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legendary
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I never read the terms and conditions and just accept them. All casinos write their terms of service as long and tedious as possible, so that users are too lazy to read it. In principle, I think that there is no need to read the terms and conditions, because the casino can at any time update the terms and you will have to either accept them or leave the casino.
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A decent gambling site should be transparent and fair, but we must still be watchful. While community strength is in numbers, personal effort is the first defence. A healthy and engaging gambling experience requires trust and caution in online venues.

This is true, we should know what we are doing, so in case we sign up to a gambling site to play, before we agree with their terms, everything that is written was already understood. Complaining in the end is useless because every casino might have a different rules, once you sign up, that simply means you agree to it.

Actually, for gamblers who doesn't really risk huge money, it's okay not to read the terms especially if they can just let go of their money in case their account will be ban and funds will be frozen. In the end, it's still up to our choice, and all the time it's important to be aware of the risk.
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I dont generally read the small print for alot of things but also I expect at that at least some will and any big problem would be raised on a forum such as this.  This is the worth of being a member of the forum you are not just one person alone but part of a group with a common interest and theres power in that.
   Its not to say you should not read the small print, I mean somebody has to be looking over these things but I dont expect to be entrapped in some web of lawyer speak and be told well its on you. Im not a lawyer and its usually accepted Im not required to be a legal eagle just to take part in any website even a gambling site for adults it should be fair and open to be called a good site really, most would agree with that imo.     The other point is when I first sign up, that might just be all I do I would sign up but not expect to immediately place large amounts of money there.  A site has to build up some familiarity, recognition, trust and established reputation I guess.   So I might sign up then go see what others are doing, their experience maybe what others think is the best game but often it'll be a while before Im forced into deciding for sure if I trust a place.
It shouldnt take a legal degree to understand ToS. This shared dependence on others for diligence might spread disinformation and neglect important nuances. Thus, while its impossible to read every ToS paragraph, a quick peek at crucial areas is wise.

Gradual gambling site participation is smart. Trust is earned over time. Initially signing up without investing heavily lets one assess the site's reliability. This technique protects financial interests and makes gambling more fun without unanticipated commitments or traps.

A decent gambling site should be transparent and fair, but we must still be watchful. While community strength is in numbers, personal effort is the first defence. A healthy and engaging gambling experience requires trust and caution in online venues.
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The gamblers are mostly lazy persons to read the complete rules of the gambling site.

Not only lazy, but also impatient. I believe not many bother reading rules, when they want to gamble here and now. Here is what I am talking about. Perfect example of laziness and being impatient. Spending few minutes before registration would have solved all of that users problems. And like Ive said, people refer to ToS or manual only when something bad has already happened.

Most of the gamblers will never read ToS, because they are at the casino to gamble, not to read. And a lot of them think, that if they were let to register, then all they do is correct and dont violate any rule.
Will it interest you to know that some gamblers does not even know what is called ToS and whatever they do not know about will not sound nice to them. This might sound strange but honestly not all online gamblers knows about terms of services. In the other way round, impatient is one other factor that makes gamblers not to read the terms of services. Gamblers will be thinking and strategizing on how to win matches and at same time they are expected to expend more energy in reading terms of services.

For some conditions i still read this a little but not all of it because I only want to see some important points such as provisions or maybe some things that are prohibited. But for others I don't pay much attention to that and prefer to scroll straight to the agree section Cheesy
This may be something that can be said to be bad but I don't really want to do a lot of thinking and just do what I want in gambling because in the end even if we don't read the whole thing but for those who always gamble, they must understand the rules and prohibitions set even if they don't read it first especially since I also gamble with small amounts of money so I think it's okay to skip things like that even though it's a little bad to imitate.

