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Topic: Do you think it is fair to save merits for high-quality, low-ranked members? (Read 1129 times)

legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1491
The first decentralized crypto betting platform
I'm locking the topic because I think that no much is going to be added. Actually, some of the latest post are repetitive.

I’d only like to add that I finally decided to give merits to Hero members, as they also need to rank up and 500 merits is a long way to go.
hero member
Activity: 1358
Merit: 513
I think merits shouldn't be given out under any form of strategy as it should be donated to the member you think for you and to you reads like a high quality post because otherwise once you'd merit those who you think need it you'd also expect favors back, and things will get messier.
member
Activity: 350
Merit: 13
I don’t  get enough smerits to spend as often as I would like to. This has made me decide that I am only going to give merits to high quality posters, lower ranked members; I won’t give any for Legendary members and maybe not to Hero members either.

I think it is better due to scarcity to save them for people who have a long way to rank up rather than for those who are at the top already and get merits easily.

What do you think about? Do you do the same? Do you think it is fair?

I do exactly this. Giving merits to only high quality posts of lower ranked members. Cause this way, there will be stability and less complaints.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1491
The first decentralized crypto betting platform
>..<

By the way, are you using this account far less often than the main one? I don’t see you getting many credits here, and I wonder if it is because you post less with this account or because there is a bias because of your rank, and many people who see your posts (and don’t know who you are) don’t merit you enough.
member
Activity: 244
Merit: 17
Register for Fit to Talk through me
>..<

Merit was introduced to encourage the recognition of good posting. Unfortunately most members do not realise that by banging out any old word sequence in order to meet sig spamming requirements, it makes it harder for sources to find meritable posts, and thus stops the spammers from improving their ranks and their the earnings. If you have an activity of 50 or more, and you haven't been able to pick up any merit, then you need to stop bounty hunting, and start to make positive contributions to the community.
jr. member
Activity: 196
Merit: 2
I just found your thread and I agree with your statement.
But like you say before don't waste your Merit. Just give them to the low rank when they post something good or something new but valueable or for people who give their service for free.
Cause it will make community will be healthier, and the low rank will have a motivation to make a good post.
I am as a low rank right now too always fighting to get some merit too not because to rank up but because it's my score from the community, If i already being a good people here or not.

^^
full member
Activity: 680
Merit: 173
Giggity
I think it is fair though, there are many low ranked members here now looking and creating a good quality post for them to be merited, but some are staying and preferring to be a low ranked member or a bounty hunter rather than making an effort to make a merit worthy post, there are also low ranked members that are staying in their local board that are creating a good quality post but doesn't know how to speak English I think you should merit those members.
member
Activity: 518
Merit: 10
About being fair! Just a look at this thread is saying everything. Who is getting merit? Legendary ranked members. Are their posts here, on this thread so constructive that they deserve merit for them? I dont want to say it, just decide for yourself!
jr. member
Activity: 316
Merit: 4
I do think its fair as high ranked members are already respected enough with the amount of merit point they have, when a legendary or hero make a post its assume that the user is posting something really useful and giving more merit i dont see the point.
Someone correct me but is there any level higher than Legendary??
When a low rank member gets merit for a post he/she wil be encourage to do more, when those merit dont come its discouraging.
sr. member
Activity: 742
Merit: 395
I am alive but in hibernation.
lower ranked members think it is fair because they want to rank up, and higher ranked members think it is unfair because although they don’t need the merits to rank up, they want to see their contribution to the forum recognized.


Actually it is very tough to review each and every post for Merit. So somebody who need Merit need to do something that can highlight the user. This debate will be now to what we should give merit  to instead of to whom we should give merit.

High quality (whether it is low ranked or high ranked) will eventually get Merit. so we do not need to save them for it.

On a contrary I believe in giving Merit to someone who can show promise to improve or improving with time. But it is again a time consuming process and you need surplus of sMerits to start these kind of challenge.

I am great supporter of these kind of challenges but currently we do not have any.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/joes-signatureless-challenge-win-25-4-merits-every-week-paused-3784164
legendary
Activity: 2688
Merit: 2444
https://JetCash.com
>..<

I started to look through your posts to see if I could find some to award with merits. I stopped looking when I saw that you had quoted an OP in full. There are so many posts that state that this is not just bad practice, but it's really annoying. I can only assume that you aren't taking any notice of the advce given out in these threads. That single post of yours lost you the chance of getting some merits.
member
Activity: 128
Merit: 10
The merit system felt like a disadvantage for some new entrants, but I think that it is worth just knowing that the top owner thinks like this.

