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Quote from: 24Kt on April 29, 2022, 05:10:12 PM

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Do the RTP only works in third party provider games? I see some in-house slots game do they also have RTP? I think you can only verify the bet but they don't have RTP like the common casino games we get used to, or am I wrong?

Most of the members in the forum believe that a mix of both would be good. But not sure if the gambler would have time to go through all the terms and conditions or they like to go through what they have thought about the bet.

In my experience, most are checking the reputation of the casino itself before going to this RTP factor. It is like one of the secondary features that gamblers will check out on the casino. Because even if the RTP of the casino is much better than the other but they have existing allegations, are you going to play with them? I don't think so. But setting aside the reputation factor, if you are a regular player, I believe you will prefer better RTP. With promotions, sometimes they have conditions that you need to meet before you can join. But with better RTP, everyone can benefit.

^ The important thing that we should always remember, is to check first the reputation before the promos and bonuses.
We have here a gambling casino that has a bad reputation and even their participants have a negative warning under their profile, but they offered a lot of bonuses and RTP of course. So if you will know this issue, you will never even try to gamble there because of this issue. So for me, it always matters the reputation before anything else and I even suspect the casino that gives a higher RTP is a scam casino.
Nevertheless, people who are blind did see such issues and make noise when they get scammed.

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Quote from: Theones on April 29, 2022, 02:44:02 PM

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Do the RTP only works in third party provider games? I see some in-house slots game do they also have RTP? I think you can only verify the bet but they don't have RTP like the common casino games we get used to, or am I wrong?

Most of the members in the forum believe that a mix of both would be good. But not sure if the gambler would have time to go through all the terms and conditions or they like to go through what they have thought about the bet.

In my experience, most are checking the reputation of the casino itself before going to this RTP factor. It is like one of the secondary features that gamblers will check out on the casino. Because even if the RTP of the casino is much better than the other but they have existing allegations, are you going to play with them? I don't think so. But setting aside the reputation factor, if you are a regular player, I believe you will prefer better RTP. With promotions, sometimes they have conditions that you need to meet before you can join. But with better RTP, everyone can benefit.

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Quote from: Theones on April 29, 2022, 02:44:02 PM

Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on April 28, 2022, 07:12:10 AM

Do the RTP only works in third party provider games? I see some in-house slots game do they also have RTP? I think you can only verify the bet but they don't have RTP like the common casino games we get used to, or am I wrong?

Most of the members in the forum believe that a mix of both would be good. But not sure if the gambler would have time to go through all the terms and conditions or they like to go through what they have thought about the bet.

Some are really mindful about particular things specially on where they do make theirselves involved.Some people would be minding about
RTP,Variance and other in related to slot on where they do prefer on seeing wins even though amounts are small or they do love
to see bigger wins on less chances which is actually depending on someones preference.

Not all would really be that mindful or getting serious since most of the time people would just simply place bets and wait for them
to win on every roll without minding about these factors.

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Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on April 28, 2022, 07:12:10 AM

Do the RTP only works in third party provider games? I see some in-house slots game do they also have RTP? I think you can only verify the bet but they don't have RTP like the common casino games we get used to, or am I wrong?

Most of the members in the forum believe that a mix of both would be good. But not sure if the gambler would have time to go through all the terms and conditions or they like to go through what they have thought about the bet.

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Do the RTP only works in third party provider games? I see some in-house slots game do they also have RTP? I think you can only verify the bet but they don't have RTP like the common casino games we get used to, or am I wrong?

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Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on April 26, 2022, 05:28:32 AM

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On the other hand, the number of my winnings in the promotion wasn't much but it was a result that I found pleasing. I think promotions can help gamblers get more prizes or additional balances or free spins and the rest, we don't have to expect too much to get a lot of wins. We better to play without any intention to win because that is our way to enjoy the promotion.

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Quote from: ipanks on April 26, 2022, 03:48:58 AM

I think we are both looking for promotions to get more balance, free spins, or other bonuses because that means it can give us more opportunities to win even though it doesn't guarantee us get a win. Sometimes those promotions can be free credits from casinos that have just been released and they give them away to attract more people.

Exactly. Those promotions doesn't guarantee that you would win but it doesn't mean that it is impossible for you to win, I joined a lot of competitions and promotions and I can say that I win a good amount in some of those so I think some promotions really do give wins.

