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Quote from: Perfectbaby on October 22, 2024, 05:01:46 PM

Does it mean that those that are receiving merits are more creative and constructing in their post than the others in your own judgement? To me I will basically say 'No' because some of those who earned enough merits are just a fan of particular users due to either mutual understanding or maybe as you said from local board due to language advantages.

Personally, I would say 'yes' because whoever is getting merit is definitely getting merit by showing his talent or creativity. I think there's no way to look at it both ways because he's getting merit in his efforts through creativity. Her post is better than mine, creativity shines and that's why she gets merite.

And you said about the local board is of course by exposing them in his native language in terms of home facilities and everything he will understand it better if he understands or learns from there. He can get the qualification, you are right I agree with you on this. Agree on the matter. Because we are like other people when we read a post on our local boards, we understand the posts very well, meaning we have no problem.

Quote from: Perfectbaby on October 22, 2024, 05:01:46 PM

That is why you see some local board with poor allocations mostly reports their post to fillippone thread for a review and if they had enough there wouldn't had be a day were you would see people pipeline application just to make sure their post are being noticeable to receive merits.
But then, other thing I noticed is activeness because none would accept to merits inactive no low efforts accounts because they just posted except in some cases were there's a spree then such profile can receive merits.

The only reason for reporting in fillippone threads is that many times we skip important posts. Which were actually merited posts. But they got no merit in those posts so they report to get merit. From fillippone's thread we can see that many important posts deserve merit but are not merited. However, through eight threads they can qualify by presenting their qualification quality full post which is definitely a good thing.

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Quote from: Perfectbaby on October 22, 2024, 05:01:46 PM

Does it mean that those that are receiving merits are more creative and constructing in their post than the others in your own judgement? To me I will basically say 'No' because some of those who earned enough merits are just a fan of particular users due to either mutual understanding or maybe as you said from local board due to language advantages.

In my opinion, others received merits because of how they resposne but you are correct on one point. They are fan of the users talking or maybe due to that status of the one posted. Clearly some admire most high ranking users that even though they dont need such merits still they received it.

Id say reputation relate to the merits given to some users. Others based on true quality. Depends, on each preferences. But theres no harm in that since its always their decision in the end.

Yes, but anyway merits something to be given to people when their post found pleasing our helpful to people, but I wouldn't go further as I can't judge what anyone has decided to do with their merits provided the poster is worth receiving then fine it should be given. Like what theymos said.

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Quote from: Perfectbaby on October 22, 2024, 05:01:46 PM

Does it mean that those that are receiving merits are more creative and constructing in their post than the others in your own judgement? To me I will basically say 'No' because some of those who earned enough merits are just a fan of particular users due to either mutual understanding or maybe as you said from local board due to language advantages.

In my opinion, others received merits because of how they resposne but you are correct on one point. They are fan of the users talking or maybe due to that status of the one posted. Clearly some admire most high ranking users that even though they dont need such merits still they received it.

Id say reputation relate to the merits given to some users. Others based on true quality. Depends, on each preferences. But theres no harm in that since its always their decision in the end.

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Quote from: Smartvirus on October 20, 2024, 04:59:32 PM

Even then, the merits are still based on posts but, you’ll find a certain group of users getting them merits more than others.

Does it mean that those that are receiving merits are more creative and constructing in their post than the others in your own judgement? To me I will basically say 'No' because some of those who earned enough merits are just a fan of particular users due to either mutual understanding or maybe as you said from local board due to language advantages.

That is why you see some local board with poor allocations mostly reports their post to fillippone thread for a review and if they had enough there wouldn't had be a day were you would see people pipeline application just to make sure their post are being noticeable to receive merits.
But then, other thing I noticed is activeness because none would accept to merits inactive no low efforts accounts because they just posted except in some cases were there's a spree then such profile can receive merits.

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Quote from: Shishir99 on October 22, 2024, 12:25:44 AM

Quote from: DYING_S0UL on September 30, 2024, 01:42:23 PM

Firstly, If I like a post then I try to merit it. And secondly, If I know a person, whom I think as a good quality poster, I try to merit those. Something I would even check old post history or even merit history, to determine the situation. For example, I would check whether others merited any of his posts, if yes then what was that, and I would read it myself, and if I agree with the others, I would merit that.

You should check where they came from. You should check their merit history to understand who has been sending merits to them and to whom they send merits. If you do not see any reputed or known forum members' names in their merit history list, then you should understand that that account probably belongs to an alt farm, and they have been abusing merits.

