that luck will be with us every time we gamble. True that we need luck but depending on it is not a good attitude if you are rooting for a long term success.
We really do always hope for luck to be with us no matter what kind of gambling games we do play we still call out for luck since we know that if we are lucky enough we would eventually win on a particular game. Thats why its being called gambling since results are random and you will really need off some luck in order to win because if luck isnt on your side you will definitely lose.
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I have seen cases, on the internet, of people who have made fortunes out of it, and these people attribute most of the gains to strategy. I think there are actually strategies that help reduce risk, but luck will always be the deciding factor.

There are people, for example, who had never bet before and made fortunes, even without having the experience of other gamblers.

Well described the facts behind luck and strategy. Luck will always act as the deciding factor, while the strategies made after going through a series of events faced by a particular player or a team gives a hope of winning the bet.
We can't deny the fact that even if we have made a good analysis of the game we still want to be have a greater chance and hope that luck will be with us every time we gamble. True that we need luck but depending on it is not a good attitude if you are rooting for a long term success.
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I have seen cases, on the internet, of people who have made fortunes out of it, and these people attribute most of the gains to strategy. I think there are actually strategies that help reduce risk, but luck will always be the deciding factor.

There are people, for example, who had never bet before and made fortunes, even without having the experience of other gamblers.

Well described the facts behind luck and strategy. Luck will always act as the deciding factor, while the strategies made after going through a series of events faced by a particular player or a team gives a hope of winning the bet.
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I have seen cases, on the internet, of people who have made fortunes out of it, and these people attribute most of the gains to strategy. I think there are actually strategies that help reduce risk, but luck will always be the deciding factor.

There are people, for example, who had never bet before and made fortunes, even without having the experience of other gamblers.
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Some gambling forms are completely on luck such as Roulette,dice but some have skill involved as well like sports betting. Sports betting might need luck but if betting for long it is skill that will play big part.

I completely agree with you, and I would add poker to the games that could held some profit to the player if everything is done properly.
I don't know any other types of gambling that are strategy based like these two, unless you consider trading as gambling.
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Some gambling forms are completely on luck such as Roulette,dice but some have skill involved as well like sports betting. Sports betting might need luck but if betting for long it is skill that will play big part.
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I am totally believe that gambling is depend on luck and nothing else. You know in gambling only one thing we need it and final it, and that is Luck.
I will not talk more than without luck in gambling. We can play every game, even we have experience and also very well in all strategy but without luck that's all are useless.
But there are some games where you also need some skills and experience along with some knowledge of that game besides which we cannot think of a win in gambling especially in sports betting where you would have a good knowledge of the sports and the players on whom you are betting.
And still even if a newbie poker players will have luck he can take down professional pro. All it takes to have strong hand because you are lucky.
Gambling is designed to be game of chances and you can win rather by having luck than through your own actions/skills.
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I am totally believe that gambling is depend on luck and nothing else. You know in gambling only one thing we need it and final it, and that is Luck.
I will not talk more than without luck in gambling. We can play every game, even we have experience and also very well in all strategy but without luck that's all are useless.
But there are some games where you also need some skills and experience along with some knowledge of that game besides which we cannot think of a win in gambling especially in sports betting where you would have a good knowledge of the sports and the players on whom you are betting.
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I think almost all types of gambling games is just depending to our luck. Even poker and sports betting that many are saying that it doesn't need luck but in reality, many poker players are hoping for their lucky cards and as well as the people who are betting in sports, they are also hoping a very lucky winning shot.

This is true.
It depends what kind of gambling, for example, poker has a huge experience factor!
A professional poker player will beat the shit out of you with a shitty hand, because he has experience, but you can still be very lucky and beat him

So, in poker, it does not only depend on your luck, it does a bit, but that's not even the half of it

While you play fruits, it's almost pure luck
Roulette pretty much
Blackjack, uhhh, most of it, but no all of it, you sneed to know a few things and have some experience playing

Now, again, I wouldn't want to get all philosophical but we need to think what we define as 'luck'  Cheesy
In roulette, it all depends on the random outcome of the spinning ball, however is that random outcome 'luck'?

If we define 'luck' as something that happens to 'lucky' people, hell no

But I believe most people who believe in 'luck' actually think that 'luck' is exactly that, a random outcome going your way, a random outcome that hits you on a positive way and makes you win

If we define luck that way, then yes, some of the gambling games are based purely on luck
Some require a bit of knowledge and some require a lot (ex. poker) Wink
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Luck depends on what game are you playing. If you are playong cashino then you need luck but if you play oker or any other games you need strategy . I think 50 percent it depends upon luck and 50 percent on strategy .

I think almost all types of gambling games is just depending to our luck. Even poker and sports betting that many are saying that it doesn't need luck but in reality, many poker players are hoping for their lucky cards and as well as the people who are betting in sports, they are also hoping a very lucky winning shot.
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Luck depends on what game are you playing. If you are playong cashino then you need luck but if you play oker or any other games you need strategy . I think 50 percent it depends upon luck and 50 percent on strategy .
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Luck is 100% in gambling, whoever tells you anything else is lying. That is what gambling is about, luck. You can only be intelligent in the way you take losses, you must know when to retire because if you keep playing after losses you may end up bankrupt.
No, it's not. Not all gambling depends on luck, there are gamble games which are skill-based. Let's say luck is already given but it is very rare. So if a player don't mind his losses he can bet on luck-based gambling because that kind of game is only for risk takers.
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Then your assumption is wrong. Even those who promotes luck over matters still does always advises everyone that it is just a bonus for everything you do just like gambling. Playing smart would still be more dominant than you were saying  a pure luck.
Can anyone define luck?  Anyway, I agree that there are certain games where the dominant factor is strategy and skill, but sometimes, the chance of the inferior team to win occurs.  This is called an upset win, or bad beat in poker terms.  I can say, chance to win or lose can never be omitted  in a competition.  Even with dice or roulette, it is that in this two gambling game, the chance to lose is pretty dominant because of it's ratio to winning. 
"can anyone define luck?" Yes, of course there is luck is a word and a word wouldn't be made without any definition. The inferiority that you were saying is another situation as well because first those gambling sites were programmed to let the owner gain its profit and share some dividends to well as you said those lucky players that plays during that time.
I think  he is not talking about the casino owner or program that is running within the site.  It is a situation where a less favored player (underdog) win the match (upset win) while bad beat is the case in poker player where the one holding the inferior cards win.

Indeed I am talking about a situation where great and factual prediction in sports betting failed because of the chance that this thing (bad beat and upset win/victory) occurs. 

To define it clearly

Code:
Upset Victory
An upset occurs in a competition, frequently in electoral politics or sports, when the party popularly expected to win (the favorite),
 is defeated by an underdog whom the majority expects to lose, defying the conventional wisdom.
 The underdog then becomes a giant-killer.
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upset

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bad beat
In poker, bad beat is a subjective term for a hand in which a player with what appear to be strong cards nevertheless loses.
It most often occurs where one player bets the clearly stronger hand and their opponent makes a poor call that eventually
"sucks out" and wins
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_beat
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