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I wasn't aware there was a "vegeterian country" lmao. that's a pretty interesting concept. Is everyone vegeterian there?
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I dont believe such a country exists
legendary
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This whole idea needs deep thinking. 1 Peter 2:13-17:
13Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human authority: whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority, 14or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right. 15For it is God’s will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish people. 16Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as God’s slaves. 17Show proper respect to everyone, love the family of believers, fear God, honor the emperor.

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Exactly!
Notice the:  "who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right."


Our LORD basically "broke" the sabbath law to save life.. . Saving life is right or good. The blind pharisees did not understand the true sabbath, which is about doing good, living selfless and holy life.
The sabbath law does stop people from doing what is right on that day. Living a selfish life is wrong in GOD's sight... that is basically what the law intend to stop on the holy day of sabbath. And it also good to rest on sabbath day in order to be refreshed


The two foundational laws are:
1. Love God above all things;
2. Love your neighbor as yourself.
Upon these two laws hang all the law and the prophets.

Depending on the circumstances regarding eating meat or abstaining, any law has to be based on if you are doing it according to the dictates of the two foundational laws.

Therefore, if there is a country law that says that eating meat is illegal, out of love, don't eat meat. The only way breaking that law is right is if breaking the meat law upholds the law of love better than obeying the meat law.

However, if there is not meat law, but the people have official or unofficial tradition against eating meat, still don't eat meat, for the sake of the people, except if eating meat is benefiting the people more... in love.

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Ucy
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The pork example also applies in this case... would you kill and eat pig meat if you're starving in the forest with your friends and find a pig close by?
I believe the answer would be yes for many in the country that bans the meat.. It's moral to eat it with your friends and survive than to let everyone starve to death due to the country's law on pork. This can be easily proven to be a right decision in any just court.
You're right, if im also in a situation starving to death,then i will also eat the meat. I would not risk mylife following the rules and make my friends suffer in starvation.

That is the right thing to do. You break no law by doing what is right... Afterall that is what the laws are intended for...
If I were a judge I will commend you for saving your friends lives and get you released immediately.
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How would you behave in a country that forbid or ban the eating of meat?
Is there a country who ban eating meat? If i live or visit the country then i should respect the rules and follow it. I don't want to go to jail not following a simple rule.
No, there is no such country exists to be honest and in many countries people don't even know about vegetarian community, now vegans are the current trend they don't even consume any milk products but being vegan is really going to disturb the food chain cycle of cattles.
Ucy
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This whole idea needs deep thinking. 1 Peter 2:13-17:
13Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human authority: whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority, 14or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right. 15For it is God’s will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish people. 16Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as God’s slaves. 17Show proper respect to everyone, love the family of believers, fear God, honor the emperor.

Cool


Exactly!
Notice the:  "who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right."


Our LORD basically "broke" the sabbath law to save life.. . Saving life is right or good. The blind pharisees did not understand the true sabbath, which is about doing good, living selfless and holy life.
The sabbath law does stop people from doing what is right on that day. Living a selfish life is wrong in GOD's sight... that is basically what the law intend to stop on the holy day of sabbath. And it also good to rest on sabbath day in order to be refreshed 


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The pork example also applies in this case... would you kill and eat pig meat if you're starving in the forest with your friends and find a pig close by?
I believe the answer would be yes for many in the country that bans the meat.. It's moral to eat it with your friends and survive than to let everyone starve to death due to the country's law on pork. This can be easily proven to be a right decision in any just court.
You're right, if im also in a situation starving to death,then i will also eat the meat. I would not risk mylife following the rules and make my friends suffer in starvation.
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How would you behave in a country that forbid or ban the eating of meat?
Is there a country who ban eating meat? If i live or visit the country then i should respect the rules and follow it. I don't want to go to jail not following a simple rule.
legendary
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How would you behave in a country that forbid or ban the eating of meat?

I believe no human law is above GOD's law, so the ban should not affect you as a true christain because GOD allows eating of meat. Eating good meat and eating moderately is good for us.

But for the sake of love and not desrepecting members of the society, you try to avoid eating in their presence. And you also inform them that meat is not harmful to us esp if eaten the right way. A just society would investigate your claim, and unban meat eating if found to be true.
Afterall, the purpose of law is for the good of society, people and the world. If you insist on holding tightly to laws that serve no good purpose then you are the problem.
There are good and bad laws. Your law has to be good.

This whole idea needs deep thinking. 1 Peter 2:13-17:
13Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human authority: whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority, 14or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right. 15For it is God’s will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish people. 16Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as God’s slaves. 17Show proper respect to everyone, love the family of believers, fear God, honor the emperor.

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newbie
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I'm sorry, but this post made my day Grin Grin

Okay, in this hypothetical country are you're comparing meat with something like drugs or weapons? In that case, yes, you're gonna break the law. However, if some country startyв to value the animals/human health that much, they would forbid any animal origin products and become a fully vegan country, as diary food and egg production is pretty violent too.
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Never heard of a country that is straight vegetarian and is forbidden to eat any meat.
As far as i know India is ranked top in the world with 38% of the total population being vegetarians.