Is it fair? As for the point of view, I think that it is NO because it means to see people with little merit advantageously.

However, I think that there is a way of holding the value of the forum and expanding the possibility of creating new motivation. I want to support.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1491
The first decentralized crypto betting platform
After all the replies, I come to the conclusion that, in general, lower ranked members think it is fair because they want to rank up, and higher ranked members think it is unfair because although they don’t need the merits to rank up, they want to see their contribution to the forum recognized.

If this post was on the Bitcoin Discussion section I would lock it, but I will leave it open for a while.
newbie
Activity: 124
Merit: 0
simply give it to the author who really deserves it, you find informative, and helpful regardless of their rank.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1491
The first decentralized crypto betting platform
I think it's fair. Legendary ranked members just have nowhere else to growth, so they do not need to be in merit system at all.

they still need to receive Merits in order to get sMerits to send, just like any other rank.

Yes but most, if not all, merit sources are Legendary and Hero members. They also had more merits to send when the system was implemented. Finally, they get merits easily, as merit sources and people with more smerits don’t care about ranks and obviously higher ranked people have more knowledge so their make quality posts.

I think it is sad that people still don't understand the concept of merit. It's purpose is to improve the overall quality of the forum, and merits should be awarded to encourage posting to achieve this end. They aren't there to help beggars to get their next packet of cigraettes, or to enhance their wedding tackle.

Well, I wasn’t talking about giving merit to shitposters, as I think it is obvious. I don’t think merits given to Legendaries help improve the quality of the forum. Higher ranked members post with more or less the same quality as before the merit system was introduced. I don’t think they are writing better because people give them merits.

On the contrary, giving merits to lower ranked members can motivate them make efforts to improve.

Are merits wasted if they are given to legendary merit sources? If you think of them as a form of currency, then the answer is yes.

Yes, I think of it like I’m a low-wages worked who can barely make it from paycheck to paycheck, so I can’t spend my money with the first thing I see that I like.

You don’t have that problem as you are a merit source, or a rich man, in my example.
legendary
Activity: 2688
Merit: 2444
https://JetCash.com
I think it is sad that people still don't understand the concept of merit. It's purpose is to improve the overall quality of the forum, and merits should be awarded to encourage posting to achieve this end. They aren't there to help beggars to get their next packet of cigraettes, or to enhance their wedding tackle. It's very discouraging to put some effort into a project, and to feel that it is wasted or ignored. Awarding merits is one way for the community to say thank you. Even better is to make encouraging comments. Without these, one doesn't know if one misunderstands the community needs or interests.

Are merits wasted if they are given to legendary merit sources? If you think of them as a form of currency, then the answer is yes. If you think of them as a form of feedback, then they aren't. Obviously I'm including myself in that category, so let me say that constructive, helpful comments are more useful than merits, and enable me to build or drop an idea. However, many heroes and legendaries are helpful in the tech sections, and I think it is important to show them appreciation. Don't forget that a merited post is an example to a new member, and the posters rank doesn't matter.
legendary
Activity: 4312
Merit: 3517
what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
I think it's fair. Legendary ranked members just have nowhere else to growth, so they do not need to be in merit system at all.

they still need to receive Merits in order to get sMerits to send, just like any other rank.
full member
Activity: 658
Merit: 152
I think it's fair. Legendary ranked members just have nowhere else to growth, so they do not need to be in merit system at all.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 16
I may not be in the position to speak as I have no smerits to give myself, but I believe that is only fair. Honestly speaking, I believe the rank of the author should be disregarded and just base on the quality of the post if you're planning to give out smerits sir. I may be new here, but I've seen low-rank members post interesting and helpful posts that I think deserve merits. Just my two-cents sir!
jr. member
Activity: 210
Merit: 2
I believe it is very fair. We, the newbies are trying to rank up as much as we can. but if we dont get merit, we are until jr. member. Any kind hearted person can can help us with this. But in the end, its up to the user ti share its merits.
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