Do you think Lightlord behavior is acceptable?

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Quote from: dkbit98 on November 29, 2021, 10:17:43 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if OP hires a private investigator to search for Lightlord (if someone else pays for that).

Oh really? Why do you think so? Why he would hire a private investigator to search for Lightlord? Are you a Secret agent of Lightlord by any chance? if not, Why are you crying here? This is a Public Forum and this board is all about reputation. Everyone is welcome to create a thread and do healthy criticism if it comes to reputation. This is not a personal matter since a lot of players and forum members are involved in this matter.

Quote from: dkbit98 on November 29, 2021, 10:17:43 AM

Small retrospective of this topic:

- 13 14 pages of mostly speculation and accusations. Roll Eyes

- Poker Player wrote 42 posts in this topic. (he is answering all questions like judge, jury and lawyer)
- Timelord2067 wrote 29 posts in this topic.
- LoyceV wrote 16 posts in this topic.

Oh c'mon. Look like you cannot find any topic to increase your post count and activity. why you are so jealous? The "Poker Player" Created the thread he shouldn't answer if someone asks a question? He should wait for you or Lightlord?

Quote from: dkbit98 on November 29, 2021, 10:17:43 AM

I am thinking about creating new topic called: Do you think Poker Player behavior is acceptable.

Leave
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Well, No One Stopping you to create a thread on this board unless it comes to reputation. You insulted him with all of your words. I don't think it's fair.
Lightlord is alone. No one poked him. He cannot see our posts for sure. if he could, he would be there and solve all the allegations (only if he want to maintain his reputation).

Quote from: Poker Player on November 29, 2021, 11:01:35 AM

Go fuck yourself.

This is an overreaction from you. Use your word Wisely. You should handle this kind of post gently.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on November 29, 2021, 11:57:52 AM

The topic was good enough before, but right now I see hates around each other's and personal agenda. It's better to lock it. About LL and his campaigns, if anyone wants to join the campaigns, then just let them. Why would we control others? If anyone has any problem against LL then they can use trust flag and make a post about it. But let's not make this thread against him anymore.

Yeah, I think I will lock it soon, but I'm going to reply first.

Quote from: FatFork on November 29, 2021, 11:47:46 AM

Quote from: Poker Player on November 29, 2021, 11:01:35 AM

Go fuck yourself.

What do you call this if not harassing?

You don't know the definition of harrassment:

Essential Meaning of harass
1 : to annoy or bother (someone) in a constant or repeated way She was constantly harassed by the other students. He claims that he is being unfairly harassed by the police. He was accused of sexually harassing his secretary. [=of making unwanted sexual comments to her]
2 : to make repeated attacks against (an enemy) The troops harassed the defeated army throughout its retreat.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/harass

So, no that's not harassment.

Quote from: FatFork on November 29, 2021, 11:47:46 AM

Nope. Sounds like the correct use of a trust system, especially for a neutral tag. dkbit98 expressed his personal opinion on this topic, you responded with personal insults and harassment.

So, according to you, he expressed his personal opinion and didn't insult me.

He called me a cyberbully, which is obviously false:

Quote from: dkbit98 on November 29, 2021, 10:17:43 AM

This looks like a classic case of cyberbullying to me...

Then he said this

Quote from: dkbit98 on November 29, 2021, 10:17:43 AM

(he is answering all questions like judge, jury and lawyer)

Which is obviously false and kind of insulting as well.

And finally he said this

Quote from: dkbit98 on November 29, 2021, 10:17:43 AM

I am thinking about creating new topic called: Do you think Poker Player behavior is acceptable.

Which he has not had the balls to do because he knows he has no compelling arguments to do so. And that veiled threat is also an insult because several red tags to Lighlord came out of this thread and what is implicit in what he says is that I could end up the same way.

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Quote from: Poker Player on November 29, 2021, 10:03:18 AM

Quote from: examplens on November 29, 2021, 09:23:58 AM

Obviously, ANN threads of lightlord's casinos Bitvest and 777coin are the right place for all discussions about their work. don't you think so? Gambling section also.

