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Topic: Do you still bother to engage non Bitcoiners? - page 2. (Read 13322 times)

legendary
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One should not try to convince anyone of anything, especially when it comes to investment. If a person follows your advice and loses money, he will blame you in it. Cryptocurrencies are high-risk investments and here everyone decides for himself whether to buy Bitcoin and wait for the bull market or not to be interested in the cryptocurrency industry at all.

That doesn't mean we should stand idly by when someone talks shit about the thing you do and are interested in.
I sometimes engage these people. I don't try to convince them to invest but persuade them that Bitcoin is not a scam and it's not some crazy idea that won't ever work because it works. I always argue with brainwashed mainstream media followers who repeat dumb headlines. Bitcoin is used by terrorists, bitcoin is used for child porn, bitcoin is a black market drug money these are one of the most common ones.
hero member
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I like letting them know that it is the next step in the evolution of money and I have to admit that I do it for selfish reasons as well because I hope to one then tell them "I told you so... Atleast to those that refused to be convinced.
There is no point in convincing anyone about the market, all you can do is to introduce them about the bitcoin market and then the decision to invest in it must be their sole discretion, when i first heard about bitcoin even i was not convinced about a decentralized market but when the price rallied a few times and then i understood the potential of entering at an early stage.
hero member
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Yes I still do, sometimes even people who are already using bitcoin gets into the argument about whether it would stand the test of time and I also engage in the argument, I love convincing people about Bitcoin, I like letting them know that it is the next step in the evolution of money and I have to admit that I do it for selfish reasons as well because I hope to one then tell them "I told you so... Atleast to those that refused to be convinced.
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Even now people are with the fear of using bitcoin, and this is due to the negative things that's been shared about cryptocurrency. Among the common people very few try to analyze and take decisions, while majority go with the next one's decision. I try to convince people describing the truth of circulating negative news. Further its their wish to continue or stop using it.
sr. member
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I was perusing another forum today with a long running cryptcurrency thread. To my non amazement they're still debating the nature of the whole thing in the exact same way they were 2-3-4-5 years ago. The same people are waiting to be convinced. The same people are trying to convince them.

This strikes me as a complete and utter waste of calories. I'd rather let people believe what they want. Me convincing them won't help anyone. They're not going to convince me of anything. My attitude is - crypto is here. You may as well sit back and see what happens as nothing I do, say or listen to will change it.

Are you still embroiled in debates with friends and internet creeps or have you let it slide?
I dont actually convince anyone to know bitcoin because it is somehow technical so its hard to explain the features and other good thing with regards to cryptcurrency. It is somehow good when you actually convince one person maybe he will understand and try to invest and that will really help the community. More investors more possibility that crypto pumps and thats what I think.
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For me, sometimes I embroiled when trying to convince a friend because a friend also helps/introduces me what bitcoin is, what are the benefits and advantages that you can have, and more. But when I come to other ppl that non bitcoiner I just explain my part why I believe in bitcoin and if they don't  want to believe to the things that I have said/ done I don't force them to believe I will not convince them, we all know what is the reason why we believe in bitcoin so if their perspective of bitcoin and other cryptocurrency is a scam or negative thoughts so be it it's their lives. Smiley
sr. member
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I remember the story of my two officemates who questions me long time ago about how bitcoin works and how bitcoin is not a scam. One of them believes in me and the other has a close minded opinion. Now, that co worker who beleives earns big already and the other one has a difficulty in earning because of greediness and stress of being behind.

Based on my experience, the more we convince them, the more they hate us, at the same time, reject our proposals. That is the way how human mind works often. So in order for me to win an argument, I give them results, that can make them believe what the truth is. In terms of arguing to some people about bitcoin being scam or not, I better show them how to cash out fiats from btc, but with them having a hope that I will tell them information if they are ready to accept it. If still not, then I'll stop the conversation.
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I remember the story of my two officemates who questions me long time ago about how bitcoin works and how bitcoin is not a scam. One of them believes in me and the other has a close minded opinion. Now, that co worker who beleives earns big already and the other one has a difficulty in earning because of greediness and stress of being behind.
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I was a serious preacher of Bitcoin to the commoners or the newbies but, was almost slapped by one of my closed friend who once invested on a Ponzi Scheme that pretend to be a Bitcoin legitimate investment platform. Although, his argument was based on the facts with him, later in two moths after the hot argument, i told him where to invest and he made his profits. Sometimes we should be patient with them and guild them because, they are still nobs even though they look matured.
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Like what I always say on the diferent discussions here couple of times already, I stopped persuading people to try crypto (bitcoin to be specific). I'm already tired of of being rejected and hear different misconceptions like bitcoin is a scam, their safety is at risk once they used it blah blah. I said to myself that I will now stop presenting my knowledge about cypto, I'll just let my profits speak for me. I know it sounds too selfish but what should I do? Itv seems they're not interested at all.

The reason that I see why all of them refuse to invest is the risk. I realized that people want to get outputs in a sudden but don't want to give inputs at all Roll Eyes.
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I was perusing another forum today with a long running cryptcurrency thread. To my non amazement they're still debating the nature of the whole thing in the exact same way they were 2-3-4-5 years ago. The same people are waiting to be convinced. The same people are trying to convince them.

This strikes me as a complete and utter waste of calories. I'd rather let people believe what they want. Me convincing them won't help anyone. They're not going to convince me of anything. My attitude is - crypto is here. You may as well sit back and see what happens as nothing I do, say or listen to will change it.

Are you still embroiled in debates with friends and internet creeps or have you let it slide?

