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Topic: Do you feel ICOs try to raise too much? - page 6. (Read 1770 times)

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December 16, 2017, 05:47:52 PM
Hey, I'm interested in everyone's opinions on this. I find so often when looking for ICOs I come across something that sounds like a good idea but then am instantly put off when they all seem to trying to raise 10s of millions for something I would deem could be perfectly possible with only a couple of million or even less.

 Do you feel that ICOs tend to try and raise too much? If yes, do you think this is out of greed for their own personal gain or simply because they over estimate the worth of their idea?

 Do you feel there is anything we can do as a community to bring expectations back to reality? Other than waiting for ICOs to continually under perform and then eventually expectations adjust?
I think they are just trying to do some estimations and they have such a great confidence upon issuing the price of their ICO because they think that this will be popular to the community upon advertising it with regards to the price that will attract many potential investors and consumers. I think it is not because of gree but maybe they are just too confident that issuing that large price will make people really attracted into it.
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December 16, 2017, 05:46:20 PM
i believe that icos is the future. . everyday is getting bigger and bigger the icos team
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December 16, 2017, 05:41:04 PM
There were some ICOs that were trying to raise too much. take Trade.io for example, they wanted to seel 200-300 TIO for 1 ETH. Now the realised the mistake and made a change, right in the middle of the pre-ICO. 2500TIO = 1ETH. Better to realise sooner than later.
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December 16, 2017, 05:40:36 PM
ICO's goal is to collect alt-coin lots so it makes sense to make a very interesting thing for their ICO so that many follow it
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December 16, 2017, 05:37:13 PM
HAHA, EOS is a perfect example of super greedy ICO. I don't think ICO need THAT much money for development at all...
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December 04, 2017, 02:06:52 PM
The amount of money ICO may be asking for may seem to big but when you look at the scope of the idea be presented and the market they are trying to reach, such raised amount might look insignificant in the long run.
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December 04, 2017, 01:58:54 PM
Yes, but not all. Few ICO want to raise more than they need for the project.
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December 04, 2017, 12:44:36 PM
Hey, I'm interested in everyone's opinions on this. I find so often when looking for ICOs I come across something that sounds like a good idea but then am instantly put off when they all seem to trying to raise 10s of millions for something I would deem could be perfectly possible with only a couple of million or even less.

 Do you feel that ICOs tend to try and raise too much? If yes, do you think this is out of greed for their own personal gain or simply because they over estimate the worth of their idea?

 Do you feel there is anything we can do as a community to bring expectations back to reality? Other than waiting for ICOs to continually under perform and then eventually expectations adjust?
Not all of them. Most of them do try to raise too much and that is one of the things I get to look at anyway before trying to invest in a project. There is just some amount of cash that is too much and then you wonder what the point is for raising such a huge amount of money for a project that can even kick start without much. Well, I will consider it greed and most of these projects end up not doing well eventually.

I usually always avoid ICOs that are uncapped or have very high caps.  I just feel it is much harder to see profits.  Many of these projects with high caps usually drop below the ICO price when it first hits the exchanges, especially if they also offer bounty campaigns.  This just messes up things for investors.  
Any high cap ICOs usually have a lot of difficulty in growing fast and always difficult for the investors to get so much from the coin at the end. As long as a project is viable and it has a good product that can easily fly, with a very low cap, they can do better, but most of these devs are just looking for quick ways to raise a lot of money for something that do not even need too much out of greed.

Of course not all of them. I think you are right in that it is simply just greed and for me too it is often an indicator that the project will not be too successful. I just feel like there should be something that can be done to curb it in such a way that they are only raising amounts that they really need. Of course for many investors it is easy to identify when an ICO is asking too much but for other investors they do not know such things and just see it as the norm.
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December 01, 2017, 09:10:59 AM
I think so, ICO is too big in determining hardcap target. I do not understand why ICO needs too much money, whereas there are some ICOs that are still just plans and dont have working product yet. The money is in use for what, probably all ICO should reduce the hardcap targets and maximize the quality of products that have been planned to give more benefits and  profit to the investors.

On the other if they would have a working product, they will not a need get money from ICO. I would like to see more team that have working product and want to raise some money for expanding but it's just a wish.
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November 28, 2017, 02:53:50 AM
I think so, ICO is too big in determining hardcap target. I do not understand why ICO needs too much money, whereas there are some ICOs that are still just plans and dont have working product yet. The money is in use for what, probably all ICO should reduce the hardcap targets and maximize the quality of products that have been planned to give more benefits and  profit to the investors.
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November 27, 2017, 11:56:48 PM
I am not sure about the change on ICO

But ICO has changed, previously project could be successful although it take long time to finish the roadmap.

