Do you think Putin will rule Russia for life? - page 3.

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Quote from: Hazir on December 27, 2015, 10:32:38 AM

All that is true. Medvedev will be likely successor to Putin, he already was president in the meantime, but it looked like he was marionette with strings attached to Putin standing backstage.

I don't think that Medvedev will be the next president of Russia. He is too weak and pacifist. Putin might prefer someone who is a bit more aggressive, perhaps Ramzan Kadyrov or Sergei Shoygu. But the issue here is that both of them are not ethnic Russian and Orthodox Christian. The former is a Chechen and Muslim, while the latter is ethnic Tuvan and Buddhist. Putin himself is part-Karelian and Vepsian, but at least he is a Christian, so his ethnic background is not much of an issue. So the choice narrows down to Igor Shuvalov, Dmitry Kozak, Dmitry Rogozin, and Alexander Novak.

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i dont think so though everything is possible i guess

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Quote from: Hazir on December 27, 2015, 10:32:38 AM

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Quote from: Gianluca95 on December 26, 2015, 12:55:15 PM

Putin will rule at least for other 10-15 year, then he will have to go because of its age. I see Medvedev a possible successor of putin

I expect something similar to happen. In the future he may be getting to old to do the job. Medvedev is a bit younger and has support from the party.

All that is true. Medvedev will be likely successor to Putin, he already was president in the meantime, but it looked like he was marionette with strings attached to Putin standing backstage.
And I think it will be the same in the future he just doesn't seem like independent leader.

Another one, parroting what the Western MSM told him to say. Medvedev did a fair share of "liberal" acts, which in retrospect were harmful to Russia.
Besides, if you followed the newscape of the Russian media of the time, you'd have noticed a lot of friction between Medvedev and Putin.

It would be better if Shojgu or Starikov ran for president.

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As long he is alive there are chances to be the only one, he has good power but nothing is lifetime.

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Quote from: bitsmichel on December 26, 2015, 05:29:13 PM

Quote from: Gianluca95 on December 26, 2015, 12:55:15 PM

Putin will rule at least for other 10-15 year, then he will have to go because of its age. I see Medvedev a possible successor of putin

I expect something similar to happen. In the future he may be getting to old to do the job. Medvedev is a bit younger and has support from the party.

All that is true. Medvedev will be likely successor to Putin, he already was president in the meantime, but it looked like he was marionette with strings attached to Putin standing backstage.
And I think it will be the same in the future he just doesn't seem like independent leader.

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Quote from: Gianluca95 on December 26, 2015, 12:55:15 PM

Putin will rule at least for other 10-15 year, then he will have to go because of its age. I see Medvedev a possible successor of putin

I expect something similar to happen. In the future he may be getting to old to do the job. Medvedev is a bit younger and has support from the party.

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Reputation first.

Putin will rule at least for other 10-15 year, then he will have to go because of its age. I see Medvedev a possible successor of putin

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Quote from: Balthazar on December 26, 2015, 08:24:03 AM

Quote from: Daniel91 on December 26, 2015, 07:06:29 AM

Russia have such history and tradition with their rulers.

Russia also has a long tradition of democracy. Just for example, Republics of Pskov and Novgorod existed a long before the US even were formed. If we speak about the Empire, then courts were independent and judges were democratically elected for 3-year term.

Quote from: Daniel91 on December 26, 2015, 07:06:29 AM

If I remember well, nobody resigned or gave power to others in last 1000 years!

Then you definitely are suffering some memory issues.

Nicholas II - agreed to establish constitutional monarchy in 1905;
Nicholas II - resigned in 1917;
Grand Duke Michael - resigned in 1917;
Malenkov - impeached in 1955;
Khruschev - resigned in 1964 under a threat of impeachment;
Yeltsin - resigned in 1999;

Well, that I was able to remember in few minutes.

Quote from: Daniel91 on December 26, 2015, 07:06:29 AM

After all, there are no real opposition in Russia now.

There is a plenty of real oppositional powers, they're holding a significant share of seats in the parliament.

P.S. Liars like you have turned "democracy" into an obscene word.

So, you are talking about democracy in ancient time, under kings?
And all this rulers resigned because they was forced to do this, not because of their free will.
So, I'm liar because I expressed my opinion?
OK, well, think what you want but because we live in democracy I'm free to share my opinion, even if you don't like it.

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Quote from: QQ88 on December 25, 2015, 11:59:40 PM

Yeah definitely. Putin's not going to give up his place in the parliament anytime soon Undecided

Parliament? Looks like you have no idea what you are talking about. Otherwise you would've known that RF is not a parliamentary republic. Just close this page, and never try to pretend that you're more educated than you actually are.

Quote from: criptix on December 26, 2015, 12:27:05 AM

Nothing is more addictive then power Undecided

http://www.grammar-monster.com/easily_confused/than_then.htm

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Quote from: Balthazar on December 26, 2015, 08:24:03 AM

Quote from: Daniel91 on December 26, 2015, 07:06:29 AM

Russia have such history and tradition with their rulers.

Russia also has a long tradition of democracy. Just for example, Republics of Pskov and Novgorod existed a long before the US even were formed. If we speak about the Empire, then courts were independent and judges were democratically elected for 3-year term.

