Do you support or oppose the death penalty? - page 3.

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People all over the world are taking other peoples lives so they should be punished and have to go through the trauma their victims did! Why do people think it's acceptable to murder someone? I only think the death penalty should be brought on the worst crimes such as murder.If a man has taken the life of another man then he deserves death.

i oppose death penalty just because of thinking death is a salvation of these evil people.. for me they have to suffer a pang of conscience till the end of their lifes.

i don't think they'd have conscience still. monsters who kills a child after raping don't have it anymore.

I would rather consider sending them to work without pay, maybe manually digging stone tunnels while feet are chained, locking them to a small box cell just enough to lay around.

Good idea. But let's not go too far or we'll be like them. Meet torture with torture, and death with death. Make the punishment fit the crime.

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Quote from: designerusa on January 19, 2016, 01:41:43 PM

Quote from: Aggressor66 on January 02, 2016, 04:33:37 AM

People all over the world are taking other peoples lives so they should be punished and have to go through the trauma their victims did! Why do people think it's acceptable to murder someone? I only think the death penalty should be brought on the worst crimes such as murder.If a man has taken the life of another man then he deserves death.

i oppose death penalty just because of thinking death is a salvation of these evil people.. for me they have to suffer a pang of conscience till the end of their lifes.

i don't think they'd have conscience still. monsters who kills a child after raping don't have it anymore.

I would rather consider sending them to work without pay, maybe manually digging stone tunnels while feet are chained, locking them to a small box cell just enough to lay around.

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Quote from: Aggressor66 on January 02, 2016, 04:33:37 AM

People all over the world are taking other peoples lives so they should be punished and have to go through the trauma their victims did! Why do people think it's acceptable to murder someone? I only think the death penalty should be brought on the worst crimes such as murder.If a man has taken the life of another man then he deserves death.

i oppose death penalty just because of thinking death is a salvation of these evil people.. for me they have to suffer a pang of conscience till the end of their lifes.

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Quote from: acroman08 on January 19, 2016, 12:14:31 PM

having a death penalty will affect the people who is planing to kill someone.
this law is a must specially to the place where killing is very common. but of course
having a fair justice system is a must because if not, this law will be abused by the
people with power.

Death penalty must be imposed on all people who intentionally or negligently allow an innocent person to be executed. For people who do it intentionally, excruciating pain torture must be imposed before execution. If it is found that these people were innocent, then the people that cause them to be wrongfully executed must die.

However, if a convicted murderer is allowed to live, the people that allowed him to live must die. And the murderer must be put to death as well.

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Quote from: enhu on January 19, 2016, 12:53:20 PM

I support death penalty for it helps prevent people from committing a crime, maybe minimize the number of crimes. I think people will rethink before committing a crime when they are reminded by the penalty.

It should be remembered that death penalty is frequently used as a mode of punishment in two of the countries with the lowest crime rates (Japan and Singapore) in the world. On the other hand, the countries with the highest crime rates (South Africa, Honduras, Venezuela.etc) are the ones which had recently abolished the death penalty.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on January 19, 2016, 12:31:35 PM

Quote from: a7mos on January 19, 2016, 12:16:26 PM

that is why death penalty is necessary to punish such criminals

A 13-month-old girl was sexually assaulted by her father shortly before her sudden death in December 2012, a judge has ruled.

http://news.sky.com/story/1625559/toddler-abused-by-dad-before-sudden-death

Remember Kennedy v. Louisiana?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennedy_v._Louisiana

The savagery shown by the perpetrator (Patrick O. Kennedy) was outright shocking, and the jury had no option but to award him the death penalty. But then the human rights organizations made such a hue and cry, and finally his death sentence was overturn.

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"Kennedy was sentenced to death after being convicted of raping and sodomizing his eight-year-old stepdaughter. The rape was uncommonly brutal: it tore the victim's perineum "from her vaginal opening to her anal opening. [It] tore her vagina on the interior such that it separated partially from her cervix and allowed her rectum to protrude into her vagina. Invasive emergency surgery was required to repair these injuries."