I like your rhetorical question but that's not the point. The point is that even if I lock the thread, people are still going to talk about the problems that Lightlord hasn't solved, no matter how much you insist on portraying him as a little angel, an innocent victim that we're shooting at while he's helpless on the ground.

Quote from: Poker Player on November 29, 2021, 07:52:59 AM

As I know, this thread was initiated because of late or no payment of the campaign signature participants and moderators of these two casinos. Just re-checked OP.

You need glasses. You already needed big glasses when you said that:

I do not stand in any defence of lightlord. I never had any contact with him, I was never in any of his campaigns, nor did I ever register at his casinos. I'm just trying to give as much impartial opinion as possible. (btw you sound like someone who is very angry at him and you find it very difficult to accept any dissenting opinion)
he paid off everything he owed and that is a fact, there is no embellishment and turning him into an angel.

Quote from: Poker Player on October 10, 2021, 01:37:03 AM

I know that he is an old, well-known member of the forum, and that, for example, in the past there have already been problems of this kind, in which The Pharmacist left him negative trust, later changing it to neutral when he paid.

Two things are happening today:

1) Excessively long delays in signature campaign payments, and
2) Delays in allowing withdrawals from casinos. You can see several cases of even weeks in the official thread.
3) Not paying his moderators or at least to do so on time, as promised, and again fail to communicate with them. (Edited to add this point on 10/21/2021 due to feedback left by trandhidung, later changed to neutral.)

I already have glasses and again, the first and third items are solved. that was the basis of the charge through this thread (correct me if I am wrong)
the very way the casino works is certainly better discussed in its ann thread than in a thread about lightlord behaviour.

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Quote from: Poker Player on November 29, 2021, 11:01:35 AM

Do you think this is a good use of the trust system? Sounds like a little kid throwing a tantrum to me.

Nope. Sounds like the correct use of a trust system, especially for a neutral tag. dkbit98 expressed his personal opinion on this topic, you responded with personal insults and harassment.

a neutral tag is probably always okay.

Poker Player, I'm not sure why you aggressively respond to suggestions or criticism that you don't like. relax, no need for that. don’t be petty and accept everything personally.
I'm coming out of this whole discussion, it has become completely meaningless.

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Quote from: Poker Player on November 29, 2021, 11:01:35 AM

Do you think this is a good use of the trust system? Sounds like a little kid throwing a tantrum to me.

If this was not a neutral feedback then I would say it was abuse of trust system but as long as this is neutral, I do not see any issue.

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Go fuck yourself.

You are overreacting now.

The topic was good enough before, but right now I see hates around each other's and personal agenda. It's better to lock it. About LL and his campaigns, if anyone wants to join the campaigns, then just let them. Why would we control others? If anyone has any problem against LL then they can use trust flag and make a post about it. But let's not make this thread against him anymore.

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Quote from: Poker Player on November 29, 2021, 11:01:35 AM

Go fuck yourself.

What do you call this if not harassing?

Quote from: Poker Player on November 29, 2021, 11:01:35 AM

Do you think this is a good use of the trust system? Sounds like a little kid throwing a tantrum to me.

Nope. Sounds like the correct use of a trust system, especially for a neutral tag. dkbit98 expressed his personal opinion on this topic, you responded with personal insults and harassment.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on November 29, 2021, 10:17:43 AM

This looks like a classic case of cyberbullying to me...and I wouldn't be surprised if OP hires private investigator to search for Lightlord (if someone else pays for that).

To say that bullshit you better not say anything at all. If you didn't write anything after that, I would have reported the post for low value.

Quote from: dkbit98 on November 29, 2021, 10:17:43 AM

Small retrospective of this topic:

- 13 14 pages of mostly speculation and accusations. Roll Eyes

False. Anyone can see.

Quote from: dkbit98 on November 29, 2021, 10:17:43 AM

- Poker Player wrote 42 posts in this topic.
- Timelord2067 wrote 29 posts in this topic.
- LoyceV wrote 16 posts in this topic.
- ...

So, what?

Quote from: dkbit98 on November 29, 2021, 10:17:43 AM

(he is answering all questions like judge, jury and lawyer)

The bias from which you speak has more to do with my ignoring your demand to lock the thread than an objective analysis of the issue.

