I just wanted to learn the factors you consider when you are about to decide to Call or Fold.
Maybe calculating how much you win or lose before deciding, which information do you look from the All-in player?
VP, PFR, STIL, CB and etc..
Topic: Do you calculate before deciding to Fold or Call? (Read 2376 times)
I just wanted to learn the factors you consider when you are about to decide to Call or Fold.
Maybe calculating how much you win or lose before deciding, which information do you look from the All-in player?
VP, PFR, STIL, CB and etc..
I always know how pot commited I am or how pot commited I will
be if I make a big call. Math is super important, you cant call $50
chasing $10 with only a 15% chance to hit a flush...
be if I make a big call. Math is super important, you cant call $50
chasing $10 with only a 15% chance to hit a flush...
I did everything in accordance with the feeling, if the good feeling I will be all in, but if in doubt I fold.
em.. not really usually i just go based on my feeling
but if the opponent raise the bet, i usually do some calculation to guess the cards
but eventhough i used calculation the last decision also based on my feeling
but if the opponent raise the bet, i usually do some calculation to guess the cards
but eventhough i used calculation the last decision also based on my feeling
I use to trust my instinct too until I lost all my chips, it could work for you though. Playing online is very much different than the real on but but how often do you win for a number of hero calls?
em.. not really usually i just go based on my feeling
but if the opponent raise the bet, i usually do some calculation to guess the cards
but eventhough i used calculation the last decision also based on my feeling
but if the opponent raise the bet, i usually do some calculation to guess the cards
but eventhough i used calculation the last decision also based on my feeling
Bottom line is it is gambling still. Even if you make all the right calculations before calling or folding there is always a chance you can end up losing everything
when you are doing the right calculation there is no chance that you will end up losing everything , these calculations involve bankroll management , a successful poker player will never end up losing everything cause he should know his limits and the possibility of hitting a big swing
poker is so complicated games , we can't simply consider it as a gambling game without giving details about it
if you are a good player you will never face a losing year , for me I have never had a losing month even after hitting a big swing I recover and make proift at the end of the month , and so many players are facing the same thing
This is part of poker to take in your calculation all the possibilities before fold or call and that I do.Poker can not go just on pure luck base because this can make you one or two hands but you can not keep going just blindly.Taking in consideration all aspect make you minimum loss in case you don't have good cards.
its all about your gut feeling. 
In many cases yes, but sometimes u need to play with your head. Observing players and cards, try to guess style of your opponents. There is patterns for everyone, good players hide it better u need to try more. I`m repeatin myself often but u need to find your own style, and its best to mix things, cause when u are predictable u are easy catch for someone. When u are not u have advantage and u just need to use it smart. Good luck in poker, sure u will need it.
its all about your gut feeling.
you need it if u wanna get profits in the long term, the winning probability is bigger than the percentage of your investment on pot, you should call, otherwise fold is better, sometimes we can call if our opponents are bluffers, easy to catch their bluffs and then make big money on them.
Bottom line is it is gambling still. Even if you make all the right calculations before calling or folding there is always a chance you can end up losing everything
If the opponent is a confirm bluffer I will call If I feel I have better cards than him.
How are you going to confirm that your opponent is bluff or not? You are making some speculation right?
Well you should be watching the way your opponents play and and study their betting pattern. If you play online and have a software like holdem manager, you life gets a lot easier. You should also study their range of hands, to see if they are loose players and play many hands or if they are tight.
You can't really tell if a player is bluffing or not, that is movie stuff in my opinion, but when you combine all the that data, betting pattern, style of play etc, you can use that to make better decisions. You will still be caught in a bluff of course, but your winning chances will improve, and you could also improve the correct timing/opportunity to make your own bluff against your opponent.
But that is not always perfect, you will not get this if you miss a little thing here. And there is a lot of player there I dont think you will investigate every people by looking at their playing. And you will not have enough time to calculate everything just in short of time
If the opponent is a confirm bluffer I will call If I feel I have better cards than him.
How are you going to confirm that your opponent is bluff or not? You are making some speculation right?
Well you should be watching the way your opponents play and and study their betting pattern. If you play online and have a software like holdem manager, you life gets a lot easier. You should also study their range of hands, to see if they are loose players and play many hands or if they are tight.
You can't really tell if a player is bluffing or not, that is movie stuff in my opinion, but when you combine all the that data, betting pattern, style of play etc, you can use that to make better decisions. You will still be caught in a bluff of course, but your winning chances will improve, and you could also improve the correct timing/opportunity to make your own bluff against your opponent.
i usually play without thinking too much about the whole game what to do and how to play i just hope that i will be lucky and have better cards than opponents
In doing that, you might win in a pure luck game such as dice. Brain power has to be used to win poker or blackjack game. The late two games are played against other players.
That's true in gambling every one thinks that they are very smart and they can fool others but at the end luck is very smart and luck will win all the bets. If your are lucky on a given day then surely you will win gambling otherwise you will sure lose even you go with full of calculations. No calculations will work in gambling just pure luck will win.
If the opponent is a confirm bluffer I will call If I feel I have better cards than him.
How are you going to confirm that your opponent is bluff or not? You are making some speculation right?
i usually play without thinking too much about the whole game what to do and how to play i just hope that i will be lucky and have better cards than opponents
In doing that, you might win in a pure luck game such as dice. Brain power has to be used to win poker or blackjack game. The late two games are played against other players.
i usually play without thinking too much about the whole game what to do and how to play i just hope that i will be lucky and have better cards than opponents
Things I should consider before I fold are call.
1. My chances of winning
2. The pot amount
3. My total chips
4. The opponent
If my odds of wining is above 50 percent, I would call.
If pot amount is already big and the amount I need to call is small I will call. Provided I have above 25% chances I will win.
If I have many chips and the amount I need to call is very small and I have chance to win I will call.
If the opponent is a confirm bluffer I will call If I feel I have better cards than him.
1. My chances of winning
2. The pot amount
3. My total chips
4. The opponent
If my odds of wining is above 50 percent, I would call.
If pot amount is already big and the amount I need to call is small I will call. Provided I have above 25% chances I will win.
If I have many chips and the amount I need to call is very small and I have chance to win I will call.
If the opponent is a confirm bluffer I will call If I feel I have better cards than him.
So basically you are just rewording exactly what I wrote. If I have a 50% chance of winning and I am invested 10BTC. And the raise is .5BTC You are damn right I am calling. If you fold you are an idiot.
You went the other way saying if you have 20% odds with 50% profit return, then you will stay.
In your example it seems that you are giving more attention to your winning chances. I was just trying to say that I don't care about the winning chances alone. They could just be 20% or 1%, if comparing the pot odds with the winning odds proves to be a profitable play in the long run I will take it, even if I will probably lose that hand, because the winning odds are low.
The problem with most players is that they only look to winning odds most of the time.
Yes, a lot people play on that way, and just pro player who play well and see the game with 'Wide View'.
You should have a good idea of what your odds are that you can win or not. Now nothing is for sure in poker because anything can happen, but if you have say a 50% chance to win, and you have invested a lot of money in there it might be worth it to call depending on how much they raise.
For some reason your statement is good because we already bet a lot money on pot and we still have more than 50% odds for win. But in poker we really need to see the game play and the opponent.
Is that bluff or maybe they got flush or straight on 'turn' or 'river'.
In that case our 50% odds maybe just Two Pair or Threes.
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