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Re: Do you prefer lots of promotions over better RTP?
April 14, 2022, 05:18:31 PM
#143
Quote from: RILWAN on April 14, 2022, 04:39:30 PM
I don't believe in gambling that takes a huge amount of their hot wallet just to sponsor a promotional project unless the team is planning on developing its native token and even at that the team needs to have available funds to keep the players serviced at all time. I will rather play in a casino that offers the players various promotion and not taking huge amount to pay promotional materials that are outside the casino.
With the passage of time - as I am getting old - I find ads and advisement very annoying.
The ads and bonuses are more attractive to newbie and beginners and not the serious and senior players. So I think it depends on the target audience.
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Re: Do you prefer lots of promotions over better RTP?
April 14, 2022, 04:39:30 PM
#142
I don't believe in gambling that takes a huge amount of their hot wallet just to sponsor a promotional project unless the team is planning on developing its native token and even at that the team needs to have available funds to keep the players serviced at all time. I will rather play in a casino that offers the players various promotion and not taking huge amount to pay promotional materials that are outside the casino.
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Re: Do you prefer lots of promotions over better RTP?
April 14, 2022, 04:33:55 PM
#141
Quote from: maydna on April 14, 2022, 10:47:12 AM
Quote from: Lanatsa on April 13, 2022, 05:48:16 PM
As a gambler then i do really have  this kind of behavior on which i do really search off on new gambling sites which i do hope that it would be having much better compared on the current/recent site that ive been playing

with and if i do see that it isnt really that much interesting or doesnt find something revolutionary then i would just simply switch back and continue to stay on where i do prefer to play and this is where
most people do really act out.We do stay on place which we do seem that give us some good experience and being comfortable despite of the high chance or risk of losing money.
It will be okay if you are looking for a new gambling site to compare their services, and I think it is also necessary to do so that we can get a gambling site that can make us comfortable while playing gambling. And usually, every gambling site will always provide good promotions every day or week, which can attract more gamblers to come to their site. I can only give advice not to spend too much money if it is to test the new site because we don't know how they will go through the process. We really need to know if their site is safe and can be our next gamble.
I agree in to that point or comment that people would really be testing out gambling sites specially new ones because we are really that curious on what offers that they would really be giving which might
or might not be better on the current site you are playing on and if you do find out that it do offer something better then its understandable that people would be finding something like new.
If we do find out to be interesting then we would really be transferring but if not then we would stay as simple as that.
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Re: Do you prefer lots of promotions over better RTP?
April 14, 2022, 04:21:27 PM
#140
Quote from: DoublerHunter on April 13, 2022, 07:38:07 PM
Quote from: tabas on April 13, 2022, 07:23:24 PM
Quote from: mak013 on April 13, 2022, 07:04:58 AM
I think that high RTP decreases the quantity and quality of the promotions. The casino gets less money to spend it for promotion. Of course if this is an honest casino with truthful information. And what to choose everyone decide by himself. As for me - the promotions can be more useful to the ordinary gambler - the chances to win decreases, but it is possible that promotions will bring him more money. I`m choosing promotions.
Well, I'm in both of them. There's the beneficial part for the gamblers if there are more promotions and as well as RTP. But balancing it depends on the casino where you're playing and what they're looking at.
If they have become aggressive in their marketing and promotions then you have to understand what they're up to. As long as the gambling experience never changes, there's no need to jump elsewhere.
^ Probably a low-budget casino will for sure consider first the promotions especially for those gambling casinos that have been recently started or those did not yet have decent users. After they will benefit from their promotions it could be the RTP will follow and most usually we see it here, promotions first, and then when it is effective they will have a high RTP to maintain their user stay on the site.
However, there are gambling casino that most generous giving promotions and RTP, probably because this also have a high return to them when the more users have the more profit will come.
This is possible situation that some casinos increases the RTP after they attract gamblers attention, but mostly they don`t need to change anything i think. They have gamblers, who got promotion and don`t want to change casino for 1-2% of RTP. And the situation with high promotions and RTP the same time is possible for large casinos or new casinos with big money that the owners ready to spent in marketing. These casinos may get nice profit, but the first time they need money to start.
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Re: Do you prefer lots of promotions over better RTP?
April 14, 2022, 10:47:12 AM
#139
Quote from: Lanatsa on April 13, 2022, 05:48:16 PM
As a gambler then i do really have  this kind of behavior on which i do really search off on new gambling sites which i do hope that it would be having much better compared on the current/recent site that ive been playing