Quote from: dkbit98 on November 29, 2021, 10:17:43 AM

I am thinking about creating new topic called: Do you think Poker Player behavior is acceptable.

If you think what I do is so wrong, you're overdue.

Have you already reported the thread to be locked?

Quote from: dkbit98 on November 29, 2021, 10:17:43 AM

Leave
Lightlord
Alone

Go fuck yourself.

Edit:

He just left me this feedback, obviously fake, and he didn't have the balls to put it negative because he knew it could backfire on him.

Do you think this is a good use of the trust system? Sounds like a little kid throwing a tantrum to me.

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Quote from: examplens on November 29, 2021, 06:51:08 AM

it is obvious that we should leave him alone for now.

This looks like a classic case of cyberbullying to me...and I wouldn't be surprised if OP hires private investigator to search for Lightlord (if someone else pays for that).

Small retrospective of this topic:

- 13 14 pages of mostly speculation and accusations. Roll Eyes

- Poker Player wrote 42 posts in this topic. (he is answering all questions like judge, jury and lawyer)
- Timelord2067 wrote 29 posts in this topic.
- LoyceV wrote 16 posts in this topic.
- ...

I am thinking about creating new topic called: Do you think Poker Player behavior is acceptable.

Leave
Lightlord
Alone

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Quote from: examplens on November 29, 2021, 09:23:58 AM

Obviously, ANN threads of lightlord's casinos Bitvest and 777coin are the right place for all discussions about their work. don't you think so? Gambling section also.

I like your rhetorical question but that's not the point. The point is that even if I lock the thread, people are still going to talk about the problems that Lightlord hasn't solved, no matter how much you insist on portraying him as a little angel, an innocent victim that we're shooting at while he's helpless on the ground.

Quote from: Poker Player on November 29, 2021, 07:52:59 AM

As I know, this thread was initiated because of late or no payment of the campaign signature participants and moderators of these two casinos. Just re-checked OP.

You need glasses. You already needed big glasses when you said that:

Quote from: examplens on October 14, 2021, 06:14:27 AM

people, maybe we should slow down a bit.
Yes, he was late with the payment and this is not the first time, but he has been running that campaign for years and why can’t we accept that he had some personal problems in real life? I don't know what the reason is, I don't even want to ask for his explanation for the delay. I guess he has a right to his privacy.
he also did not return and immediately started making excuses and asking for forgiveness. I believe he had a real reason to be absent and that there was no intention of deception here at any time.
running campaign 7+ years and during that time 2 or 3 delays, wherein the end everything paid off, it deserves to be well thought out before a final negative judgment is reached.

something else is the way to run a campaign and not use escrow so far, and here we can give a judgment, that he was not very professional for that.

To which I already answered you:

Quote from: Poker Player on October 14, 2021, 06:44:37 AM

Quote from: examplens on October 14, 2021, 06:14:27 AM

people, maybe we should slow down a bit.

Here you only talk about the sig campaigns. I will remind you of the other point we are talking about:

Quote from: Poker Player on October 10, 2021, 01:37:03 AM

Two things are happening today:

1) Excessively long delays in signature campaign payments, and
2) Delays in allowing withdrawals from casinos. You can see several cases of even weeks in the official thread.

You saying you have re-checked the OP makes me think that instead of glasses you need a telescope and re-check the OP one more time.

I have said it several times already in the thread, but I repeat it: if you are so clear about it, report the thread to be locked.

I don't rule out locking it myself but I'm certainly not going to do it based on those arguments.

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Quote from: Poker Player on November 29, 2021, 07:52:59 AM

Have you seen the gambling thread? People hardly talk about gambling any more there. They talk about Lightlord and the problems.

Obviously, ANN threads of lightlord's casinos Bitvest and 777coin are the right place for all discussions about their work. don't you think so? Gambling section also.

Quote from: Poker Player on November 29, 2021, 07:52:59 AM

Quote from: examplens on November 29, 2021, 06:51:08 AM

solved all accusations against them and his business ^{as I know}, without any complications or justifications.

That's simply not true. He didn't solve the hot wallet issue and I quoted a new thread "shooting lightlord" as you say just 4 posts above on this same page.