No religion I know of forbids eating meat
Islam forbids eating pork.

It's just pork not meat in general.

The pork example also applies in this case... would you kill and eat pig meat if you're starving in the forest with your friends and find a pig close by?
I believe the answer would be yes for many in the country that bans the meat.. It's moral to eat it with your friends and survive than to let everyone starve to death due to the country's law on pork. This can be easily proven to be a right decision in any just court.

ofc. i totally agree with you. if i had to i would eat every pig in country.

meanwhile in India ...

"Four Muslims in India have been killed by predominantly Hindu mobs after they were suspected of either eating beef or slaughtering a cow, considered sacred by the country's majority Hindus."
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Never heard of a country that is straight vegetarian and is forbidden to eat any meat.
As far as i know India is ranked top in the world with 38% of the total population being vegetarians.


No religion I know of forbids eating meat
Islam forbids eating pork.

It's just pork not meat in general.

The pork example also applies in this case... would you kill and eat pig meat if you're starving in the forest with your friends and find a pig close by?
I believe the answer would be yes for many in the country that bans the meat.. It's moral to eat it with your friends and survive than to let everyone starve to death due to the country's law on pork. This can be easily proven to be a right decision in any just court.
jr. member
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Never heard of a country that is straight vegetarian and is forbidden to eat any meat.
As far as i know India is ranked top in the world with 38% of the total population being vegetarians.


No religion I know of forbids eating meat
Islam forbids eating pork.

It's just pork not meat in general.
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I will not debate anything with that. If the country where I'm in says that it's not allowed to do so, I'll follow the rule. To me, that's a very simple thing to do.

Respect and obedience should be at the top.


The question basically trying to solve the problem of whether to obey immoral/bad/unjust laws.
Should we obey or disobey bad/immoral laws? How do we determine what law is bad or immoral? If your country bans the eating of certain good fruits (perhaps due to misinformation, wrong or unscientific studies) , while you and others rely on the fruits for your health/survival, would you obey? Or if your country bans the teaching of your kids about GOD, would you obey?
I strongly believe you don't obey bad laws (if you're sure the law bad. *You will need to prove to people/court it is actually bad*). You have to handle the issue in sensible manner in order not to create problems.
Everything GOD says is good can be proven good in court or to people, no matter the country. A just society will certainly approve or consider, while the unjust will wrongly fight it.
As I have said, I won't debate with that unless the time comes that there's a certain country that bans the diet of most people or certain people, and to be specific, they ban good fruits base on your example.

Given the situation and the time has come, we believe that "for every rule, there is an exception".

No religion I know of forbids eating meat
Islam forbids eating pork.
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If I am in a country that forbids or band the eating of meat, I will not break that rule, because I respect the governments, and it would not be a problem for me to eat vegetarian food. I need to adapt to the current situations everywhere I stay because I don't want to get a problem while staying. I am sure that even if I eat vegetarian food, my body will be okay, and I think that can help me have a healthy life.
legendary
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No religion I know of forbids eating meat, fuck god and religion tho. Where's my bacon suit.

I will not debate anything with that. If the country where I'm in says that it's not allowed to do so, I'll follow the rule. To me, that's a very simple thing to do.

Respect and obedience should be at the top.
Respect is okay, obedience means you a lamb.

Not touching any country that says shit.
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Man is an omnivore, and I believe that vegetarians have dietary deficiencies. If I was in a country that banned the sale of meat, then I would eat road kill.





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Man is an omnivore, and I believe that vegetarians have dietary deficiencies. If I was in a country that banned the sale of meat, then I would eat road kill.
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There are really only three ways you are in a country:
1. You are a child or minor, and you were born there, or your parents or guardians took you there (similar to 3, below);
2. You are there by agreement, because you want to be;
3. You are a hostage.

It is wrong for children or minors to go against the wishes of the people who are their guardians or parents... provided those wishes are not violently dangerous.

If you are a hostage, you don't really have control, anyway, so anything goes. They'll simply execute you if they don't like what you are doing. If you don't obey your captors, all you are doing is placing yourself outside the realm of your captors, especially if they execute you.

If you are there by agreement, it is only right to follow the terms of your agreement. Work at getting out of your agreement if you find out you don't like it, and move out of the country.

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Ucy
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I will not debate anything with that. If the country where I'm in says that it's not allowed to do so, I'll follow the rule. To me, that's a very simple thing to do.

Respect and obedience should be at the top.


The question basically trying to solve the problem of whether to obey immoral/bad/unjust laws.
Should we obey or disobey bad/immoral laws? How do we determine what law is bad or immoral? If your country bans the eating of certain good fruits (perhaps due to misinformation, wrong or unscientific studies) , while you and others rely on the fruits for your health/survival, would you obey? Or if your country bans the teaching of your kids about GOD, would you obey?
I strongly believe you don't obey bad laws (if you're sure the law bad. *You will need to prove to people/court it is actually bad*). You have to handle the issue in sensible manner in order not to create problems.
Everything GOD says is good can be proven good in court or to people, no matter the country. A just society will certainly approve or consider, while the unjust will wrongly fight it.
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