I have seen a lot of accounts like that which I mentioned above. However, since we do not have proof of multi-accounting and abusing the merits, we cannot say anything to them. All you can do is stop sending merits to them and ignore them. I am sure you know some of them as well.

I do, bud!

tbh, everyone has different perception when it comes to sending sMerits. For me, I do check whether it was merited by global members or not. I normally don't check feedbacks but only merit exchange history. Another rule that I follow is, I always give only 1 sMerit per posts, no more than that. Things I like, things I'm interested in, I try to merit those. For example, technical and coding stuff.

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Quote from: DYING_S0UL on September 30, 2024, 01:42:23 PM

Firstly, If I like a post then I try to merit it. And secondly, If I know a person, whom I think as a good quality poster, I try to merit those. Something I would even check old post history or even merit history, to determine the situation. For example, I would check whether others merited any of his posts, if yes then what was that, and I would read it myself, and if I agree with the others, I would merit that.

You should check where they came from. You should check their merit history to understand who has been sending merits to them and to whom they send merits. If you do not see any reputed or known forum members' names in their merit history list, then you should understand that that account probably belongs to an alt farm, and they have been abusing merits.

I have seen a lot of accounts like that which I mentioned above. However, since we do not have proof of multi-accounting and abusing the merits, we cannot say anything to them. All you can do is stop sending merits to them and ignore them. I am sure you know some of them as well.

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Quote from: Russlenat on September 25, 2024, 04:39:28 AM

Personally, there’s nothing wrong with whichever method you prefer, but I'm curious, and I'm sure many others, especially newbies, would like to know some tips. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts, especially from merit sources and those who consistently give and receive merits, even if they aren’t merit sources. Newbies are also welcome to share their thoughts here----this is an open discussion for everyone!

If you say there is nothing wrong with both methods, then I don’t think you’re being blunt enough to call out what could I sense to have been the theme of the thread.
I say this because, merits was basically supposed to stimulate quality posting and when one merits based on profile, you don’t help the system in archiving its aim.
I wouldn’t say I haven’t been guilty of this, that would be some lie but then, some factors do cause this and that would be, having to be more focused on local boards where you feel there isn’t just enough merits in circulation due to merit source and allocations.
Even then, the merits are still based on posts but, you’ll find a certain group of users getting them merits more than others.

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Quote from: Russlenat on September 25, 2024, 04:39:28 AM

I've noticed that some accounts take different approaches when sending merits. Some might check the account profile first before sending, while others focus solely on the post and send merits based on their judgment.

I give merit for a specific post, especially if it's for the first time and I haven't interacted with this user before. But I also notice that I tend to give more merits to users I know "personally," with whom I frequently engage in discussions and generally already know what and how they write, when I am familiar with their style. That is, I don't look at the post history before awarding merit for a specific post. However, I indirectly take it into account when it comes to familiar users.

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Quote from: Vod on September 26, 2024, 12:42:55 AM

But before I give merit, I would check the account name. I don't believe in rewarding active scammers if they happen to hear something interesting and post it.

Well, you can only speak for yourself and that's obviously what you did, but I'mma tell you that People do things for way way more supererogatory reasons. That can involve prioritizing personal friendships and relationships when running on a merit spree.

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 28, 2024, 10:47:27 AM

Lately most of the merits I've given out have been to higher-ranked members, and I've always been against that--but frankly they're the only ones who write substantial/interesting/humorous posts.

I really dunno what to say precisely to this; honestly, I've known you to merit post that is duly qualified with substantial facts, predicated in reverse knowledge and advanced discoveries/observations(This isn't a type of flattery whatsoever to seek for merit, I'm tryna prove a point).

That don't mean you don't get to be a little generous with low-ranked members most of times (which you don't hesitate if you find a suitable one...) regardless of what their post history looks like, as long as that post carries semantic load.

If y'all distinguishing people strictly by what they were and how stupid they'd go about things most of the times, without considering their little efforts, how does anyone embrace change as a CULTURE which y'all portray then?

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Quote from: tbterryboy on October 15, 2024, 08:23:24 AM

Quote from: Sexylizzy2813 on October 07, 2024, 09:59:40 AM

and again is difficult to get merit these days, you have to start thinking outside the box, much is required to earn merit.

Not really, all you need to do is be yourself and be helpful, on-topic, have something unique that you can contribute in a topic, and have the ability to express your thoughts in a good manner that wouldn't give readers a hard time understanding what you are trying to say.