The gamblers are mostly lazy persons to read the complete rules of the gambling site.Many read the first 5-6 rules of the gambling site,but the fact is the gambling site will enable the rules at the end of the gambling site.By skipping we only get few minutes,but if we read by overcome of the laziness.The gambling sites can be easily accessed through the rules book of the gambling site,we also come to know about the weekly or monthly bonus of the gambling site.The date for the monthly bonus can be changed according to the rules mentioned in the rules of the gambling site.The gamblers can start with less money to avoid of big loss at the beginning.
Many also read the only places that are important to them and such group of people are like myself. I only read places where I know I can be victim and try much to avoid it. It is not all about laziness but the casino sometimes make their terms so bulky and boring to read. Maybe gambler will have to get lawyers that read for them  Grin
hero member
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The gamblers are mostly lazy persons to read the complete rules of the gambling site.

Not only lazy, but also impatient. I believe not many bother reading rules, when they want to gamble here and now. Here is what I am talking about. Perfect example of laziness and being impatient. Spending few minutes before registration would have solved all of that users problems. And like Ive said, people refer to ToS or manual only when something bad has already happened.

Most of the gamblers will never read ToS, because they are at the casino to gamble, not to read. And a lot of them think, that if they were let to register, then all they do is correct and dont violate any rule.
They may neglect to read the TOS, rules, etc...but soon they will realize the importance of doing it despite even spending time reading because, in the end, they are the ones who benefit from it.

I could say I didn't read everything written in the Terms and Conditions, but at least I read those terms that I see as the most important among others. In fact, most gambling sites have similar rules, so we don't need to read but what we have to do is to ask and verify some things. Well, what most important is that we are aware of what we are doing.
legendary
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The gamblers are mostly lazy persons to read the complete rules of the gambling site.

Not only lazy, but also impatient. I believe not many bother reading rules, when they want to gamble here and now. Here is what I am talking about. Perfect example of laziness and being impatient. Spending few minutes before registration would have solved all of that users problems. And like Ive said, people refer to ToS or manual only when something bad has already happened.

Most of the gamblers will never read ToS, because they are at the casino to gamble, not to read. And a lot of them think, that if they were let to register, then all they do is correct and dont violate any rule.
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legendary
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I dont generally read the small print for alot of things but also I expect at that at least some will and any big problem would be raised on a forum such as this.  This is the worth of being a member of the forum you are not just one person alone but part of a group with a common interest and theres power in that.
   Its not to say you should not read the small print, I mean somebody has to be looking over these things but I dont expect to be entrapped in some web of lawyer speak and be told well its on you. Im not a lawyer and its usually accepted Im not required to be a legal eagle just to take part in any website even a gambling site for adults it should be fair and open to be called a good site really, most would agree with that imo.     The other point is when I first sign up, that might just be all I do I would sign up but not expect to immediately place large amounts of money there.  A site has to build up some familiarity, recognition, trust and established reputation I guess.   So I might sign up then go see what others are doing, their experience maybe what others think is the best game but often it'll be a while before Im forced into deciding for sure if I trust a place.
legendary
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?
of course i did that, playing on a gambling site without it is really dangerous, the possibility of us being cheated will also be very big, there have been many incidents that are detrimental to gambling players, they can't withdraw because of KYC reasons which are suddenly implemented without any clear reason.  Apart from reading the TOS first, the other most important thing is to find out first the license of the online casino you are going to play at, a real license makes the chances of players being cheated very small, there are many gambling sites that use fake licenses so always pay attention to this carefully.

if you are depositing a good amount of money, i would say, it is a must to read the ToS of the site. because in case of trouble later on, you have something to hold onto. and not feel being screwed by the site.

many players are neglecting to read such terms, because aside from long texts to read, they feel, they have the upper hand over the casino if in case they will file a complaint later on. and that of course, not gonna happen. the terms are there for valid reason, and that is for the common reference for both players and the owners. this is also where the support will based on on how they respond to future complaints or issues.

i, for one, is not reading all the sections in the terms of the site. but i find time to read important sections such as min deposit, min withdrawal, fees, kyc requirements, prohibited countries, use of vpn among others.
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For some conditions i still read this a little but not all of it because I only want to see some important points such as provisions or maybe some things that are prohibited. But for others I don't pay much attention to that and prefer to scroll straight to the agree section Cheesy
This may be something that can be said to be bad but I don't really want to do a lot of thinking and just do what I want in gambling because in the end even if we don't read the whole thing but for those who always gamble, they must understand the rules and prohibitions set even if they don't read it first especially since I also gamble with small amounts of money so I think it's okay to skip things like that even though it's a little bad to imitate.