with and if i do see that it isnt really that much interesting or doesnt find something revolutionary then i would just simply switch back and continue to stay on where i do prefer to play and this is where
most people do really act out.We do stay on place which we do seem that give us some good experience and being comfortable despite of the high chance or risk of losing money.
It will be okay if you are looking for a new gambling site to compare their services, and I think it is also necessary to do so that we can get a gambling site that can make us comfortable while playing gambling. And usually, every gambling site will always provide good promotions every day or week, which can attract more gamblers to come to their site. I can only give advice not to spend too much money if it is to test the new site because we don't know how they will go through the process. We really need to know if their site is safe and can be our next gamble.
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Re: Do you prefer lots of promotions over better RTP?
April 14, 2022, 05:55:38 AM
#138
Quote from: Kakmakr on March 27, 2022, 12:58:46 PM
One of the casinos where I gamble have gone totally overboard with their marketing campaigns. They are spending millions of dollars on marketing and to fund this, they introduced several projects to increase traffic to their site. Now, I am not going to say which site it is.... but I guess a lot of people play there.  Roll Eyes

The site is great ....but the gambling experience has deteriorated... because the RTP has been nerf'ed to hell and gone to pay for these projects.

Now my question is this... do you prefer that a casino offer loads of promotions and campaigns and sponsorships and sacrifice RTP in favor of that.... or will you rather have a decent gambling experience with a better RTP?

Let's discuss...  Wink

I think both are needed. Even those perfect casinos are going heavy on promotions and marketing campaigns. If you have a good product but nobody knows about its existence, what good is it? Good products may sell itself but promotions and marketing campaigns multiply those sells by 10 or 100. Marketing&Promotions usually are the most important thing when you are selling a service/product. Almost as important as the product itself. Sometimes even more important.
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Re: Do you prefer lots of promotions over better RTP?
April 14, 2022, 05:37:23 AM
#137
If we talk about the majority of people we know that people care more about the promotions and money they can get for free than actual RTP even many people know there is such term exists in the casino which decides their favour of winning a bet. I prefer the better gambling experience overall and don't give much importance to the promotions at anyday but the fact is not many people has the same mindset as myself.
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Re: Do you prefer lots of promotions over better RTP?
April 14, 2022, 05:11:26 AM
#136
Quote from: DoublerHunter on April 13, 2022, 07:38:07 PM
Quote from: tabas on April 13, 2022, 07:23:24 PM
Well, I'm in both of them. There's the beneficial part for the gamblers if there are more promotions and as well as RTP. But balancing it depends on the casino where you're playing and what they're looking at.
If they have become aggressive in their marketing and promotions then you have to understand what they're up to. As long as the gambling experience never changes, there's no need to jump elsewhere.
^ Probably a low-budget casino will for sure consider first the promotions especially for those gambling casinos that have been recently started or those did not yet have decent users. After they will benefit from their promotions it could be the RTP will follow and most usually we see it here, promotions first, and then when it is effective they will have a high RTP to maintain their user stay on the site.
However, there are gambling casino that most generous giving promotions and RTP, probably because this also have a high return to them when the more users have the more profit will come.
Yes, that's for sure because they have to be known first before they focused on the RTP. When they've got that much customers and maybe have seen the loyal ones.
They're now going to get into a higher RTP so that those loyal customers to them will stay. But as starting, it's true that they need to get a lot of attention through promotions.
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Re: Do you prefer lots of promotions over better RTP?
April 13, 2022, 07:38:07 PM
#135
Quote from: tabas on April 13, 2022, 07:23:24 PM
Quote from: mak013 on April 13, 2022, 07:04:58 AM
I think that high RTP decreases the quantity and quality of the promotions. The casino gets less money to spend it for promotion. Of course if this is an honest casino with truthful information. And what to choose everyone decide by himself. As for me - the promotions can be more useful to the ordinary gambler - the chances to win decreases, but it is possible that promotions will bring him more money. I`m choosing promotions.
Well, I'm in both of them. There's the beneficial part for the gamblers if there are more promotions and as well as RTP. But balancing it depends on the casino where you're playing and what they're looking at.
If they have become aggressive in their marketing and promotions then you have to understand what they're up to. As long as the gambling experience never changes, there's no need to jump elsewhere.
^ Probably a low-budget casino will for sure consider first the promotions especially for those gambling casinos that have been recently started or those did not yet have decent users. After they will benefit from their promotions it could be the RTP will follow and most usually we see it here, promotions first, and then when it is effective they will have a high RTP to maintain their user stay on the site.
However, there are gambling casino that most generous giving promotions and RTP, probably because this also have a high return to them when the more users have the more profit will come.
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Re: Do you prefer lots of promotions over better RTP?
April 13, 2022, 07:23:24 PM
#134
Quote from: mak013 on April 13, 2022, 07:04:58 AM
I think that high RTP decreases the quantity and quality of the promotions. The casino gets less money to spend it for promotion. Of course if this is an honest casino with truthful information. And what to choose everyone decide by himself. As for me - the promotions can be more useful to the ordinary gambler - the chances to win decreases, but it is possible that promotions will bring him more money. I`m choosing promotions.
Well, I'm in both of them. There's the beneficial part for the gamblers if there are more promotions and as well as RTP. But balancing it depends on the casino where you're playing and what they're looking at.
If they have become aggressive in their marketing and promotions then you have to understand what they're up to. As long as the gambling experience never changes, there's no need to jump elsewhere.
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Re: Do you prefer lots of promotions over better RTP?
April 13, 2022, 05:48:16 PM
#133
Quote from: maydna on April 13, 2022, 11:05:30 AM
Quote from: arwin100 on April 13, 2022, 08:17:23 AM
Quote from: maydna on April 13, 2022, 07:17:09 AM
Quote from: ralle14 on April 13, 2022, 05:43:13 AM
Quote from: maydna on April 12, 2022, 12:22:59 PM
The promotions they do will also certainly be able to attract more people who will play on their site. It is hoped that with the right promotion, the profits of a site can increase.
Not only does it attract more people but it also encourages their existing players to continue playing. Even if it's only a classic wagering competition there's still a significant increase in wagering activity.
You are right. Therefore, these gambling sites continue to focus on promotions to attract more people, especially if they can provide promotions that attract people and big players. If they can get a lot of big players, that means the gambling site's profits can also be more than before. And providing lots of gambling games will make gambling players feel more comfortable playing on their site.