Good for you but we aren't the same. Some are just bad luck or don't do good in promotions but they can do better on the standard games so they will prefer better rtp and one more thing is that promotions don't last forever and they can only come rarely but standard games are there at all times, which means you can win much better if you are lucky than compare to when you only participate on promotions.

Not only in promotions but gambling in general doesn't guarantee us a win. It is a business not a charity as what most people say so therefore expect to lose or we can say don't expect to win but only enjoy every moment when you are playing.

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Quote from: zidanw on April 27, 2022, 05:54:50 AM

I once played on a casino with more than 100 free spins and nearly one $300 however I need to wager that win and ended up losing so for me I think it is important to have promotions to attract players but also having a better RTP would be good for players that will be playing for too long and promotions for not that active players.

Sign up bonuses are really a thing in a casino or other gambling sites. These are made and given to new players to entice them to play and of course, wager so that the casino won't be on the losing end. As far as I know, most casinos don't really offer big amounts from bonus spins. I was wondering how you did it. But perhaps it's feasible if you're skilled and lucky enough.

RTP is essential to retain the players. Once a player started to play in that certain casino or site, of course, he is expecting some winning. If the house's rtp is very low, most probably the players will not be encouraged to stay and rather go out and find a new casino that will cater their needs. Because as you see, not everyone is just also after the fun, but also after the monetary prizes that come along with betting.

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I once played on a casino with more than 100 free spins and nearly one $300 however I need to wager that win and ended up losing so for me I think it is important to have promotions to attract players but also having a better RTP would be good for players that will be playing for too long and promotions for not that active players.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on April 27, 2022, 01:25:12 AM

Its all about the personal preferences, some people would like to make a bonus spins because there's a chance getting the jackpot at the highest price of the game, well its ll about the luck with that mostly of course slot games is the ideal for this kind of game. For the RTP its ideal for the large amount of wager such as in the event of the leaderboard highest wage of all time for a day, week or monthly base they gained profit by doing this kind of activity of course to the people who does not play large wages. I prefer with the Bonus spins.

Bonus spins sounds always nice, but I never heard from anybody who wins a lot of money from these bonus spins. For years I am eagerly jumping on any new promotion that gives away bonus spins. They are fun to use, but my profits are usually just 0.1-0.3$. It makes sense for casino to only give away small amounts during such big promotions. Just wondering if there is someone who manages to score big with them. On paper playing at a casino with many promotions looks very nice, there is always free stuff to collect and keeps us gamblers engaged. That is probably also why I prefer to see new promotion campaigns rather than just plain games with good RTP. But for our profits it is probably better to play on casinos with high RTP games. Getting higher wins on average will likely offset the money we could have gotten from free promotions.

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I would choose bigger bonuses with lower wagering requirements. Sometimes wagering requirements are very exhaustive, and they are not even worth mentioning. But some bonuses are great. As for RTP, it doesn't matter to me at all.

Worst case scenario what if you have a load of bonuses but with a bad RTP that makes you lose everything, if you have a high RTP there is no way the bonuses will be worth it after all you will play them all away since the casino already set a high RTP that make it impossible for the player to win. So I prefer better RTP to loads of bonuses.

It doesn't make sense, you can withdraw promo money from higher A casino and keep doubling "easy money" on higher RTP alternative B casino. Tbh, balanced features make it easy for average users since expert gamblers know how to handle such situations🙂 Expert gamblers understand odds of hitting max win on slots and they will never chase one in billion chance of hitting max win unlike newbie users. The promotions can improve the odds of hitting huge multipliers on alternative platforms if user knows what he is doing.

Its all about the personal preferences, some people would like to make a bonus spins because there's a chance getting the jackpot at the highest price of the game, well its ll about the luck with that mostly of course slot games is the ideal for this kind of game. For the RTP its ideal for the large amount of wager such as in the event of the leaderboard highest wage of all time for a day, week or monthly base they gained profit by doing this kind of activity of course to the people who does not play large wages. I prefer with the Bonus spins.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on April 25, 2022, 09:28:47 AM

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It's typical because they're a business. They take and give back to their customers through those free spins and other promos that they could give. But they're not going to give all of those or bigger amounts because they know that they could be bombarded by customers just because of those promos. Well, if many gamblers misuse their free spins, it's not a problem to them and it's no longer a thing to them. It's about that they just want to give it away and let it be used by them.

