Do you consider ICO's/ETH a "BUBBLE"?

masterrex

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Quote from: Hello_Bubble_World on October 22, 2018, 03:16:46 PM

ICO's are really big business these days.

"An economic bubble or asset bubble (sometimes also referred to as a speculative bubble, a market bubble, a price bubble, a financial bubble, a speculative mania, or a balloon) is trade in an asset at a price or price range that strongly exceeds the asset's intrinsic value.
Economic bubble" - Wikipedia

Intrinsic Value Definition | Investopedia
"Intrinsic value is the perceived or calculated value of a company, including tangible and intangible factors, using fundamental analysis. Also called the true value, the intrinsic value may or may not be the same as the current market value."

google: current market value of ICO's?

Exact definitions are not the point:
Do YOU consider ICO's/ETH a "BUBBLE"?
Discuss
Why or why not?

Definitely not why are you just point some meaning from Wiki"s they don't understand how crypto-currency works.We the users and investors has knowledge how crypto works just remember how crypto function its speculative in nature, its highly volatile and react with the publicity arround if its good or Bad. Ethereum soaring of prices was due to the demand from investors and its used case the "Smartcontracts" and its not a bubble the price was decline due to some bad decision to liquidate a large quantity of Ethers in the bear market and because of this the market was not able to absorb the dumping spree! that's why the ethereum price was down.

GmBoom

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I might also consider this, because not all ico, especially right now is all legit. Some of it is a scam. If you turn your investment on a scam ico, then surely your investment is turning into a bubble instead of expecting massive times folds of gains. So better be careful on choosing ico projects.

Lighthouze

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A few ICO's may be considered a bubble especially as some of them have turned out to be scams, but not all and certainly not ETH. Though the era of floating next to useless projects and tokens and making millions out of them is now over, there are still a few projects out there in the space that will stand the test of time and actually do have use cases that are applicable in the real world.

hacker1001101001

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Nowadays there are many ICO scam has consistently happened. And this is not good for the crypto market. Investors has afraid and not coming forward to making investments. So due to these scammers, the reputation of the crypto market has become worst.

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If you look at every major technological innovation for the last three centuries they created bubbles. Steam Engines, Steel, Railways, Electricity, Automobiles, Semi-conductors ,Internet.... All of them created a bubble as people rushed to invest in the next new thing. All of those things did not end once the bubble did. In fact you could argue that without investment bubbles and people putting time, energy and treasure into the next big thing that innovation would be so starved of capital that we would still be living in caves.

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I consider ICO/ Ethereum has experiment that has to be made in order to try new concept of trading and receiving cryptocurrency value. Ethereum has created a platform that take cryptocurrency out of theory to practicals!

CryptoGosu

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I think it's hard to launch a successful blockchain project. Too few people understand this and are ready to become the first users. Therefore, it will be difficult for ICO-projects.

MAXE

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Of course, there are a lot of coins and projects that can be really bad for the state of your business, but not those, I am sure.

Holla123

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Quote from: Hello_Bubble_World on October 22, 2018, 03:16:46 PM

ICO's are really big business these days.

"An economic bubble or asset bubble (sometimes also referred to as a speculative bubble, a market bubble, a price bubble, a financial bubble, a speculative mania, or a balloon) is trade in an asset at a price or price range that strongly exceeds the asset's intrinsic value.
Economic bubble" - Wikipedia

Intrinsic Value Definition | Investopedia
"Intrinsic value is the perceived or calculated value of a company, including tangible and intangible factors, using fundamental analysis. Also called the true value, the intrinsic value may or may not be the same as the current market value."

google: current market value of ICO's?

Exact definitions are not the point:
Do YOU consider ICO's/ETH a "BUBBLE"?
Discuss
Why or why not?

ETH I do not consider a bubble. Looking at ICOs the number of cash grabs and scams has clearly increased. Still every ICO got hammered in this years bear market. There is a number of interesting projects like Bridge Protocol, Pareto, Lendingblock, Moneytoken or Bigbom that have market caps below 1 million right now. Ah not to forget Hacken or Consensus AI. If you are looking for the next x1000 this might be a place to watch. If you are very opportunistic you might even check Savedroid or Narrative although so far these are projects where you get a feeling that they dont care about their token too much. Narrative will be able to build the platform and current market cap is 700K USD. Market caps for Consenus and Hacken are also jokes. Plain and simple.