Technically your suggestion should be correct. However base on the current condition of merit distribution @Sexylizzy2813 is correct on his assumption since that’s what a merit sender wants to send merit.

I just want to add that earning merit in local board with a merit source is easier than earning here in global. I think your suggestion is fit on local board merit distribution criteria not in the global thread.

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Quote from: Sexylizzy2813 on October 07, 2024, 09:59:40 AM

If you talk about merit source on how they give out merit you have to know that many of them, I mean the merit source have their own ways of issuing out merit to members in the Forum, some open thread and you have the rules to follow before they give out merit, some you message for review but it ended months ago.

The reason why merit sources open or create threads and ask users to submit merit-worthy posts is that it is literally impossible for a person to find enough posts to merit, especially if you have a quota that you want/have to distribute. This makes it easier for them to find and merit posts that are good enough instead of having to visit every section and every thread for that.

Another good reason for opening such a thread as a merit source is that users will submit posts that might not be easily found because of them being posted on pages that are long gone and a source or even a normal user would barely read all the pages of a thread only to find which posts are worth giving merits.

Quote from: Sexylizzy2813 on October 07, 2024, 09:59:40 AM

and again is difficult to get merit these days, you have to start thinking outside the box, much is required to earn merit.

Not really, all you need to do is be yourself and be helpful, on-topic, have something unique that you can contribute in a topic, and have the ability to express your thoughts in a good manner that wouldn't give readers a hard time understanding what you are trying to say.

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If you talk about merit source on how they give out merit you have to know that many of them, I mean the merit source have their own ways of issuing out merit to members in the Forum, some open thread and you have the rules to follow before they give out merit, some you message for review but it ended months ago. For other members who merit the post of others in the Forum, I think some merit are base on how strong and informative the posts are while some do it base on how consistent the poster has been because is not all the time we have a post that has that quality the Forum requires and again is difficult to get merit these days, you have to start thinking outside the box, much is required to earn merit.

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Quote from: Agbe on September 30, 2024, 09:25:52 AM

I think if you find a quality post from the person, it is good to give the person a merit and from there he realised that it was because of the contribution he has made got him the merit so he would like to post qualitatively but if because you have seen low quality posts from him and you see quality post among them and because of the low quality post you didn't merit the quality, then the person thought would be the same that all his posts are low quality and that is why he has not gotten any merit. You merit might change the writings of the person mostly newbies who has not gotten enough knowledge in the forum.

It should vary from case to case. A single good posts and some merits won't change a person. I have seen this multiple times. The opposite happens as well. Let's say you found a good post from a spammer and decided to send him a merit. Unfortunately, that spammer does not have the ability to understand the difference between a good post and a spam garbage. Otherwise, they could have learn from the senior members post. If you send them a merit, they will be encouraged to spam further and start creating merit fishing threads. I know one of my local who managed to become a full member just by doing merit fishing even though he is a complete shit poster. But after getting a couple of neutral feedback for shit posting, he gave up. The goal is not to let them grow.

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on October 01, 2024, 04:50:44 PM

Quote from: mindrust on October 01, 2024, 12:29:24 PM

Some accounts though post crap occasionally but I don't ignore them as sometimes they make good posts too. When I read these posts, I give them merits. I don't hodl any grudges against these accounts even though sometimes they post absolute shit.

That's good of you, some persons when they come across of post of some users maybe the rely of the person is not reasonable enough for them to understand, they will because of 2 or 5 posts of the person and condemn all the posts of the person by putting the user on ignore list, for me is improper, someone who you think that he or post lack value another person may come across of the post and find meaning on the person's posts, sometimes I read posts twice or three times to make sure I comprehend the exact message the person is passing to us,

when you read only once you may conclude that the person is writing trash because you have not understood the passage very well, at least a good reader need to read passage twice before you come to conclusions, besides each country has different ways of spoken English language, except England in which English language is their native language any other country adopt English language as official language...merit should be given by what you understand from someone article, I can count so many that was writing shitpost during their time of newbie, but if you visit their profile currently you will see that theirs transformation in them.

I do that because time is the most important and valuable asset we have. Why should I get into a debate with someone who is not ready to change his views on any topic? Especially when his views disgusts me… It is a complete and utter waste of time. (and money too) If a dude is making 90% of his posts the same shitty way, I ain’t got no time to read the other questionably good 10% of his posts. (and that’s a very optimistic estimation btw)

And I don’t make my decision after reading only one post from that account. No, that doesn’t make any sense. It should be a long series of shitposting.