The gamblers are mostly lazy persons to read the complete rules of the gambling site.Many read the first 5-6 rules of the gambling site,but the fact is the gambling site will enable the rules at the end of the gambling site.By skipping we only get few minutes,but if we read by overcome of the laziness.The gambling sites can be easily accessed through the rules book of the gambling site,we also come to know about the weekly or monthly bonus of the gambling site.The date for the monthly bonus can be changed according to the rules mentioned in the rules of the gambling site.The gamblers can start with less money to avoid of big loss at the beginning.
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?
of course i did that, playing on a gambling site without it is really dangerous, the possibility of us being cheated will also be very big, there have been many incidents that are detrimental to gambling players, they can't withdraw because of KYC reasons which are suddenly implemented without any clear reason.  Apart from reading the TOS first, the other most important thing is to find out first the license of the online casino you are going to play at, a real license makes the chances of players being cheated very small, there are many gambling sites that use fake licenses so always pay attention to this carefully.
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Many gamblers neglect to read the terms and conditions when registering an account, they may have read the rules of other casinos but they don't realize that each casino has different rules, so as you explained, they will blame the casino when they don't realize they have violated the terms and conditions. provisions, but I suggest that gamblers who are lazy about reading casino rules can look for references from reviews of casino sites on bloggers or YouTube, because they will definitely discuss specific explanations of the terms and conditions so that you will better understand the rules and not violate casino rules. .
That's because they prefer to ask other gamblers and refer the common rules of gambling. it's an issue that can lead to misunderstandings and frustrations later on. But each casino has its unique set of rules, and assuming that they are all the same can result in unintended violations that may lead to consequences such as account suspension or loss of winnings.

Seeking references from reviews of casino sites on bloggers or YouTube is a practical and valuable one. Bloggers and content creators often delve into specific explanations of terms and conditions that provides insights that can help players better understand the rules. This additional information can serve as a guide for players that offers a clearer understanding of what is expected and allowed within a particular casino's policies. The reviews and content created by experienced players or casino enthusiasts not only helps in avoiding unintentional rule violations but also contributes to a more informed and responsible gaming experience.
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?

I know that my answer doesn't serve as an example of how others should do it and it isn't meant to serve as that anyway.

But I think when people have spent a decent amount of time with gambling in different casinos and online-casinos, most of them will have gathered a basic understanding of what is allowed and what is prohibited. What is required and what is recommend.

When you mention money laundering, do I really need to read the terms and conditions to know what I am allowed to or not? For instance, I know that casinos in general require any amount deposited to be wagered 1x before you can withdraw the money again. I don't know if a casino has stricter requirements for the wagered amount, but from my experience this is what I have in mind when I sign up and use a casino and I never ran into problems.

KYC: well, I just live with the fact and accept that they can ask for KYC at any time. I just do. Am I willing to provide my documentation to the operators of a certain casino? If not, why do I choose to deposit money with them in the first place? There is a contradiction in my opinion when people decide to deposit, but are then shocked when KYC is asked for and they decide against submitting it because they find the operators shady. Well, who is to blame then other than yourself?

Am I allowed to have several accounts? I assume no, that's it.

The list goes on and there are so many things that someone can understand without reading the TOS.

What I would recommend reading about is whether jurisdictions are excluded as this is typically something where different casinos can vary wildly and if you then have to submit KYC and it turns out you come from a country that is restriction from playing, well, then you have a problem. But most of the stuff is known to the average gambler.

Better be safe than sorry and read the terms and conditions!  Wink Enjoy!
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I am of the opinion that every gambling site terms of services should be summarised and put on the first page and yet encourage everyone to read to the end. If this happens I will simply read only the summary and proceed.
A summary is what you apparently wouldn’t get and you know why? They don’t want you coming here to give excuses on how it wasn’t stated clearly. That’s why, they’ve got a whole lot on it carefully crafted and updated from time to time.