ICO now works different, everything is changed. People look at teams, project roadmap (People want it done as fast as possible, as everyone is looking for short term flip). And ICO now are calculated in millions compare to the olden days where only range within Hundred-K (Its alot in the past 2 year)
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November 27, 2017, 11:52:48 PM
It is a very simple fact that if every dev team want to raise as much as they can if they can do that. It is the investors that should know the risks.
You right, sometime they raise more than what they need, and those ico is not care about early investors profit.
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November 27, 2017, 10:38:30 PM
This is the time of the greed. ETH ICO raised the nice amount of money and also gained the trust of the fellow investors. That particular ICO started a chain of other projects raising funds to cover the expenses of their projects. Many developers in this situations are starting false campaigns that are closed after the end of the ICO shutting the door to investor and scamming everyone involved. There are many scams and many of developers see the easy money that they can gain easy with investors backing their projects. Many of them want too many funds covering not so promising projects and to evade investing in that kind of projects only solution is to make a deep research and invest smartly and with caution.
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November 26, 2017, 04:46:42 PM
I agree with OP. I think ICOs set incredibly high hardcaps, only because of greedy flipper investors who make this behavior possible...
Like one ICO from Israel (Spheris ), yes they set hardcap too big so ICO did not succeed.
this is very important for ICO not to target too much achievement.
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November 26, 2017, 03:27:13 PM
ICOs raising too much because it was made exactly to be like that and when the developers are satisfied to the investments they will eventually dump the project and take away all the investment and you will get rekt so stay away fro these ICOs.
If that's your only experience with ICOs you haven't put in enough effort to identify good ones. There are numerous out there that are serious and in the future there will be even more. Of course, a lot of people will "get rekt" in the process, but that's not because of ICOs. It's because they throw their money at anything that sounds big instead of doing deep research before choosing.

True to that. At first I didn't know what to look for in an ICO project but corrected my mistake so I would not get rekt and did research not just on the project and read the white paper but also did more digging on the team itself and help me lessen and chose which ICO are worth it. There are still a lot of great ICO's out there and are legit but you got to do the work before investing and wasting your money on a hyped ICO.
It's also a good idea to research the targeted market of the ICO and its size, as well as the potential competition. That gives you a good idea of how much the project might be worth at different points in time.
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November 26, 2017, 03:05:37 PM
I agree with OP. I think ICOs set incredibly high hardcaps, only because of greedy flipper investors who make this behavior possible...
sr. member
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November 26, 2017, 02:57:57 PM
One thing I've learned in the ICO's and altcoins world is that it does no matter the amount they raise but the project itself. You can take by example the NEBL coin which has raised 500 BTC in their ICO and now it's worth more than 20x ico price. Or you can see ATL ICO which raised more than 15M and is worth -60% ico price and it's on their way to be a scam apparently. So it's very subjective ICO's rasing too much because in the end they have nothing to show us but marketing.
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November 26, 2017, 02:39:14 PM
ICOs raising too much because it was made exactly to be like that and when the developers are satisfied to the investments they will eventually dump the project and take away all the investment and you will get rekt so stay away fro these ICOs.
If that's your only experience with ICOs you haven't put in enough effort to identify good ones. There are numerous out there that are serious and in the future there will be even more. Of course, a lot of people will "get rekt" in the process, but that's not because of ICOs. It's because they throw their money at anything that sounds big instead of doing deep research before choosing.

True to that. At first I didn't know what to look for in an ICO project but corrected my mistake so I would not get rekt and did research not just on the project and read the white paper but also did more digging on the team itself and help me lessen and chose which ICO are worth it. There are still a lot of great ICO's out there and are legit but you got to do the work before investing and wasting your money on a hyped ICO.
legendary
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November 26, 2017, 02:14:24 PM
ICOs raising too much because it was made exactly to be like that and when the developers are satisfied to the investments they will eventually dump the project and take away all the investment and you will get rekt so stay away fro these ICOs.
If that's your only experience with ICOs you haven't put in enough effort to identify good ones. There are numerous out there that are serious and in the future there will be even more. Of course, a lot of people will "get rekt" in the process, but that's not because of ICOs. It's because they throw their money at anything that sounds big instead of doing deep research before choosing.
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November 26, 2017, 01:57:20 PM
ICOs raising too much because it was made exactly to be like that and when the developers are satisfied to the investments they will eventually dump the project and take away all the investment and you will get rekt so stay away fro these ICOs.
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