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Quote from: Russlenat on September 25, 2024, 04:39:28 AM

I've noticed that some accounts take different approaches when sending merits. Some might check the account profile first before sending, while others focus solely on the post and send merits based on their judgment.

For those newbies who are not familiar with merits, it's part of the forum system to reward good posts and encourage users to create quality content, especially those low-ranked users who want to rank up. We’ve seen a lot of low-ranked members really putting in effort to gather merits, as it’s the most important requirement for ranking up, along with high activity, since the system was introduced.

Personally, there’s nothing wrong with whichever method you prefer, but I'm curious, and I'm sure many others, especially newbies, would like to know some tips. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts, especially from merit sources and those who consistently give and receive merits, even if they aren’t merit sources. Newbies are also welcome to share their thoughts here----this is an open discussion for everyone!

I do both. Some times it is the post sometimes it is the poster.

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on October 01, 2024, 04:50:44 PM

That's good of you, some persons when they come across of post of some users maybe the rely of the person is not reasonable enough for them to understand, they will because of 2 or 5 posts of the person and condemn all the posts of the person by putting the user on ignore list, for me is improper, someone who you think that he or post lack value another person may come across of the post and find meaning on the person's posts, sometimes I read posts twice or three times to make sure I comprehend the exact message the person is passing to us,

just why am i obligated to see/read someones posts when they have been proved to be worthless by prior posts?

my ignore list is so big the forum errors when i go to the list in my profile. and its thats big for a reason.. but it takes a fair bit to get on it.

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I already posted in the thread just as many others but it the OP did not address the points or engage. He seems to be busy posting quite a lot elsewhere but not here. Is it appropriate to conclude that he seems to have forgotten to the lock the thread? When OPs leave threads is that a good sign to indicate the thread is no longer really needed?

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Quote from: mindrust on October 01, 2024, 12:29:24 PM

Some accounts though post crap occasionally but I don't ignore them as sometimes they make good posts too. When I read these posts, I give them merits. I don't hodl any grudges against these accounts even though sometimes they post absolute shit.

That's good of you, some persons when they come across of post of some users maybe the rely of the person is not reasonable enough for them to understand, they will because of 2 or 5 posts of the person and condemn all the posts of the person by putting the user on ignore list, for me is improper, someone who you think that he or post lack value another person may come across of the post and find meaning on the person's posts, sometimes I read posts twice or three times to make sure I comprehend the exact message the person is passing to us,

when you read only once you may conclude that the person is writing trash because you have not understood the passage very well, at least a good reader need to read passage twice before you come to conclusions, besides each country has different ways of spoken English language, except England in which English language is their native language any other country adopt English language as official language...merit should be given by what you understand from someone article, I can count so many that was writing shitpost during their time of newbie, but if you visit their profile currently you will see that theirs transformation in them.

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I think the history of the account affects my decision a bit. If an account constantly posts crap then it is likely he is not going to post anything that interests me in the future so I do ignore the account in question completely anyway. When I do that, I can't give any merits to his "good" posts as I won't be seeing it.

Some accounts though post crap occasionally but I don't ignore them as sometimes they make good posts too. When I read these posts, I give them merits. I don't hodl any grudges against these accounts even though sometimes they post absolute shit.

Long story short, I do ignore people if they are only posting shit. I don't do that when they sometimes post shit and yes, I give merits to their good posts.

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Quote from: Russlenat on September 25, 2024, 04:39:28 AM

I've noticed that some accounts take different approaches when sending merits. Some might check the account profile first before sending, while others focus solely on the post and send merits based on their judgment.

Merits is based on posts and not the profile behind the post. But when it's a new account a merit source could look into the profile and send more merits if needed.

Quote from: Russlenat on September 25, 2024, 04:39:28 AM

For those newbies who are not familiar with merits, it's part of the forum system to reward good posts and encourage users to create quality content, especially those low-ranked users who want to rank up. We’ve seen a lot of low-ranked members really putting in effort to gather merits, as it’s the most important requirement for ranking up, along with high activity, since the system was introduced.

These days newbies that are trying to make good posts are intimidated by bullies.

Quote from: Russlenat on September 25, 2024, 04:39:28 AM

Personally, there’s nothing wrong with whichever method you prefer, but I'm curious, and I'm sure many others, especially newbies, would like to know some tips. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts, especially from merit sources and those who consistently give and receive merits, even if they aren’t merit sources. Newbies are also welcome to share their thoughts here----this is an open discussion for everyone!

The forum is fine but the members therein have different characters and different understanding of the forum. So, no one will actually control anyone.

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