If anyone think that this monster deserved something other than death penalty, then he needs to consult a psychiatrist immediately.

Psychiatrists generally don't believe in the death penalty.

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I support death penalty for it helps prevent people from committing a crime, maybe minimize the number of crimes. I think people will rethink before committing a crime when they are reminded by the penalty. death penalty however should be impose only heinous crimes though.

cutting of fingers can be impose to crimes like stealing or graft and corruption.

must be satisfying to see politicians without pointing fingers.

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Quote from: a7mos on January 19, 2016, 12:16:26 PM

that is why death penalty is necessary to punish such criminals

A 13-month-old girl was sexually assaulted by her father shortly before her sudden death in December 2012, a judge has ruled.

http://news.sky.com/story/1625559/toddler-abused-by-dad-before-sudden-death

Remember Kennedy v. Louisiana?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennedy_v._Louisiana

The savagery shown by the perpetrator (Patrick O. Kennedy) was outright shocking, and the jury had no option but to award him the death penalty. But then the human rights organizations made such a hue and cry, and finally his death sentence was overturn.

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"Kennedy was sentenced to death after being convicted of raping and sodomizing his eight-year-old stepdaughter. The rape was uncommonly brutal: it tore the victim's perineum "from her vaginal opening to her anal opening. [It] tore her vagina on the interior such that it separated partially from her cervix and allowed her rectum to protrude into her vagina. Invasive emergency surgery was required to repair these injuries."

If anyone think that this monster deserved something other than death penalty, then he needs to consult a psychiatrist immediately.

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that is why death penalty is necessary to punish such criminals

A 13-month-old girl was sexually assaulted by her father shortly before her sudden death in December 2012, a judge has ruled.

http://news.sky.com/story/1625559/toddler-abused-by-dad-before-sudden-death

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having a death penalty will affect the people who is planing to kill someone.
this law is a must specially to the place where killing is very common. but of course
having a fair justice system is a must because if not, this law will be abused by the
people with power.

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Yes and no. I support the death penalty in theory, but I'm opposed to it in practice.
Let me elaborate: I believe that certain people are worthy of capital punishment (the death penalty) which in my opinion include murderers, terrorists, and child rapists.
However, based on the current court system we have adopted, it actually costs more to sentence someone to death than it does to keep them in prison for life because when a person is sentenced to death, they are allowed appellate attorneys at the tax payers expense in order to give them the leeway to prove their innocence often through forensic evidence or DNA labs.
On top of that, capital punishment has not been proven to deter the crime rate of murder, terrorism, rape, or any other violent felony. If it were to actually reduce such violent crimes, I think it might be worth our tax money going to each death sentencing, but it doesn't.
Basically, I think it would more logical to either adopt another system to reduce government spending on capital punishment or do away with it altogether.
No wonder so many people are so split on this issue, right?

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Quote from: daarul50 on January 18, 2016, 06:49:14 PM

Quote from: xdrpx on January 18, 2016, 11:07:55 AM

I certainly don't support the death penalty. No one deserves to die in the hands of others, everyone will eventually die and often we'll have to leave the rest for his/her judgement to happen when so ever he has to receive his/her true punishment.

indeed, everyone will eventually die. but imagine if your family was killed, are you willing to just mute the killer in jail? if I clearly do not

Honestly imo, life imprisonment is a lot worse than ending their life, death is a release!

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Quote from: xdrpx on January 18, 2016, 11:07:55 AM

I certainly don't support the death penalty. No one deserves to die in the hands of others, everyone will eventually die and often we'll have to leave the rest for his/her judgement to happen when so ever he has to receive his/her true punishment.

indeed, everyone will eventually die. but imagine if your family was killed, are you willing to just mute the killer in jail? if I clearly do not

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I certainly don't support the death penalty. No one deserves to die in the hands of others, everyone will eventually die and often we'll have to leave the rest for his/her judgement to happen when so ever he has to receive his/her true punishment.