Because this is what people expect to see on casinos since many believe thay having a good promotion can make people stay on their platform or rather  make people stay on what they offer to their gamblers. But as @dothebeats say better RTP is more good to have since this will make the gambler stay since casino will became boring once those promotional stuff ends and for sure if gambler will not see anything like this exist they flee and go to other platform who offers again some nice promotions to them.
With RTP, casinos can allow gamblers to try their luck, but I'm not sure if the promotion from the casino will end because promotion is a tool to develop the casino to be bigger. As long as the casino can provide the best service for its customers, users will not switch to another casino but will use the platform to continue playing gambling. Although users may try other gambling sites, in the end, those users will return to the original casino because he has found comfort in that casino.
As a gambler then i do really have  this kind of behavior on which i do really search off on new gambling sites which i do hope that it would be having much better compared on the current/recent site that ive been playing

with and if i do see that it isnt really that much interesting or doesnt find something revolutionary then i would just simply switch back and continue to stay on where i do prefer to play and this is where
most people do really act out.We do stay on place which we do seem that give us some good experience and being comfortable despite of the high chance or risk of losing money.
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Re: Do you prefer lots of promotions over better RTP?
April 13, 2022, 12:19:47 PM
#132
I honestly prefer lots of promos over rtp lol
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Re: Do you prefer lots of promotions over better RTP?
April 13, 2022, 11:05:30 AM
#131
Quote from: arwin100 on April 13, 2022, 08:17:23 AM
Quote from: maydna on April 13, 2022, 07:17:09 AM
Quote from: ralle14 on April 13, 2022, 05:43:13 AM
Quote from: maydna on April 12, 2022, 12:22:59 PM
The promotions they do will also certainly be able to attract more people who will play on their site. It is hoped that with the right promotion, the profits of a site can increase.
Not only does it attract more people but it also encourages their existing players to continue playing. Even if it's only a classic wagering competition there's still a significant increase in wagering activity.
You are right. Therefore, these gambling sites continue to focus on promotions to attract more people, especially if they can provide promotions that attract people and big players. If they can get a lot of big players, that means the gambling site's profits can also be more than before. And providing lots of gambling games will make gambling players feel more comfortable playing on their site.