For what is worth, the gambling sites have done their most in dividing the terms of service into segments. I think that has been some of the best ideas on how to follow up the bulk of terms in their service offerings.
They’ve got options for;

Withdrawals,
Deposit,
Restrictions,
How to use, etc.

It goes on. What you have yo do is yo search for those key places where you feel you can easily be affected and go over it. Read through and you would get an idea on if it is a site to keep up with or not. I do that often.

I do understand the premise of your reasoning and you are very right about it. If they put only summary, there will be cases gamblers will argue that the summary didn't capture the area they they fell victim. It is right as they always give an option to proceed only if you have agreed. So, if you have agreed, you cannot say any more that you weren't informed.

Also, the terms of services is a legal write up which is supposed to be very formal and acceptable as an official and working document. As you have stated, the best thing to do is to always check the area which is very  vital to you and ready it with alot of scrutiny.
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For some conditions i still read this a little but not all of it because I only want to see some important points such as provisions or maybe some things that are prohibited. But for others I don't pay much attention to that and prefer to scroll straight to the agree section Cheesy
This may be something that can be said to be bad but I don't really want to do a lot of thinking and just do what I want in gambling because in the end even if we don't read the whole thing but for those who always gamble, they must understand the rules and prohibitions set even if they don't read it first especially since I also gamble with small amounts of money so I think it's okay to skip things like that even though it's a little bad to imitate.
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Many gamblers neglect to read the terms and conditions when registering an account, they may have read the rules of other casinos but they don't realize that each casino has different rules, so as you explained, they will blame the casino when they don't realize they have violated the terms and conditions.
Seriously i hardly use new gambling site, but when am trying to use a new gambling site, then it will be recommended to me by someone close to me which have been gambling before. I hardly read gambling site terms and condition when trying out a new gambling site. I do always make my finding's about the gambling site before trying to create account on the gambling site. But seriously its better we always read about a gambling site terms and condition before using it, every gambling site's are having different rules, if you don't follow their rules, you might end up losing your account in the gambling site and you will be losing all the money in your account.

Sincerely speaking their terms are usually lengthy for one to start reading instead the most important are just those areas you have outlined so far,
Seriously some shady gambling site are usually using the lengthy rules and regulations just to scam their customers, the rules are always much, so that you wont be able to read all, incase if anything happens to your account on the gambling site, then they will end up showing you how you go against their terms and condition, so if you are trying a new gambling site, then always take your time to glance through their rules and regulations.
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But one of the things I understand about most people is that they find it very difficult to read before taking action especially when the message is very lengthy, that's why most people normally go through challenges whenever they want to withdraw on most Kyc enabled Casino and later they will start blaming the Casino when everything was stated clearly during the registration but they failed to read the term and conditions, so in as much as most people doesn't like reading lengthy messages but in times of registering in gambling platform there is always a need to read.
Many gamblers neglect to read the terms and conditions when registering an account, they may have read the rules of other casinos but they don't realize that each casino has different rules, so as you explained, they will blame the casino when they don't realize they have violated the terms and conditions. provisions, but I suggest that gamblers who are lazy about reading casino rules can look for references from reviews of casino sites on bloggers or YouTube, because they will definitely discuss specific explanations of the terms and conditions so that you will better understand the rules and not violate casino rules. .
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?
Actually irrespective of how lengthy the terms and conditions of every Casino or any other platform maybe is always important for someone to carefully read the terms and conditions very well because the only way those terms and conditions is usually on the first page during the registration is for the accessibility of the users so that they could easily understand how the platform works and the rules and regulations that binds it.

