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Topic: Do you feel ICOs try to raise too much? - page 5. (Read 1759 times)

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December 30, 2017, 01:24:19 AM
Anywhere between $7m and $15m I think is a reasonable figure for ICO capital raised. Most of these business ideas will require a full staff of people to make them work properly as well as renting offices. ICO like Tezos where a little ridiculous and its for the best that those days of hundred millions raised are gone.
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December 30, 2017, 01:15:07 AM
Yes indeed, most ICO try to raise a lot of money then they might ever require. But I think there are few genuine reasons to it.
1) Cost of conducting an ICO has hugely increased, especially in marketing, development, legal etc.
2) Many ICOs keep in mind the future costs of the project and not just current costs.
3) A big target makes a project look more advanced and catches more eyeballs.
4) In the past many projects have gathered quite a lot of investments. So there is obviously a comparison going on. For example if A ICO gathered $5 million, then B ICO aims for $10 million in order to show that it has more community support.
5) Then there is one more thing. There is a common saying "aim your target higher than what you aim to achieve". So if an ICO wants to gather $10 million, it will place the target of $20 million.
6) Obviously there are personal interests of the devs and team as well. Nothing is free in this world and no matter how much we say we are selfless, in reality we all humans are selfish.

As per your question of what we as a community can do. I think instead of trying to bring expectations back to reality, we must choose projects which tend to bring more value in the crypto and non crypto world. As long as we will invest in pump and dump projects, we will see more and more scammy ICOs. Choose projects based on their potential, team, mvp etc. rather than how easily you can dump the coins.

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December 30, 2017, 12:21:42 AM
I think there is an important role here and the ico is necessary and useful for the community.
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December 30, 2017, 12:20:53 AM
It's alright for ICOs to raise much higher. This will benefit them and the potential subscribers. But their main objective should be serving the investors first before thinking of their own gain. Happy customers will be happy members.
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December 29, 2017, 11:52:54 PM
Of course, it is difficult to assess the idea of ​​each ICO project, but there are some cases where their cost was clearly overestimated. On the one hand, the team may be reinsured against unforeseen expenses, and on the other, there are clearly cases of manifestation of the greed of these individuals, because sometimes they see a real opportunity to collect a much larger sum. In addition, I think there is an important role here and, as it were, an external prestige of a large sum to show the grandiosity of such a project.
     However, in any case, the ICO is necessary and useful for the community and for the development of the crypto currency.
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December 29, 2017, 11:40:12 PM
Creating an ICO can help them accomplish a lot of the goals they want, and they can make a lot of money from it. Thus, the massive and uncensored ICO's emergence leads to more and more virtual currency, junk and waste of resources.
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December 29, 2017, 11:30:53 PM
LBRY did not have any ICO, and was VC-funded (Venture capitalist, look it up)

They received 500,000$, which is very modest compared to the sick "bubblelicious" amounts other ICOs have gathered.

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or https://lbry.io for the official page for the LBRY App.
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December 29, 2017, 11:19:02 PM
Of course they do! Tell me, outside of crypto, what kind of huge projects take millions of dollars to develop? Those by major multinational companies with hundreds and thousands of staff and testers and coders in their development team.

If you are a project with a handful of people, do you really need to raise $1 or more million?

The first red flag is this to me. No budget, no statement of costs, no market research. Just some random soft cap and hard cap based on total supply of token or coins, and how much each dev wants to keep in his millionaire fund. Ridiculous, is it not? Absolute nonsense.

Well, you got a good point of view and in addition to that some ICOs are just collecting investments and then they'll vanish to nowhere. I participated an ICO bounty campaign but until now after one month I still haven't receive any tokens and my fellow participants are complaining and we do nothing about it.
Truly I realize that they are collecting excessively cash and contributing increasingly, extra to that they are likewise gallant on finding numerous speculators and purchasers of their mint piece, that is on the grounds that they have so many members and they would prefer not to baffle their bouny seekers by giving little sum
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December 17, 2017, 05:40:30 AM
I think ICO's do try to raise too much. But sadly it's a symptom of the ICO world.

If you are running an ICO and you are seeing that some ICO's are raising over 100 million, why would you not aim for that? You could scale your business / altcoin to another level.

