Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? - page 50.

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Quote from: Solosanz on July 22, 2023, 05:15:26 AM

I'm not a rich person, but I have sufficient money to gamble.

If I don't have sufficient money which I used for gambling, it's mean I gamble for making more money. This is not good because if the result I'm not making any money, I will felt remorse after gambling.

We as a gambler should gamble when we already have sufficient money, don't force yourself to always gamble every week even though your income aren't stable enough.

As a gambler, we must also know how to limit our expenses in gambling. Not because we have sufficient money we can gamble our whole life and not manage our limitations because even if you have thousands of millions today, it will drain fast for sure. So before it happens, we have to be sure that still we are in our control and never think that we have a lot of money to spend but must to stick the limit otherwise, this will lead to getting poor.
We should help ourselves to become responsible gamblers.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on July 22, 2023, 03:34:26 AM

Both rich and poor gamble and both becomes addicted, but the addiction of a poor man is easily noticeable because of lack of money.

If the addiction of the poor is easily noticeable that means the poor gamble with desperation to meet up with needs and regain his lost money which in any case is not regained because he continues to lose as it is not easy to win often times against the house or the casino. This is the situation in gambling for those who see gambling as source of income or that try to get huge jackpot from gambling.

Most are like that, but gambling addiction for those who are poor is very dangerous because it can have quite severe negative impacts, such as daring to borrow some money or even commit some criminal acts depending on whether their minds can still be controlled.
Most of them think they can be lucky and get wealth to change their lives, but actually all of that is wrong because getting a win to be able to change the fate of gambling is not an easy thing.

The difference is very clear between a rich gambler and a poor gambler.
A rich gambler is likely to win very big in gambling because they would not attached so much emotion to it, because they already have money and again, they will have high-staking power in gambling which will easily turn to higher returns.
But a poor gambler will use small amount of money to chase a big win which might never happen.
And the more they lose, the more they make some revenge gambling which will lead them into addiction. The result of it is social menace of stealing and other types of vices.

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I'm not a rich person, but I have sufficient money to gamble.

If I don't have sufficient money which I used for gambling, it's mean I gamble for making more money. This is not good because if the result I'm not making any money, I will felt remorse after gambling.

We as a gambler should gamble when we already have sufficient money, don't force yourself to always gamble every week even though your income aren't stable enough.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on July 21, 2023, 09:47:05 AM

I was in argument with someone. His view is that people who gamble are those that what they have is not sufficient for them and so they try to make more money from gambling. He said if you have sufficient money to take care of your needs that you won't think of gambling. He made reference to some rich people, who don't gamble because they have sufficient money to even gift to charity but that those rich who still gamble are only addicted to it not just because of the money. Therefore, that the percentage of the rich gambling is very small compared to those in middle class and lower class.

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?

The percentage of the rich people gambling is lower, no doubt about that, but maybe that's because there are fewer rich people than poor people? Another explanation would be that rich people are more educated, and the level of their education allows them to know that making money through gambling is a stupid idea.

But no way I would agree with the notion that "rich people don't need to gamble because they have enough money".

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Quote from: Gozie51 on July 22, 2023, 04:08:09 AM

Quote from: uchegod-21 on July 22, 2023, 03:34:26 AM

Both rich and poor gamble and both becomes addicted, but the addiction of a poor man is easily noticeable because of lack of money.

If the addiction of the poor is easily noticeable that means the poor gamble with desperation to meet up with needs and regain his lost money which in any case is not regained because he continues to lose as it is not easy to win often times against the house or the casino. This is the situation in gambling for those who see gambling as source of income or that try to get huge jackpot from gambling.

Most are like that, but gambling addiction for those who are poor is very dangerous because it can have quite severe negative impacts, such as daring to borrow some money or even commit some criminal acts depending on whether their minds can still be controlled.
Most of them think they can be lucky and get wealth to change their lives, but actually all of that is wrong because getting a win to be able to change the fate of gambling is not an easy thing.

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That's the sad reality of life. If you go to slum areas, for sure, a lot of them are into gambling.
Though we don't know the statistics on this, yet, I believe, there are so many poor people who are into gambling.
Lottery alone for example, a lot are betting on this hoping that they will hit the jackpot, and most bettors just have enough money for food.
In my case, I only gamble if I have extra, I stop if I know I am going beyond my allotted amount.

That's what happened to my friend, and we were lucky that he was still invited to come back and get advice from his friends so he could stop playing gambling with cards. I can't imagine what would have happened to him if he couldn't give up playing traditional cards. Perhaps, now he has become a heavy gambling addict.