Because this is what people expect to see on casinos since many believe thay having a good promotion can make people stay on their platform or rather  make people stay on what they offer to their gamblers. But as @dothebeats say better RTP is more good to have since this will make the gambler stay since casino will became boring once those promotional stuff ends and for sure if gambler will not see anything like this exist they flee and go to other platform who offers again some nice promotions to them.
With RTP, casinos can allow gamblers to try their luck, but I'm not sure if the promotion from the casino will end because promotion is a tool to develop the casino to be bigger. As long as the casino can provide the best service for its customers, users will not switch to another casino but will use the platform to continue playing gambling. Although users may try other gambling sites, in the end, those users will return to the original casino because he has found comfort in that casino.
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Re: Do you prefer lots of promotions over better RTP?
April 13, 2022, 09:27:11 AM
#130
Quote from: Kakmakr on April 13, 2022, 08:29:20 AM
Quote from: dothebeats on April 13, 2022, 08:09:05 AM
Quote from: Kakmakr on April 12, 2022, 01:21:12 PM
Well, for me the point (essence) of promotions is for the casino to promote themselves to get more "new" gamblers to join the casino. Some of the promotions are there to get existing gamblers to gamble more. (Races/Championships/Tournaments/Challenges)

So, if the RTP is too high to pay for all of this, you will get new people to gamble and your existing gamblers will eventually get frustrated and they will leave. It turns into a cycle that will eventually "kill" the casino... because you will not keep the doors open, if "new blood" does not join the casino and the old gamblers leaving.  Roll Eyes

Right. There needs to be an equal stress on the importance of promotion and RTP. But ultimately, RTP is what carries a platform's profits in the long run. If not for RTP, casino player base might see a steep drop as time progresses. Newbies are only there for the bonuses. Once that runs out, they also hop in to another casino for the bonuses. If you can give them an incentive to stay and play for long, they'll do that on themselves and they would need not the insistence of the platform.

Well, the newbies just boost their game play time with the bonuses, but they are not the gamblers that are bringing in the real money. The profit for the casinos come with the highrollers and that is why most promotions and challenges are geared towards giving back to highrollers to keep them gambling.

The thing is... even the highrollers wants value for their money ....so a favorable RTP will also benefit them. A lot of the casinos are just greedy and they forget the basics, because they are too focused on aggressive marketing.  Roll Eyes

Because right now some people ask about more promotion than having this RTP and maybe those casinos are just following how their market dictate since if you notice once they launch their new business here the one following ask by some people is if there's promotion will run on their launch and other things which related on that matter. RTP will just set aside and newbie doesn't even recognize its importance maybe they are low baller and doesn't care about that but whales for sure enjoy to have this since this will give them better benefits upon playing.
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Re: Do you prefer lots of promotions over better RTP?
April 13, 2022, 08:29:20 AM
#129
Quote from: dothebeats on April 13, 2022, 08:09:05 AM
Quote from: Kakmakr on April 12, 2022, 01:21:12 PM
Well, for me the point (essence) of promotions is for the casino to promote themselves to get more "new" gamblers to join the casino. Some of the promotions are there to get existing gamblers to gamble more. (Races/Championships/Tournaments/Challenges)

So, if the RTP is too high to pay for all of this, you will get new people to gamble and your existing gamblers will eventually get frustrated and they will leave. It turns into a cycle that will eventually "kill" the casino... because you will not keep the doors open, if "new blood" does not join the casino and the old gamblers leaving.  Roll Eyes

Right. There needs to be an equal stress on the importance of promotion and RTP. But ultimately, RTP is what carries a platform's profits in the long run. If not for RTP, casino player base might see a steep drop as time progresses. Newbies are only there for the bonuses. Once that runs out, they also hop in to another casino for the bonuses. If you can give them an incentive to stay and play for long, they'll do that on themselves and they would need not the insistence of the platform.

Well, the newbies just boost their game play time with the bonuses, but they are not the gamblers that are bringing in the real money. The profit for the casinos come with the highrollers and that is why most promotions and challenges are geared towards giving back to highrollers to keep them gambling.

The thing is... even the highrollers wants value for their money ....so a favorable RTP will also benefit them. A lot of the casinos are just greedy and they forget the basics, because they are too focused on aggressive marketing.  Roll Eyes
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Re: Do you prefer lots of promotions over better RTP?
April 13, 2022, 08:25:38 AM
#128
Quote from: dothebeats on April 13, 2022, 08:09:05 AM
Quote from: Kakmakr on April 12, 2022, 01:21:12 PM
Well, for me the point (essence) of promotions is for the casino to promote themselves to get more "new" gamblers to join the casino. Some of the promotions are there to get existing gamblers to gamble more. (Races/Championships/Tournaments/Challenges)

So, if the RTP is too high to pay for all of this, you will get new people to gamble and your existing gamblers will eventually get frustrated and they will leave. It turns into a cycle that will eventually "kill" the casino... because you will not keep the doors open, if "new blood" does not join the casino and the old gamblers leaving.  Roll Eyes

Right. There needs to be an equal stress on the importance of promotion and RTP. But ultimately, RTP is what carries a platform's profits in the long run. If not for RTP, casino player base might see a steep drop as time progresses. Newbies are only there for the bonuses. Once that runs out, they also hop in to another casino for the bonuses. If you can give them an incentive to stay and play for long, they'll do that on themselves and they would need not the insistence of the platform.