It is just an additional attraction and it is become effective in a way that there is an increase in users. And behind those promotions and free spins, there is a huge benefit that goes back to them. Gambling is a business, certain strategies have been created just for the sake of making money, not by spending it without an expected return as it was not.

They'll come out with this promotional strategy and besides, new sites adopt this thing for they know that popularity is very important and this seems a way to help.

Those type of promos really are helping them to become popular. Gamblers are hooked into those marketing promotions that casinos are doing. At first if it's all about the promotions, then there's also the case that players will be the ones that will receive back the effect of it.
Entirely, it's for the casino and if it's needed to be done to keep the casino breathing, they'll do everything whatever it takes.

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Quote from: ipanks on April 26, 2022, 03:48:58 AM

I think we are both looking for promotions to get more balance, free spins, or other bonuses because that means it can give us more opportunities to win even though it doesn't guarantee us get a win. Sometimes those promotions can be free credits from casinos that have just been released and they give them away to attract more people.

Exactly. Those promotions doesn't guarantee that you would win but it doesn't mean that it is impossible for you to win, I joined a lot of competitions and promotions and I can say that I win a good amount in some of those so I think some promotions really do give wins.

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Quote from: Desmong on April 25, 2022, 04:03:53 AM

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Yes, of course. That is the strategy of every casino and they are used to using it to get more gamblers to gamble at their place. It is a challenge for gamblers to say no at this time to reduce their time in gambling. But if they are used to gambling, they will always deposit money for fun.

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I think we are both looking for promotions to get more balance, free spins, or other bonuses because that means it can give us more opportunities to win even though it doesn't guarantee us get a win. Sometimes those promotions can be free credits from casinos that have just been released and they give them away to attract more people.

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I think that high RTP decreases the quantity and quality of the promotions. The casino gets less money to spend it for promotion. Of course if this is an honest casino with truthful information. And what to choose everyone decide by himself. As for me - the promotions can be more useful to the ordinary gambler - the chances to win decreases, but it is possible that promotions will bring him more money. I`m choosing promotions.

Well, I'm in both of them. There's the beneficial part for the gamblers if there are more promotions and as well as RTP. But balancing it depends on the casino where you're playing and what they're looking at.
If they have become aggressive in their marketing and promotions then you have to understand what they're up to. As long as the gambling experience never changes, there's no need to jump elsewhere.

^ Probably a low-budget casino will for sure consider first the promotions especially for those gambling casinos that have been recently started or those did not yet have decent users. After they will benefit from their promotions it could be the RTP will follow and most usually we see it here, promotions first, and then when it is effective they will have a high RTP to maintain their user stay on the site.
However, there are gambling casino that most generous giving promotions and RTP, probably because this also have a high return to them when the more users have the more profit will come.

Consequently, do you think there should be a balance between RTP and promotions? because I know that the impact of a high RTP is undoubtedly a loss of promotion quality, but the casino would be taking more stability, and in part the casino must do everything possible so that it does not fall in profits or in maintenance, but a casino lives off its customers, which makes it a faithful servant for them, so that every customer feels that they are better than at home.

For me the promotions are important, the RTP should be in balance with it, I have not thought that if the balance tilts to one side who would benefit?

Even though RTP is one of the most find by the different gambler with also higher offer i guess still in the gambling platform it might be a lose to their side unless there's a largest wager event and only people who are in the top 10 approximately are the one who have the opportunity, but i saw different platform offering with higher RTP i guess this is part of their marketing strategy which is good too its all about the decision of the gambling platform at the end of the day its their reputation and earnings too.

You know that you hit a key point, and normally I think that is where everything is generated, the business model that there is always in the casino platforms is very large, each casino and each person who manages it has a great administration under which they want to achieve the best possible, if everything is based on a good promotion in a great RTP that attracts players, it is not a bad move, on the contrary, it is the best of the strategies that can be done, many of us when we see that you can win quickly somehow we start to try our luck, we always keep positivity at very high levels, and since we know that the house will also always have the advantage, sometimes we don't remember those things, so maybe with only the promotion it will be the best strategy to enter many players.

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marketing gambling sites to attract people to gamble there. Marketing is becoming an important factor to make progress in gambling. by increasing their site traffic and sacrificing RTP, I think this is going to cost a lot of money.