Quote from: Daniel91 on December 26, 2015, 07:06:29 AM

If I remember well, nobody resigned or gave power to others in last 1000 years!

Then you definitely are suffering some memory issues.

Nicholas II - agreed to establish constitutional monarchy in 1905;
Nicholas II - resigned in 1917;
Grand Duke Michael - resigned in 1917;
Malenkov - impeached in 1955;
Khruschev - resigned in 1964 under a threat of impeachment;
Yeltsin - resigned in 1999;

Well, that I was able to remember in few minutes.

Quote from: Daniel91 on December 26, 2015, 07:06:29 AM

After all, there are no real opposition in Russia now.

There is a plenty of real oppositional powers, they're holding a significant share of seats in the parliament.

P.S. Liars like you have turned "democracy" into an obscene word.

Well-spoken, Balthazar! Selective memory regarding Russia and re-writing of history to suite the needs of the ruling 1% is the name of the game in the West.

For those wanting to read up on the Novgorod Republic (1136-1478):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novgorod_Republic

As for "democracy" - I propose calling the US-brand of it for "democratism"...

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Quote from: Daniel91 on December 26, 2015, 07:06:29 AM

Russia have such history and tradition with their rulers.

Russia also has a long tradition of democracy. Just for example, Republics of Pskov and Novgorod existed a long before the US even were formed. If we speak about the Empire, then courts were independent and judges were democratically elected for 3-year term.

Quote from: Daniel91 on December 26, 2015, 07:06:29 AM

If I remember well, nobody resigned or gave power to others in last 1000 years!

Then you definitely are suffering some memory issues.

Nicholas II - agreed to establish constitutional monarchy in 1905;
Nicholas II - resigned in 1917;
Grand Duke Michael - resigned in 1917;
Malenkov - impeached in 1955;
Khruschev - resigned in 1964 under a threat of impeachment;
Yeltsin - resigned in 1999;

Well, that I was able to remember in few minutes.

Quote from: Daniel91 on December 26, 2015, 07:06:29 AM

After all, there are no real opposition in Russia now.

There is a plenty of real oppositional powers, they're holding a significant share of seats in the parliament.

P.S. Liars like you have turned "democracy" into an obscene word.

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Russia have such history and tradition with their rulers.
If I remember well, nobody resigned or gave power to others in last 1000 years!
Even in modern age, during communist regime, everybody stayed in the office until death.
So, I really doubt Putin will do anything different.
After all, there are no real opposition in Russia now.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 25, 2015, 11:08:06 PM

Quote from: butragenjo on December 25, 2015, 02:12:02 PM

putin is a mafia and kremlins are mafiozo Angry

Obama is Abu Bakr al Baghdadi and the Obamites are Islamic State. Grin

Actually, Putin is the one who eradicated the Russian mafia from the top government positions. Now there are more Russian mafia members in various Western European nations such as Spain, United Kingdom and Italy, than the number they are having in Russia.

This. The other countries are the actual mafia.

But mind me, I'm just waiting for someone to go to war with Russia.

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And between dictators, Putin is surely the best one for half of a century. Khruschev was almost illiterate idiot, Brezhnev continued the rule as an old man who barely can speak, Gorbachev played the fool, Yeltsin was a drunkard.

Putin doesn't drink, he does sports, talks deliberately and looks like a strong leader. That's the reason most people in Russia, tired of shame for the top government, like Putin.

But I hope we'll grow to democracy someday.

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Quote from: Redrose on December 26, 2015, 12:14:39 AM

Not really... I think he's going to retire soon. He wants to have a break too, you know.

Nothing is more addictive then power Undecided

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Not really... I think he's going to retire soon. He wants to have a break too, you know.

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Yeah definitely. Putin's not going to give up his place in the parliament anytime soon Undecided

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 24, 2015, 09:19:54 AM

Quote from: BADecker on December 23, 2015, 10:07:26 PM

Russian has changed more. The introduction of people of other nationalities has made Russia even more of a melting pot of nations than America.

Russia ain't Russia. But that's okay. China isn't China, and America isn't America.

Almost time to die again.

Russia has successfully maintained its white majority, despite decades of illegal immigration from the Muslim countries (unlike the case with the United States). For example, Russia was 88% White as per the 1959 census. It is 85% white as per the last census (2010). On the other hand, the United States have gone from 87.5% Non-Hispanic White in 1950, to 63.7% in 2010.

Dont you think that the reason for it is that nobody wanted to live in soviet russia?
And after soviet russia ceased to exist there was a decade of what you would call "wild west" in all parts of the former soviet russia?

Not sure but you people know that he was a former high rank member of the kgb?

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We will probaly see putin for a while in power until the russian economy is collapsing.

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Quote from: butragenjo on December 25, 2015, 02:12:02 PM

putin is a mafia and kremlins are mafiozo Angry

Obama is Abu Bakr al Baghdadi and the Obamites are Islamic State. Grin

Actually, Putin is the one who eradicated the Russian mafia from the top government positions. Now there are more Russian mafia members in various Western European nations such as Spain, United Kingdom and Italy, than the number they are having in Russia.

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putin is a mafia and kremlins are mafiozo Angry

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