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Quote from: dkbit98 on November 29, 2021, 06:33:14 PM

I can show the connection in few minutes, but I am not in the mood for alt witch hunts now and that was never the point of this topic.

OK, well you did bring it up as well as lightlord's alleged health issues, which I have my doubts about (but to respect you and this thread, that's the last mention I'll make of the latter). If you do, in fact, have evidence of Poker Player and naim027 being alts that you could present within minutes--as you said--why don't you just do that? It's not a witch hunt, and it would explain what everyone here is spending time speculating about.

Saying something like "Oh, I could instantly prove so-and-so are alt accounts but I just don't have time for that" is just a backhanded slap in the face to whoever it is that's being accused. It would be better to either not make a statement like that or show the evidence if you've got it. Just saying.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on November 29, 2021, 06:33:14 PM

I have all this turned off, that is why I asked about exact times Wink

Possible variant of how the events could unfold:

- Poker Player unlocked the thread at 22.58 (for a reason known to him).
- naim027 received a notification because she was subscribed to updates and publishes a post on 23.00.
- Poker Player sees that the discussion turns into a holivar and at 23.03 blocks the thread.

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Then Bob and Alice exchange mutual neutral feedback of a negative nature, and that's all, since both understand that any unreasonable red tag will entail reputational losses. Whatever it was, adding to the lists of ignoring each other seems to me the best solution if someone disagrees with someone. Tongue

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Quote from: dkbit98 on November 29, 2021, 04:22:47 PM

Interesting thing happened after that, topic was locked, and then magically unlocked just so that butthurt thin skin member could use his alt account (or his buddy) naim027 to make a post and seconds after that to lock this topic all over again.
So he enabled his alt-account (buddy) to reply to my post not allowing me to answer anything, and not only that that Poker Player even merited this post.

As others have mentioned, naim027 may have asked PP to unlock the thread so he could add to it. I have done this in the past when I wanted to add a point to a thread locked by the OP of the thread, and most of the time they let me make the post.

I do however think it is poor etiquette to re lock a thread immidiately after allowing someone to make a post in a previously locked thread. I think if you are going to allow a post to be made, you should generally allow others to respond to the thread, and add their own comments. This is especially true if the post is asking questions about (and/or accusing) someone else who was participating in the thread.

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Quote from: suchmoon on November 29, 2021, 04:48:42 PM

You don't have to be a mod for that. If you're watching the topic you get e-mail notifications.

I have all this turned off, that is why I asked about exact times Wink

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on November 29, 2021, 06:11:08 PM

but I just have the feeling...

I can show the connection in few minutes, but I am not in the mood for alt witch hunts now and that was never the point of this topic.
Sending merits to your own alt accounts and talking to yourself is also not cool, but whatever.
I am not offended about insults he said to me, and I am glad that he finally closed that inquisition topic.

Quote from: dkbit98 on November 29, 2021, 04:22:47 PM

Do you know for a fact that lightlord truly has health issues? I know that was what he claimed, but has that claim been substantiated?

He said it himself, and I am not going to talk about him and speculate anymore.

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Hmm. Poker Player registered in 2020 and naim027 in 2017. That doesn't mean the two accounts couldn't be alts, but in this case I find it unlikely based on writing style. I know that could be faked, but I just have the feeling Poker Player didn't use an alt to make a quick reply to your post, lock the thread, and then merit his alt.

I've been wrong before, but I think you're way off base on this one.

Quote from: dkbit98 on November 29, 2021, 04:22:47 PM

On October 10 member Poker Player created a TOPIC about other member Lightlord, that is know to have serious health issues.

I'm not asking this in a challenging way, though it might look like it when you're reading it: Do you know for a fact that lightlord truly has health issues? I know that was what he claimed, but has that claim been substantiated?

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1) I have at times asked people who locked threads to unlock them, and after I made my post they have been immediately locked again.

2) I think PP took this entire thing way to far and at this point I *think* there is something else going on and he is trying to force a confrontation with a LL and a few people who for the most part really don't give a crap. No idea why.

3) Reading the other thread again, I don't get why he got so bent out of shape unless an alt of his, is / was involved with LL or the casinos unless as I said in #2 he is trying to get a reaction for some reason.

4) As of *now* 1/2 of the last 20 posts from PP are about LL / his casinos. So make what you want from that.

-Dave

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Quote from: dkbit98 on November 29, 2021, 04:43:02 PM

Yeah, but then unlocks it just so naim027 could make a post and locks it against seconds after... not a chance this is coincidence. Cheesy

I am just asking if moderators or someone else (maybe LoyceV) could see times of locking and unlocking of topics, that was my question Wink

You don't have to be a mod for that. If you're watching the topic you get e-mail notifications. The topic was locked three times and unlocked twice. I still don't think it means anything. It's Poker Player's thread, he was asked repeatedly to lock it, do we really need to tell him now to lock it only after everyone gets their last word in... sounds a bit too much.

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Quote from: suchmoon on November 29, 2021, 04:33:41 PM

Multiple users asked to lock the topic, he did it. End of story.

Yeah, but then unlocks it just so naim027 could make a post and locks it against seconds after... not a chance this is coincidence. Cheesy

I am just asking if moderators or someone else (maybe LoyceV) could see times of locking and unlocking of topics, that was my question Wink

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My skin is thick (it can always get thicker) and I am just curious.

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I'm gonna try my best LoyceV impression and suggest to grow a thicker skin and let it go. I've had some heated arguments with Poker Player but I don't really think he means any harm. Multiple users asked to lock the topic, he did it. End of story.

Edit: removed confusing irrelevant phrase.

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I would like to ask DT members if there is a way to see when specific threads are being locked and unlocked, because I noticed something strange, maybe it's a bug or case of alt account abuse.

On October 10 member Poker Player created a TOPIC about other member Lightlord, that is know to have serious health issues.
Fast forward more than a month ago, this topic was still kept alive mostly artificially, disregarding several members (including me) asking to lock the topic.

Interesting thing happened after that, topic was locked, and then magically unlocked just so that butthurt thin skin member could use his alt account (or his buddy) naim027 to make a post and seconds after that to lock this topic all over again.
So he enabled his alt-account (buddy) to reply to my post not allowing me to answer anything, and not only that that Poker Player even merited this post.

Please check out time and see that topic was locked second/minutes after post made by naim027, and it was locked for hours before that.
Other members who participated in that conversation could probably confirm my claims.

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