It also happens in other places where people who don't have much money risk their money to buy lottery tickets which can be bought cheaply. They have been doing this for a long time, hoping to win money to add to their bankroll. They don't think about looking for a job that can provide more money, but they decide to play gambling.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on July 22, 2023, 03:34:26 AM

I do not gamble because I need money. I only gamble on sports bet and the reason I do that is to enable be get entertainment while watching the match. For instance if Manchester City is playing with Liverpool, I know that it will be a tough match and to increase the tension and entertainment, I will bet on the outcome of the match. With that, I'll not miss any scene in the match.

Both rich and poor gamble and both becomes addicted, but the addiction of a poor man is easily noticeable because of lack of money.

In my view, you embody the quintessential individual who finds delight in the realm of gambling. Your primary objective is not to seek profit through gambling, and I share this sentiment as well, for I do not actively pursue gains in games of chance. However, should I happen to emerge victorious in such a venture, it brings me joy to acquire some extra funds. On the contrary, if fortune does not favor me and I incur a loss, I do not dwell on it excessively, as I have mentally prepared myself for the possibility of parting with that money.

For the affluent, gambling often assumes the guise of a multifaceted enterprise, intertwined with other businesses, such as the realm of entertainment. Many perceive it as a form of amusement, observing individuals engage in high-stakes wagers and reveling in their grand triumphs. I often find pleasure in witnessing poker games, where participants may bet anywhere from $100 to $50,000, making it a captivating spectacle for the public to behold.

There might exist other enterprises within the gambling world, involving monumental sums that leave one astounded.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on July 22, 2023, 03:34:26 AM

Both rich and poor gamble and both becomes addicted, but the addiction of a poor man is easily noticeable because of lack of money.

If the addiction of the poor is easily noticeable that means the poor gamble with desperation to meet up with needs and regain his lost money which in any case is not regained because he continues to lose as it is not easy to win often times against the house or the casino. This is the situation in gambling for those who see gambling as source of income or that try to get huge jackpot from gambling.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 22, 2023, 03:47:30 AM

The rich are rich usually because they are smart with finances and investments, not because they gamble and got lucky. They may partake in a casino trip here and there but they're not gambling millions of dollars a day. I don't know the percentages, but I think most people are gambling for entertainment regardless of their status in society.

It is good to gamble responsibly. And if a gambler is gambling responsibly, he needs to have gambling budget and it should be very small in percentage to the 100 percentage of what he is earning every week. But in reality, some people see gambling as a way to make money and they become addicted and they later sufferred losses. I have read on an article before that 20% of gamblers are likely to be addicts. Which is truly that not still most people in the population.

Among the American rich people, I have read a PDF before that compared between how rich people are gambling and how much they spend on vacation. It was estimated that rich people spend much on gambling, but which is still less than the amount they spend on vacation.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on July 21, 2023, 09:47:05 AM

I was in argument with someone. His view is that people who gamble are those that what they have is not sufficient for them and so they try to make more money from gambling. He said if you have sufficient money to take care of your needs that you won't think of gambling. He made reference to some rich people, who don't gamble because they have sufficient money to even gift to charity but that those rich who still gamble are only addicted to it not just because of the money. Therefore, that the percentage of the rich gambling is very small compared to those in middle class and lower class.

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?

The rich are rich usually because they are smart with finances and investments, not because they gamble and got lucky. They may partake in a casino trip here and there but they're not gambling millions of dollars a day. I don't know the percentages, but I think most people are gambling for entertainment regardless of their status in society.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on July 21, 2023, 09:47:05 AM

I was in argument with someone. His view is that people who gamble are those that what they have is not sufficient for them and so they try to make more money from gambling. He said if you have sufficient money to take care of your needs that you won't think of gambling. He made reference to some rich people, who don't gamble because they have sufficient money to even gift to charity but that those rich who still gamble are only addicted to it not just because of the money. Therefore, that the percentage of the rich gambling is very small compared to those in middle class and lower class.

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?

I do not gamble because I need money. I only gamble on sports bet and the reason I do that is to enable be get entertainment while watching the match. For instance if Manchester City is playing with Liverpool, I know that it will be a tough match and to increase the tension and entertainment, I will bet on the outcome of the match. With that, I'll not miss any scene in the match.

Both rich and poor gamble and both becomes addicted, but the addiction of a poor man is easily noticeable because of lack of money.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on July 21, 2023, 09:47:05 AM

I was in argument with someone. His view is that people who gamble are those that what they have is not sufficient for them and so they try to make more money from gambling.

Your friend is saying out of his own idea, if someone can fund his betting account from his bank I don't think he don't have money for financial needs but if a gambler can go to a betting shop to stake game with his hand hold cash I really think he's trying to add more to it besides that's from his own thoughts.
Nowadays almost everybody thinks that money in the bank is way more bigger than money at hand, someone can easily fund more than what he's/she budgets because he isn't seen the money, if the money is in the hand of a gambler it can be more safer to gamble with because it's been buget.