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Quote from: strayanbit on January 18, 2016, 04:41:43 AM

Rubbish, prisoners in America often work making everything from munitions to number plates, thats widely documented.

I am not very familiar with the situation in the United States. But the situation in the European Union is entirely different. The prisoners are entitled to luxuries such as XBOX consoles, saunas, and massage therapies. The prisons in Sweden and Norway are among the best. And they never ever ask the prisoners to do any sort of work.

http://www.businessinsider.in/Take-A-Tour-Of-Norways-Prison-Utopia-Where-Inmates-Have-Access-To-A-Recording-Studio/articleshow/44976697.cms

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It depends on the cause of the judgment. It seems crazy to condemn someone to death (or keep on death row for years) without the basis of this well-founded conviction. Unfortunately history has shown us that 4.1% of those sentenced to death are innocent.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on January 18, 2016, 04:23:31 AM

Quote from: madonnino on January 18, 2016, 04:01:45 AM

i don't support the death penalty, it's better oblige the criminal to do forced works to help the community

It is not always practical to make the criminals work. The human rights organizations will create hue and cry, and they will reject the end products manufactured in prison factories. In countries such as Russia and Belarus this idea has been implemented. But don't expect Western nations such as the United States and Canada to follow suit.

Rubbish, prisoners in America often work making everything from munitions to number plates, thats widely documented.

As to the death penalty someone wiser than I once said:
No State should ever indulge itself in torture, slaughter or assault as a way of enforcing its laws. State sponsored violence is a justification for the society at large to resort to violence. It is simply not acceptable.

Aren't we trying to move past killing each other?

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Quote from: madonnino on January 18, 2016, 04:01:45 AM

i don't support the death penalty, it's better oblige the criminal to do forced works to help the community

It is not always practical to make the criminals work. The human rights organizations will create hue and cry, and they will reject the end products manufactured in prison factories. In countries such as Russia and Belarus this idea has been implemented. But don't expect Western nations such as the United States and Canada to follow suit.

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i don't support the death penalty, it's better oblige the criminal to do forced works to help the community

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Quote from: oHnK on January 17, 2016, 07:24:42 PM

As we see in countries that apply the death penalty, crime figures less than countries that do not want the executions.

Quote from: iCeSaiah on January 17, 2016, 07:52:51 PM

I do, but it should be given to deep violation of laws. Because it really serves as a threat to criminals and as long the justice is capable enough to handle big time criminals.

Some who oppose would say "why kill people to show that killing people is bad" or " people change". Well i think that's why criminals are confident of what they do because they think they are forsaken by many.

In my own opinion only

There is no evidence the death penalty is the best deterrent. Maybe life in jail works as well. And that is cheaper than killing the person. What works better as deterrent is the chance of being caught and punished. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-26/fact-check3a-does-the-death-penalty-deter3f/6116030 "His position is shared by the majority of criminologists in relation to homicide, according to a 2009 survey of members of the American Criminology Society, who were asked to limit their answers to their understanding of the empirical research and to exclude their personal opinions. That study found that over 88 per cent of the criminologists did not believe the death penalty deterred murderers."

Quote from: subSTRATA on January 12, 2016, 11:18:04 AM

that aside, im all for the death penalty. in the US at least, prisons are more often than not for - profit, and the execution of prisoners that are either too far out of touch with society for any possible hope of integration or those that have committed a crime beyond what should be considered punishable with mere jail time saves the state and taxpayers money.

Quote from: Anddos on January 17, 2016, 04:22:46 PM

No way it's cheaper - it can't be.

Depending where you live probably is: http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2014/05/01/considering-the-death-penalty-your-tax-dollars-at-work/#2715e4857a0b28054a8517f0

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