As I know, this thread was initiated because of late or no payment of the campaign signature participants and moderators of these two casinos. Just re-checked OP.
Is there any open scam accusations against them? whether that man owes anyone money from here?

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Quote from: examplens on November 29, 2021, 06:51:08 AM

This thread has served its purpose and my opinion is that it should be locked.

As I said in a previous comment, I'm thinking of locking the thread, but that's not going to stop people from continuing to talk about the topic, "shooting him on the floor", as you say.

People keep talking about the problems in the bitvest threads and the other threads that keep popping up.

Have you seen the gambling thread? People hardly talk about gambling any more there. They talk about Lightlord and the problems.

Quote from: examplens on November 29, 2021, 06:51:08 AM

solved all accusations against them and his business ^{as I know}, without any complications or justifications.

That's simply not true. He didn't solve the hot wallet issue and I quoted a new thread "shooting lightlord" as you say just 4 posts above on this same page.

Quote from: examplens on November 29, 2021, 06:51:08 AM

So, it's more than obvious that there was no clear intention to deceive anyone here..

No, it's not.

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Quote from: Poker Player on November 29, 2021, 01:49:15 AM

I currently think it is more likely that Lightlord is still sick or has a problem. He used to bid for advertising space on the forum. Just like he doesn't say anything about campaigns or solving the hot wallet problem, which he said he was going to do, he doesn't bid for ad space either.

The thread I quoted above makes me understand that bitvest.io (and I guess 777coin too) are losing customers.

Edit. His shitcoin project is also paralized:

Quote from: TwitchySeal on November 28, 2021, 09:38:15 PM

He's got another project going on as well, eloncoin - seems to be dying slowly but no announcement. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57248543

it is obvious that we should leave him alone for now.
he came here, paid off all debts, solved all accusations against them and his business ^{as I know}, without any complications or justifications. So, it's more than obvious that there was no clear intention to deceive anyone here.
deepening this discussion is like shooting someone who is already on the floor. This thread has served its purpose and my opinion is that it should be locked.

if there is any doubt about the way the business itself operates or something that others should be warned about but through some general review.

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I currently think it is more likely that Lightlord is still sick or has a problem. He used to bid for advertising space on the forum. Just like he doesn't say anything about campaigns or solving the hot wallet problem, which he said he was going to do, he doesn't bid for ad space either.

The thread I quoted above makes me understand that bitvest.io (and I guess 777coin too) are losing customers.

Edit. His shitcoin project is also paralized:

Quote from: TwitchySeal on November 28, 2021, 09:38:15 PM

He's got another project going on as well, eloncoin - seems to be dying slowly but no announcement. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57248543

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Quote from: LoyceV on November 28, 2021, 05:40:58 AM

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Yes, I know that feeling too.

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I just found that there is a thread, addressed to Zodiac:

Dear zodiac , ( www.bitvest.io )

I am going to quote the OP here because it is relevant to what we are talking about in this thread. It is addressed to Zodiac as manager but Lightlord is ultimately responsible as owner:

Quote from: bubba1666 on November 23, 2021, 04:08:09 AM

Dear zodiac,

I know that no explanation is needed when I say this because you know exactly what I'm talking about ;

What you are doing with the hotwallets is just plain wrong man , and you know it is. Now I don't know if this is something you already know, or if it's something you need to be told, but you are running bitvest to shit man, as much as I love that place you have ran it to shit, and there is just one thing I want you to know zodiac, I am going to take what's left of your community, and I am going to give them a proper casino to play at that they can call home, something that bitvest used to be. You can take this the right way, or the wrong way, and I suggest taking it the right way, because you only have so much time to make the correct changes needed to make that place good again before a new casino arrives, in which I will make sure that every single customer that you have left comes to check it out, and completely forgets about the hole in the ground that you turned that place in to.

What happens next will decided by you zodiac

Yours truly,
Your pal , strangesnitchy

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on November 27, 2021, 09:02:50 PM

Quote from: LoyceV on November 27, 2021, 05:45:51 AM

Just last month he said he had been fighting for his life for 2 months, which sounds like it can take a while to recover.

Your link is to a third person citing a quote that does not contain an actual link to lightlord actually making that assertion. Just because someone else said it, doesn't make it a fact.