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Quote from: swogerino on July 22, 2023, 02:56:08 AM

Yes it is and I can also be sure of this as I don't see any of my boss close relatives who have a lot of money to never gamble,well except his nephew who despite having loads of money was totally addicted to gambling that he lost everything there,the car,the house and every single penny,he lived at rent before he died as he was relatively old for gambling that much and the stress levels created by such life he conducted brought him to destruction.Except him all other persons close to the boss who happen to be his relatives too they don't have the need to gamble as they have far more enough money than they need,so yes it is true in gambling the percentage of people who are rich is much lower than other classes.

Even if someone first tries to use gambling to earn extra money, or to make it their main source, they will quickly realize that gambling will not be able to give them what they are looking for. But so will those who can become addicted to it, at first out of a desire to recoup, and then perhaps just in pursuit of adrenaline. The rich probably don't play for the money...

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Although based on the news spreading around that make we think most of gamblers are the poor and middle class, but I think the number of gambler is mostly dominated with the rich class. This is because the rich have set how much they want to gamble, let's say 2% of their monthly income, such amount isn't really high and when they lose, they're fine. While the poor and middle class tend to gamble with all of their money, when they lose, they will cry and the medias will create stories about their gambling experience.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on July 21, 2023, 09:47:05 AM

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?

IMHO, it's the other way around.

There's majority of these gamblers that are rich but many of them as well have turned into a lower class after they've lost their control in gambling. That's when they've became addicted and a compulsive gambler.

Well, this is a good topic to discuss with and if somebody is experiencing a bad day in gambling and he's damn rich. You'll never know what he can do with his money ready to be gambled on his pocket.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on July 21, 2023, 09:47:05 AM

I was in argument with someone. His view is that people who gamble are those that what they have is not sufficient for them and so they try to make more money from gambling. He said if you have sufficient money to take care of your needs that you won't think of gambling. He made reference to some rich people, who don't gamble because they have sufficient money to even gift to charity but that those rich who still gamble are only addicted to it not just because of the money. Therefore, that the percentage of the rich gambling is very small compared to those in middle class and lower class.

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?

Yes it is and I can also be sure of this as I don't see any of my boss close relatives who have a lot of money to never gamble,well except his nephew who despite having loads of money was totally addicted to gambling that he lost everything there,the car,the house and every single penny,he lived at rent before he died as he was relatively old for gambling that much and the stress levels created by such life he conducted brought him to destruction.Except him all other persons close to the boss who happen to be his relatives too they don't have the need to gamble as they have far more enough money than they need,so yes it is true in gambling the percentage of people who are rich is much lower than other classes.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on July 21, 2023, 09:47:05 AM

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?

It's very obvious and no debate or study is needed to discover this claim. The percentage of the riches gambling is not in anyway close to the percentage of the average class that are gambling. Your friend is however wrong in his perspective at least in my opinion. Every gambler, both addicted and non addicted know that gambling is a game of risk and the chance of your winning is slim, so why would someone with less money thinking of gambling to increase the money knowing that you might end up losing the that little that you have? I know of course people gamble for fun and to also make profit but I don't believe that it's the lack of sufficient money that make people to gamble.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on July 21, 2023, 09:47:05 AM

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?

the person you were arguing with is somewhat correct, from what I remember reading from articles in the past, poor or low-income households tend to gamble more because of the chance of winning a big amount of money(of course people might have other reasons too). That being said, rich people that gamble are not necessarily addicted to gambling, a lot of them might be doing it for entertainment, socializing, etc...

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I think that is wrong.
There are different types of gamblers. Some would like to have fun while chasing a jackpot chance. Some gamble because they are financially challenged. Others made it a hobby to gamble especially in their favorite games either in slot games or in sports betting. So we cannot only rely on one reason why a person starts to gamble.
You may just be arguing against the wrong person especially those who have not yet tried to play in a gambling site or a physical casino. There's fun in it, you can meet different people, you become competitive, or you just want to bring down the house.
I don't think you will against that type of person in an argument.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on July 21, 2023, 09:47:05 AM

I was in argument with someone. His view is that people who gamble are those that what they have is not sufficient for them and so they try to make more money from gambling. He said if you have sufficient money to take care of your needs that you won't think of gambling. He made reference to some rich people, who don't gamble because they have sufficient money to even gift to charity but that those rich who still gamble are only addicted to it not just because of the money. Therefore, that the percentage of the rich gambling is very small compared to those in middle class and lower class.

To each their own. But I have seen that he's partly correct on this one because on those remote areas where there's not that much opportunity, they resort into gambling as a way of living and earning.

Quote from: Gozie51 on July 21, 2023, 09:47:05 AM

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?

You'll never know. Go into renowned gambling places and you'll see a lot of rich people go there and the requirement even is hard for the poor people to get there. That's why the percentage of it are inaccurate because gambling doesn't really have specifics in terms of who are the gamblers and who are not.

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