But also it is greedy and it looks bad towards investors.
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December 17, 2017, 05:34:25 AM
It's a form of crowd funding, this can be related to the cryptocurrency network or it can be related to the real life necessity. Here the importance and the uniqueness add the market value to the same and this raises good capital market. Also majority of the projects function with legitimacy, so nothing to indicate this to be a flaw and that to be good.
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December 17, 2017, 05:31:31 AM
I'm unable to put my head around ICO, Airdrops, Forks, I feel Emotion when dealing with blockchain technology. So unsure if something is 'too' much.. Everything is 'too' when using 'too' , maybe 'too content' is ok.

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Edit: forgot the FoMo feelings...
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December 17, 2017, 04:48:43 AM
Hey, I'm interested in everyone's opinions on this. I find so often when looking for ICOs I come across something that sounds like a good idea but then am instantly put off when they all seem to trying to raise 10s of millions for something I would deem could be perfectly possible with only a couple of million or even less.

 Do you feel that ICOs tend to try and raise too much? If yes, do you think this is out of greed for their own personal gain or simply because they over estimate the worth of their idea?

 Do you feel there is anything we can do as a community to bring expectations back to reality? Other than waiting for ICOs to continually under perform and then eventually expectations adjust?
Yes, put me off to for some ICO have so big cap while not really 'have' that.
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December 17, 2017, 04:47:09 AM
Yes, they try to raise too much money this days, if you look at the old days where project like nxt , neo and stratis collect less than 1 million and still doing fine with that kind amount of money. ICO nowdays try to raise as much as possible and i personally avoid something that set the hardcap way more than i think is enough to run the project.
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December 17, 2017, 04:46:06 AM
Yes, for now, just a ICO project is prone to tens of millions of dollars, this is a game of speculation, it did not need so much money, FortKnoxster this project is very good, need money, but just a little.
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December 17, 2017, 04:43:40 AM
And BTW I forgot the fact that lots of ICOs even do not spend money on marketing because they start bounty campaign on forum that is paid in their tokens!
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December 17, 2017, 01:24:02 AM
The amount of money ICO may be asking for may seem to big but when you look at the scope of the idea be presented and the market they are trying to reach, such raised amount might look insignificant in the long run.
But it seems that ICO's now aren't really can be trusted because of having affected by some scam project. It's really hard to speculate which one will stay in the market and which one will keep on moving. But I'll still believe some of them will show their competitiveness and go further. The big factor that may affect their lifespan is the community, as they provide a good project then probably people will keep it promoting.
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December 17, 2017, 01:05:04 AM
Recently I've been seeing the same too. Some of them justify by saying, some amount of ICO will be used in getting their tokens listed on major exchanges, and the other part of it going towards the development of their project. Someone mentioned too above, they ask for $10M even though their requirement is maximum of $1M. So yeah, ICOs are raising too much these days.
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December 17, 2017, 12:58:02 AM
I think that most of these ICOs raise huge capital for greed while there are some of them that had raised that much as rough estimate and know wrong intention .The new fundraising dynamic has helped companies raise more than $1.7 billion this year to date. Huge sums of money tend to catch the attention, but experts in the industry argue that there’s far more to ICOs, also known as token sales, than simply the cash. Finally,
there are many ICOs that are scam simpily because of these huge cash raised in the genuine ICOs.
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December 16, 2017, 10:10:34 PM
Hey, I'm interested in everyone's opinions on this. I find so often when looking for ICOs I come across something that sounds like a good idea but then am instantly put off when they all seem to trying to raise 10s of millions for something I would deem could be perfectly possible with only a couple of million or even less.

 Do you feel that ICOs tend to try and raise too much? If yes, do you think this is out of greed for their own personal gain or simply because they over estimate the worth of their idea?

 Do you feel there is anything we can do as a community to bring expectations back to reality? Other than waiting for ICOs to continually under perform and then eventually expectations adjust?
Yes, the current ICO project does take too much money, and a good idea worth tens of millions of dollars? This is clearly a speculative game.
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December 16, 2017, 06:05:32 PM
Before launching successfull ICO you have to spend more than 300 000$ only on marketing. And here is still much risks. So it's not interesting to rise less than 5 000 000$, I think.
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