P.S. If you are clever you also stock up on tokens like cobinhood. For me one of the big future exchanges for a number of reasons and you will get Dexon, Zeux and SimplyBrand get airdropped soon enough. Dexon the second blocklattice project trying to improve on Nano. Nano got burnt with the bitgrail scam. At least for me.

crzybilly

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ICOs are a huge business. And right now, they have really hard times, because people are afraid of putting their money in ICO. On such a market, it is very hard to launch a token and see the uptrend after the first exchange listing.

bolbau

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not a bubble but volatile, and that is the nature of cryptocurrency today. Bubble is a sentence used by a group of people who do not like cryptocurrency industry, and we as a community must fight it. the decision to invest in ethereum or ICO means that everyone has consciously agreed with all forms of risk. if you don't want to get a loss don't do anything, keep your money in the bank, let them cut it with interest.

aencarnaci

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No I do not. I think there are still a lot of improvements to be made into bitcoin and maybe a new coin that will rise but until than the best way to check how a coin could improve is to have a "testnet" of sorts that would allow you to improve the coin and see how it works and if it really works than you actually implement it.

Now, the most amazing way of doing it is on another coin, if you put something on a new coin and say "here have this" to people they will check it out for you and decide on if they like it or not and according to what they say you can work on your own coin. Bitcoin did not used segwit or LN or anything until litecoin did for example.

Ethereum is a needed coin so we can have many more new coins and keep on improving the cryptocurrency space we have with much better coins that would help the original coins improve.

YuginKadoya

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Most of the post here considered ICO as a bubble Well I think because ICO is surely a newcomer and consider to still don't have any value yet or no specific value yet to begin with and may end up not successful with its target cap, While ETH had something to boast about because of its large market with the newly ERC20 tokens that are established was all base on Ethereum blockchain, I really think that the price of ETH right now is the floor value of it, It doesn't drop so much in the first place but will return to increase its price when the bearish market subsides.

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Quote from: Hello_Bubble_World on October 22, 2018, 03:16:46 PM

ICO's are really big business these days.

"An economic bubble or asset bubble (sometimes also referred to as a speculative bubble, a market bubble, a price bubble, a financial bubble, a speculative mania, or a balloon) is trade in an asset at a price or price range that strongly exceeds the asset's intrinsic value.
Economic bubble" - Wikipedia

Intrinsic Value Definition | Investopedia
"Intrinsic value is the perceived or calculated value of a company, including tangible and intangible factors, using fundamental analysis. Also called the true value, the intrinsic value may or may not be the same as the current market value."

google: current market value of ICO's?

Exact definitions are not the point:
Do YOU consider ICO's/ETH a "BUBBLE"?
Discuss
Why or why not?

i think too much has been done in the course of eth developing to consider it a bubble. yes, this view that cryptocurrency is a bubble are shared by some, and i can't say they are out of their minds. but neither are we.

Tonygold1967

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No I do not think so, I think that it is new generation of payment systems. And for info 80% of money in the banks are digital and are not printed. Can we say that they are bubble? so it will be better to have less drama. But you should of course select good projects and not scams. I will suggest to visit www.icoguide.com they have fair rates it will help you to choose project!

Black Coffee

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I don't think so, all of them still depend on each product, whether it can be useful for the user or not and how far the product can solve a problem.

kumiskura

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ICO is a Bubble absolutely but ETH is not.
The reason why ICO is bubble because people used it as a tool to scam people and because of that people started to wary and afraid of it. just like IPO if you ever heard of it.
and why ETH is not a bubble ? it's because ETH does not have any relation with that ICOs technically, ICO is a strategy while ETH itself is a product.
they can change the strategy but they can not change the product because it has its usability. even if the price declined a lot because of the ICO, it won't change the fact that ETH still has its function in cryptocurrency and will remain the same as a silver for cryptocurrency.

auroboros

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well we never know about it, but this assumption is not new, many experts have had similar predictions about cryptocurrencies they call it "Bubble", and that opinion was first put forward by economists related to Bitcoin in 2013 and up to now it is not completely forgotten, everyone is free to submit opinions and everyone has the right to decide what is good for him. I have a prediction that altcoin will be the future of the global economy, why? of course, because all of us have not been able to prove that the Bubble will happen, everything is just a prediction

deeofficialx

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It might be considered as bubble, yes, but in a pump-and-dump way.

We, at least think a million times when joining and investing in an ICO.

ricatop

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no I do not think so. you can draw parallels with anything, but you called the bitcoin bubble the same way, and what are we seeing now? this bubble has not burst for ten years

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