Most likely what they want from increasing their site's traffic is to recruit gamblers to choose to play there. However, they would also be careful, would not let any harm befall them. I don't think they're wasting money and sacrificing RTP. but there is another big goal for the advancement of their site. and if we look at the scenario, marketing and RTP will go hand in hand and not harm them.

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Quote from: Desmong on April 25, 2022, 04:03:53 AM

Quote from: ipanks on April 22, 2022, 06:51:47 AM

Although serious gambler is not too concerned about promotions and rewards, sometimes they also want to feel the promotion and bonus because every time they deposit the money, the number can be more than other gamblers. Therefore, if they can get the bonus, the amount of their balance can be more, which means they can have longer fun. Playing gambling games with high RTP will not necessarily give us a long-term advantage. Even maybe we can experience many losses, depending on the amount of money we have.

Many times bonuses and reward always attract more gamblers to a gambling platform and it increases the urge to gamble more since you can always get additional funds from invites and frequent gambling. This will keep the gambling platform flooded with more gamblers since their is something attached when you play, having fun.

even though it is indeed quite naive but it is true, sometimes even entering into a gambling see it first but of course not everything is like that especially if they really want to be careful in looking at the gambling sites they visit.
It doesn't really matter whether it's a gift or a big bonus, but if the site has problems, of course we don't want to be there either

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I think RTP is very important over promotions because the later one could fill up your wallet with free spins or some deposits but it won’t let you win handsome amount so as to break even with the same. In addition to this, if you look from casinos point of view then it won’t be beneficial for them to keep releasing lot of promotions. Many times user could just misuse free spins to win a lot and leave the casino. For casino to keep us entertained they need optimum RTP to keep both of us happy.

It's typical because they're a business. They take and give back to their customers through those free spins and other promos that they could give. But they're not going to give all of those or bigger amounts because they know that they could be bombarded by customers just because of those promos. Well, if many gamblers misuse their free spins, it's not a problem to them and it's no longer a thing to them. It's about that they just want to give it away and let it be used by them.

It is just an additional attraction and it is become effective in a way that there is an increase in users. And behind those promotions and free spins, there is a huge benefit that goes back to them. Gambling is a business, certain strategies have been created just for the sake of making money, not by spending it without an expected return as it was not.

They'll come out with this promotional strategy and besides, new sites adopt this thing for they know that popularity is very important and this seems a way to help.

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Quote from: ipanks on April 25, 2022, 03:36:35 AM

Quote from: Flexystar on April 24, 2022, 11:58:03 PM

I think RTP is very important over promotions because the later one could fill up your wallet with free spins or some deposits but it won’t let you win handsome amount so as to break even with the same. In addition to this, if you look from casinos point of view then it won’t be beneficial for them to keep releasing lot of promotions. Many times user could just misuse free spins to win a lot and leave the casino. For casino to keep us entertained they need optimum RTP to keep both of us happy.

For some gamblers, RTP may be very important than promotions. Still, promotions can be important for others because by getting or participating in ongoing promotions, they can get bonuses or something free. So between RTP and promotion is a relative thing for gamblers.

But from the casino's point of view, if they provide a lot of various promotions, they can attract people to gamble at their place. If anyone tries to abuse promotions or get free spins by cheating, the casino will know for sure.

That is why there is a need to ask for one when both can be conducted by the company? there are company that open this and also there are many players that is looking for that.

Of course personally I am for Promotions because this is also what I was looking for the gambling site I am going to enter, since i can try the site while not spending any to risk .

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Quote from: Desmong on April 25, 2022, 04:03:53 AM

Quote from: ipanks on April 22, 2022, 06:51:47 AM

Although serious gambler is not too concerned about promotions and rewards, sometimes they also want to feel the promotion and bonus because every time they deposit the money, the number can be more than other gamblers. Therefore, if they can get the bonus, the amount of their balance can be more, which means they can have longer fun. Playing gambling games with high RTP will not necessarily give us a long-term advantage. Even maybe we can experience many losses, depending on the amount of money we have.

Many times bonuses and reward always attract more gamblers to a gambling platform and it increases the urge to gamble more since you can always get additional funds from invites and frequent gambling. This will keep the gambling platform flooded with more gamblers since their is something attached when you play, having fun.

A part from this - my question is what do people notice when they are playing in black jack in an online gambling or in real casino?
Do they see rule or what? the favors which are going to benefit them or they ask other questions? Just because I am curious to know!

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