I have no reason to doubt icopress' quote.

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on November 27, 2021, 09:42:00 PM

It isn't fair to keep campaign participants hanging like that.

The campaign is currently unactive. The only reason those participants "keep hanging" is because their posts are quite worthless and no other campaign is going to hire them.

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Quote from: Poker Player on November 27, 2021, 03:37:33 AM

There have been people wearing the signature of their casinos for weeks waiting for the campaigns to restart.

If a campaign is suspended or otherwise stopped, former participants are free to wear the signature if they so choose, but they shouldn’t expect anything out of doing so.

If LL chooses to not continue his advertising, he is free to do so. If someone posted that advertisers shouldn’t expect payment unless/until LL takes an affirmative action and he has not taken such action, there is no reason for LL to have to make a statement.

The above might be a shitty way of doing business, but it is not indicative of a scam, or a potential scammer. LL has consistently paid very little for advertising, so I guess he is probably not getting a very good ROI on his advertising. He could be taking this situation as an opportunity to stop advertising.

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Quote from: Poker Player on November 27, 2021, 03:37:33 AM

What I see is that Lightlord, again, has failed to communicate.

There have been people wearing the signature of their casinos for weeks waiting for the campaigns to restart.

I don't think I will remove/change Lightlord's feedback in the near future.

Yep, that lack of communication which would be so helpful to so many members seems to be a pattern with him, and there's nothing that would make me think that's going to change anytime soon. And one of the reasons why him communicating would be so helpful is precisely because it would let people know whether they can stop advertising for his service(s) or not. It isn't fair to keep campaign participants hanging like that.

I wouldn't change your feedback if I were you. I changed mine once when I probably shouldn't have, but in lightlord's case, two strikes and he's out.

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Quote from: LoyceV on November 27, 2021, 05:45:51 AM

Just last month he said he had been fighting for his life for 2 months, which sounds like it can take a while to recover.

Your link is to a third person citing a quote that does not contain an actual link to lightlord actually making that assertion. Just because someone else said it, doesn't make it a fact.

I wish lightlord a speedy recovery if they are indeed unwell.

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People are not complaining about the hot wallet anymore as far as I noticed in both of their ANN threads but all these drama is going related to the campaigns but the manager clearly said that the campaign is on hold and Lightlord promised to escrow the funds but after that he didn't made any comment regarding that if I am not wrong.

Quote from: LoyceV on November 27, 2021, 05:45:51 AM

Consider it from his perspective if he's still ill: he paid everyone, he's working on his health, sleeping a lot^*, visiting doctors^* and taking the time he needs to recover^*. I can imagine continuing his online activities is currently not a priority.

^* Slight speculation from my side

Taking care of his health should be the first priority now but he is logging into the account from to time but I am not sure that is he actually logging in or someone else but what people expecting is something professional, he can say about this to solve all the drama but he is being silent all the time. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Poker Player on November 27, 2021, 04:06:39 AM

I think he should communicate better.

I definitely agree!

Quote from: icopress on October 21, 2021, 12:20:19 PM

If he doesn't feel like saying anything, he could do it through Zodiac or someone who works for him.

That wouldn't hurt indeed. But there's not much open issues that need urgent attention, right? The campaign is on hold, participants have been paid. If it stays like this for a couple more months, I'd say that's okay.

Quote from: Poker Player on November 27, 2021, 04:56:17 AM

Here's a reminder for both of you. The campaign was not paused under normal conditions. It was paused because Lightlord owed 10 rounds and did not appear on the forum. So we can blame him because the campaign was paused.

It was not that Lightlord appeared saying that the campaign was stopped for certain reasons, Brainboss stopped it because he was forced to do so.

True, that could have gone better, but doesn't change the fact that current campaign participants know exactly what they're in on.

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it's that we are again with Lightlord fails to communicate and we will have to consult the horoscope to know if and when he is going to restart the campaigns.

They're free to leave whenever they want. I don't see a problem with that.

Consider it from his perspective if he's still ill: he paid everyone, he's working on his health, sleeping a lot^*, visiting doctors^* and taking the time he needs to recover^*. I can imagine continuing his online activities is currently not a priority.

^* Slight speculation from my side

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