As my part, at first of course I will do my best to persuade all the non bitcoiners to start investing on the cryptocurrency, but if they don't want to believe then I will not push myself to them and force them to use and invest on the crypto currency. In my side, I said all the things that can persuade to the non bitcoiners.
sr. member
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One should not try to convince anyone of anything, especially when it comes to investment. If a person follows your advice and loses money, he will blame you in it. Cryptocurrencies are high-risk investments and here everyone decides for himself whether to buy Bitcoin and wait for the bull market or not to be interested in the cryptocurrency industry at all.
legendary
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I still bother to invite them get involve in cryptocurrencies but I don't try to impose my beliefs in them "too much". It's always up to them whether they believe or not. I have some friends get into this forum but they didn't try to even get money from bounties because they said it is taking too much of their time.

same bro, I invited some of my friends to know about bitcoin, how I got money maybe for the first time they were interested and then I taught about bounty, they were excited with the payment given but only a few weeks they were lazy and said "just waste time" . It's useless to teach them to waste time.

So now if a friend wants to know about bitcoin, I want to see his curiosity first. Are they just curious or have the determination to try.
sr. member
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Some of them are open or willing to learn the basics of cryptocurrencies but it will take time to understand it fully. I'm only willing to engage non bitcoiners who are also willing to learn and be teach. Some of them are reluctant to invest in bitcoin because of fear after hearing the news that bitcoin is use by the scammers to victimize people. Educating non bitcoiners is difficult especially if that person have zero knowledge on cryptocurrency and still doubting so it better to avoid them unless they show strong interest to learn.
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I have tried to educate non bitcoiners about the true potential of the technology. By the time they started using it and realized the truth in it. This way some continues to use it, rest that left it without experimenting now feels bad of missing such a big opportunity of profiting. When people finds the possible way to get profited it is easy to make people get into bitcoin.
most people want to imitate someone's success. at first they were not interested, but once they learned the results, many wanted to learn. even many who want to get instant results like people who have succeeded in the crypto world. if like that usually they will be disappointed with what they get
legendary
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I have tried to educate non bitcoiners about the true potential of the technology. By the time they started using it and realized the truth in it. This way some continues to use it, rest that left it without experimenting now feels bad of missing such a big opportunity of profiting. When people finds the possible way to get profited it is easy to make people get into bitcoin.
member
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I tried before, but now I don't care. Just wait and soon they will come asking about it, they will have a lot to learn  Tongue
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I still do on a high level though. Back in the old days, it was cool to convert people on a personal level. Now there are so many people in crypto that individuals don't really make a huge difference. It is better to try and engage a large group of people.
sr. member
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Before I was making an argument about how will Bitcoin change our future money, but now, I will no longer care much because I know one day they will come to me and ask me how will they buy their Bitcoin.

Stop forcing them; they will never believe. Just let them missed the opportunities. After all, it's not us who lose.

They are foolish and deserve nothing. They pass up opportunities repeatedly then cry they have no money... Boo hoo... I just laugh. They have been told what to do but they won't so that's their own problem.
I am glad they not with us, I want to collect as many bitcoins as I can before mainstream jumps on board the bitcoin vessel.
copper member
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Clueless!
You're right. Everyone believes in what he wants. From the fact that you will convince the person of something nothing will happen. So do not waste your time and effort on it.

The catch is it is kinda hard. I've been telling friends and relatives about BTC and Crypto since Oct 18th, 2013.

So they have gone thru the following cycles:

The day I turned on my KNC Jupiter BTC Miner as a Newbie!

Oct 18th 2013 BTC   $150.00
Oct 18th 2014 BTC   $381.09
Oct 18th 2015 BTC   $265.33
Oct 18th 2016 BTC   $638.15
Oct 18th 2017 BTC $5,605.89
Oct 18th 2018 BTC $6,538.90
Oct 19th 2019 BTC $?

Current Price: June 21st, 2019 $10,728.37 10:20 pm CDT USA.

As you can see from the above as a date, it has been interesting what people NOT in crypto have behaved like

from 2013 till today 6/22/19

From 2013 to 2014: I was a genius!

From 2014 to 2015: I was an idiot!

From 2015 to 2017: I was a genius!

From 2017 to 2018: I was an idiot!

From 2018 to 2019: I was a genius!

From the trend above it is easy to see when BTC and crypto is dumping, regular folk will do everything in their

power (if they like you) not to bring up it is dumping. Most folk though like to show how wrong you are, because

they have no skin in the game. Then, of course, everyone, talks to you about BTC and Crypto when pumping!

 Like NOW. All I get is texts of WHY I did not twist their arm and get them into BTC or Crypto (

pick your own date and year and rinse/wash/repeat with the same relatives and or other folks)

It is 'completely' unwinnable. Somehow I'm the bad guy because the assumption is 'back in the day' I had 'bad

communication skills on getting into crypto and Bitcoin, etc.

When you should buy Bitcoin, a person is 'too scared' of looking foolish. (I resemble that remark) and don't buy.

When it is pumping, you buy on the FOMO and hype, when the price is too high. Then many folks after this buying too

high dump too soon. Thus it is rinse/wash/repeat for that as well.

IF an ETF ever came to pass from SEC in the USA, perhaps something stable would come from this all. But as of

right now...no one listens when I tell them to buy (2 months ago) and no one listens when the price pumps to

HODL (present time)

it is human nature and likely an 'unwinnable' situation for anyone hodl'ing crypto in the manner above.

So hell, I just kinda 'nod' now on the above and if they 'really' want to jump in the Bitcoin and Crypto pool

they have to work for the advice now. It is too much to deal with on 'every frigging pump and then dump'

year by year. So mostly, I don't say crap about BTC and crypto anymore, other folks now do the work or are

ignored and/or unanswered. After the last 6 years, I just kinda 'tune it out' unless you really push me on stuff

like this and actually, act (even modestly) on my advice. That is just the way it is gonna be in crypto from now

on I think.

Brad
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