But one of the things I understand about most people is that they find it very difficult to read before taking action especially when the message is very lengthy, that's why most people normally go through challenges whenever they want to withdraw on most Kyc enabled Casino and later they will start blaming the Casino when everything was stated clearly during the registration but they failed to read the term and conditions, so in as much as most people doesn't like reading lengthy messages but in times of registering in gambling platform there is always a need to read.
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This is one of the reason why people don't even bother to participate in their bonus stuff, their terms is very versed to the extent that if you are not patient enough you won't be able to go through those stuffs, but let's be realistic those writeup of theirs is worth reading because it is their terms and condition we are talking about, this will inclined you to know if you will continue the process or not, as much as I hate anything that involves kyc verification I also believe that there are many people that feel the same as I do, so for us not to fall on those trap, we should give it a little consideration that's if we are really interested in the casino itself so that we won't fall victim. 

People do love bonuses I think there are some people specially asked for signup bonus, ref bonus but still that doesn't mean that the casino won't release the bonuses to them that qualifies for it, except for those that might want to cheat by signing up multiple account with same device or network, some of them are being caught up with those issues giving the casino or gamble site a bad records. And of curse people really need to read those terms that binds player and casino owners reduce much complaint.


Bonuses are very enticing but in reality it's not their to give the casino a disadvantage, it's their to promote their gambling site and they are really giving it but the conditions are not easy to meet. Now, if everything are meet and the casino won't push through the payment, then I guess there's a reason for a gambler to post a scam accusation to destroy the reputation of the casino, however, personally I don't think a legit casino would not pay because their reputation are not worth a penny, they are taking care of it as that is their biggest weapon to succeed in a high competitive gambling industry.
Casinos do pay out those bonuses except for those who tried cheating, bonuses are to attract bettor and to gain more traffic to their site with the bonus they are giving out to people, they will share the ref link to other people to sign up but what most of them does is that they would asked for a minimal deposit of 10$ or so, then gambling with it before cashing out the bonus.

I think I have red a post about a casino that request that from users, I could be wrong or right. But the fact is conditions are always very hard to their users to meet up but, those who can't meet up with the requirements easily go create scam accusation for them since they can't adhered to the term and conditions.
legendary
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The terms and conditions of casinos and other companies is usually very lengthy and somehow boring for some people. Hence , many people rarely find time to read them. They may actually contain some of the complaints that people raise about some casinos such requiring KYC if there is need or suspicion of money laundering activities.

What is your take on this?

I try to read them rules, to be honest. Not right when I register, but a bit later, but still I think it's better to read them, at least briefly. They are almost the same on all legit platforms, so if you read couple of them it becomes easier to understand the words next time. I encourage everyone to not ignore the Terms and Conditions completely. At least make an effort.

But it is very difficult for most people and in general to allocate time just to read something very long, although basically it is important and better to read it but people still with their old habits assuming that it is all boring, when in reality maybe they only need a few minutes to read all the terms and conditions provided by the casino on the sign-up board.

At least a little bit and picking up a few key points from the text of the announcement provided by the casino is better than completely skipping it all.
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This is one of the reason why people don't even bother to participate in their bonus stuff, their terms is very versed to the extent that if you are not patient enough you won't be able to go through those stuffs, but let's be realistic those writeup of theirs is worth reading because it is their terms and condition we are talking about, this will inclined you to know if you will continue the process or not, as much as I hate anything that involves kyc verification I also believe that there are many people that feel the same as I do, so for us not to fall on those trap, we should give it a little consideration that's if we are really interested in the casino itself so that we won't fall victim. 

People do love bonuses I think there are some people specially asked for signup bonus, ref bonus but still that doesn't mean that the casino won't release the bonuses to them that qualifies for it, except for those that might want to cheat by signing up multiple account with same device or network, some of them are being caught up with those issues giving the casino or gamble site a bad records. And of curse people really need to read those terms that binds player and casino owners reduce much complaint.


Bonuses are very enticing but in reality it's not their to give the casino a disadvantage, it's their to promote their gambling site and they are really giving it but the conditions are not easy to meet. Now, if everything are meet and the casino won't push through the payment, then I guess there's a reason for a gambler to post a scam accusation to destroy the reputation of the casino, however, personally I don't think a legit casino would not pay because their reputation are not worth a penny, they are taking care of it as that is their biggest weapon to succeed in a high competitive gambling industry.
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