It is a good marketing strategy for the new website which makes it more attractive to the new gamblers to their platform so they can enjoy the RTP and other uses with the use of the bonuses which is ideal to use too those are both a marketing strategy that will gain profit but again it's all about the risk of the player to deal with it. Base in my experience I win mostly with the free spins bonuses than having with the RTP because its uses a large amount to become part of the leaderboard to gain the RTP.
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Re: Do you prefer lots of promotions over better RTP?
April 13, 2022, 08:17:23 AM
#127
Quote from: maydna on April 13, 2022, 07:17:09 AM
Quote from: ralle14 on April 13, 2022, 05:43:13 AM
Quote from: maydna on April 12, 2022, 12:22:59 PM
The promotions they do will also certainly be able to attract more people who will play on their site. It is hoped that with the right promotion, the profits of a site can increase.
Not only does it attract more people but it also encourages their existing players to continue playing. Even if it's only a classic wagering competition there's still a significant increase in wagering activity.
You are right. Therefore, these gambling sites continue to focus on promotions to attract more people, especially if they can provide promotions that attract people and big players. If they can get a lot of big players, that means the gambling site's profits can also be more than before. And providing lots of gambling games will make gambling players feel more comfortable playing on their site.

Because this is what people expect to see on casinos since many believe thay having a good promotion can make people stay on their platform or rather  make people stay on what they offer to their gamblers. But as @dothebeats say better RTP is more good to have since this will make the gambler stay since casino will became boring once those promotional stuff ends and for sure if gambler will not see anything like this exist they flee and go to other platform who offers again some nice promotions to them.
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Re: Do you prefer lots of promotions over better RTP?
April 13, 2022, 08:09:05 AM
#126
Quote from: Kakmakr on April 12, 2022, 01:21:12 PM
Well, for me the point (essence) of promotions is for the casino to promote themselves to get more "new" gamblers to join the casino. Some of the promotions are there to get existing gamblers to gamble more. (Races/Championships/Tournaments/Challenges)

So, if the RTP is too high to pay for all of this, you will get new people to gamble and your existing gamblers will eventually get frustrated and they will leave. It turns into a cycle that will eventually "kill" the casino... because you will not keep the doors open, if "new blood" does not join the casino and the old gamblers leaving.  Roll Eyes

Right. There needs to be an equal stress on the importance of promotion and RTP. But ultimately, RTP is what carries a platform's profits in the long run. If not for RTP, casino player base might see a steep drop as time progresses. Newbies are only there for the bonuses. Once that runs out, they also hop in to another casino for the bonuses. If you can give them an incentive to stay and play for long, they'll do that on themselves and they would need not the insistence of the platform.
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Re: Do you prefer lots of promotions over better RTP?
April 13, 2022, 07:17:09 AM
#125
Quote from: ralle14 on April 13, 2022, 05:43:13 AM
Quote from: maydna on April 12, 2022, 12:22:59 PM
The promotions they do will also certainly be able to attract more people who will play on their site. It is hoped that with the right promotion, the profits of a site can increase.
Not only does it attract more people but it also encourages their existing players to continue playing. Even if it's only a classic wagering competition there's still a significant increase in wagering activity.
You are right. Therefore, these gambling sites continue to focus on promotions to attract more people, especially if they can provide promotions that attract people and big players. If they can get a lot of big players, that means the gambling site's profits can also be more than before. And providing lots of gambling games will make gambling players feel more comfortable playing on their site.
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Re: Do you prefer lots of promotions over better RTP?
April 13, 2022, 07:04:58 AM
#124
I think that high RTP decreases the quantity and quality of the promotions. The casino gets less money to spend it for promotion. Of course if this is an honest casino with truthful information. And what to choose everyone decide by himself. As for me - the promotions can be more useful to the ordinary gambler - the chances to win decreases, but it is possible that promotions will bring him more money. I`m choosing promotions.
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