Topic: Do you think SatoshiDice is blockchain spam? Drop their TX's - Solution inside (Read 12859 times)

I understand the issue at hand, but I believe this is the wrong solution. I have seen it from the side of being a Satoshi Dice user lately. I have had many transactions not accepted, and sent back, because I have been using the Blockchain.info Satoshi Dice send link, and even though I have my Blockchain.info wallet settings set on generous, they are still being rejected or taking forever. The problem is that the fees are too low for the size of the transactions being sent. I decided today, because I have one which isn't confirming, that I will start using the regular send link in the online wallet or sendtoaddress from bitcoind, and then set the fee higher rather than use the blockchain.info Satoshi Dice send link.

This is something that Blockchain.info needs to be informed of because I am sure they are the largest cause of this issue with that Auto Satoshi Dice send link because, as I have said about 80% of my bets have been getting rejected lately and that is with my settings on Generous Fee.
I also think that there should be a set BTC fee/kb sent minimum if there is not, where you  cannot even try to send a transaction with less than that amount of BTC fee for the size of transaction that you are sending. Obviously you can send more if you want to reward the miners, but there needs to be a minimum fee/kb especially with the BlockChain.info wallets. They have one set but it needs to be raised because it is BS when 80% of my transactions are being rejected when I have my fee setting at the highest.

Indeed. In the future, a few decades out, there might be lots of capacity for transactions which are sub-cent in real terms. However, this is certainly not the case today.
Miners are everything to Bitcoin. They have to make a profit from the block reward plus fees to secure the blockchain and everyone's holdings. Yes, there is the alternative of ppcoin, and anyone who thinks this is the ultimate coin should check it out. For me, I am just happy that Bitcoin has a great future as it is currently designed, allowing for some software optimizations.

Wait, what?  A person should not have the power to control their own resources?  Who should?  If I want to run a copy of the bitcoin client that doesn't relay 1dice transactions, I should be able to.  Perhaps I'll run a copy of the client that doesn't relay your transactions.  But as long as a majority of clients do relay these transactions (or the big pools clients don't bother to include them in blocks), this doesn't really do much good other than to make the transactions slightly slower AFAIK.

What it costs in USD isn't what it costs everywhere in the world. It also isn't factoring in Moore's law and cheaper energy costs going into the future.

You're thinking in $ when talking about what Bitcoin should become in the future and that might be the flaw. It's really a problem of physics and energy costs. Also you're putting the profits of miners above the function of the currency. If Bitcoin has to cater to miners this much then Proof of Stake is going to be the ultimate answer.

We need to keep an open mind people. She has a sustainability plan.


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Due to their method of reusing the bet inputs in the payouts to avoid double spends they cannot do this.
If they did a multi payout and one of the inputs was doublespent all payments in the multi payout would be invalidated.

SD is not a problem itself, but I think for the good of the community, SD better to find some better way to notify the gambler that they have lost the bet. For example, send every 500 notice or payout in a single transaction.

They copied us how flattering: http://satoshiroulette.com/reverse-dice.php?mode=BTC It does make sense to avoid dust if you can. Copying the copiers, very meta .
Now if they could fully come to the party with a 2nd game that optionally sends losing payouts ie: http://satoshiroulette.com/jackpot-dice.php?mode=BTC and encourage bots to use an API we might just see a drastic reduction in tx spam and at the same time reduced cost of betting for the gamblers

Don't use windows. Can't compile it myself.

SD is spam for Blockchain, not only that its spam for the whole Bitcoin network. Im not sure the percentage of transactions that are SD related but im sure its over 60%

signed for usual humans

Lol psy, accurate as always.

I compiled my wallet a few days ago with the "Advanced" tab in the options.



SD addresses, hope I didn't miss any of them:


This is free market guys. They're bloating UTXO set at an increased pace and forcing everyone to keep up, so I'm ignoring their transactions exactly the same way we handle trolls on bitcointalk, pressing the "Ignore" button. If enough people do it they will be forced to reconsider, and work with the community not against it.

You will have to compile it yourself, ofcourse.
I don't want to force anyone to have such an option on their GUI, as it may get them offended for having the choice.
You know it's always a mess when people need to use their brains and choose. They're used to have others who decide what's best for them.

Submitted as pull request, please vote.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/add-user-interface-to-set-dust-limit-and-filtered-addresses-154682

Yes sir, what have I missed?

Yes I have. Have you? 

Have your read this whole thread... ?

Won't this open the door to just setting your client to "relay nothing"? So what happens if a large enough group basically sets the client to run in "leech" mode?

"When everyone is looking for gold, it's a good time to be in the pick and shovel business." -Mark Twain

Patch has been applied and "Advanced" tab created in GUI on bitcoin-qt 0.8, 3 commits to be more precise, and gives the ability to anyone select whatever transactions the want to relay. Please note your wallet will still accept those transactions in blocks mined by the network.

Check it out http://www.rugatu.com/questions/9887/how-much-do-you-know-programming-c

Yes I have read the news and the Fork was caused by the mining pools bending over backwards to serve the needs of one company SDice. The hubris of these individuals is amazing but it is possible to raise the block header size its only a matter of time before they try again. When more people are on 0.8 client they will surely go back and try again. We must not let this happen!