Do you think the house can counter your strategy? - page 2.

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Quote from: Quidat on August 15, 2020, 05:14:01 PM

Quote from: dothebeats on August 15, 2020, 10:39:24 AM

They can in the long run, and it also depends on the game that you are playing. In dice, there's no doubt that they can easily take your money the longer you play on their website and you may not even see a streak of profit that lasts more than a week. The house edge is designed to have that, well, edge over the players in order to not lose money on the long haul.

Quote from: Text on August 15, 2020, 09:01:45 AM

Is there a possibility that the house can counter the strategy you are using if you inform or expose it in the chat and the admin finds out and can he report it to the developer to make immediate adjustments to the betting trend?

This, IMO, falls under unfair practices of operating a gambling site. You already have the house edge, why would operators tweak their games even further to have the odds in their favor even more? I would understand if the strats you are using are some kind of exploitable bug within the system, but if what you're doing is clean and not against their ToS and is a game feature, I couldn't see why operators should refine what already is a working and fair game to profit even more.

This is only to those gambling sites that arent really made just for running up the business for long term but rather they do just target out to scam out their users in the first place.Its true that no one can really beat the house, there might be some big winnings but in the end of the day they would be the ones who do smile considering that they do still make profit since we know that games are pre-set or designed that way.
For gambling site owners who do aim for long term runs then theres no need to tweak or cheat up player because when someone caught you up then your business is fucked up.

Because they know they will ruin their business if they will tweak up and all their efforts will be useless for this things and we see so many casinos doing a good job interms of quality experience.

And for this best not to trust a new casino since we will know how serious they are if they could sustain there casino for long time period, most of those new casinos fucked up their users since some owner create a disposable site for scamming purposes only.

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There is no way the house can report failed strategy to casinos platforms to adjust playing pattern for matching our strategy. Playing of casino had been for years favoring some lucky gamblers but that do not actually mean their strategy works, it's something of luck as well as little or no strategy at all.

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Just now I came back, super busy earlier. Also, I only thought about it last night, before I went to sleep.

Dice games turned out to be my hobby. It does not exploit or bug, I just use a fair strategy.

I just forgot to put it that I did not expect to beat the house edge because I knew that would not really happen, they have the advantage.

It's okay for me to have at least a little as long as there is.

As long as we know we trust the online casino we are playing, we really have nothing to worry about.

Anyway, thank you all for taking the time to provide answers, I appreciate it.

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Quote from: Text on August 15, 2020, 09:01:45 AM

Please be patient with my question, I rarely make a topic. hihi Grin

I just realized to myself and it suddenly came to my mind while browsing through the gambling threads and while I was also thinking about my past online gambling experiences.

So here's the question:
Is there a possibility that the house can counter the strategy you are using if you inform or expose it in the chat and the admin finds out and can he report it to the developer to make immediate adjustments to the betting trend?

Sounds weird I think right?

But I still want to know your answers, gambler masters. Thanks Wink

Well let's see , if we do go according to the Hollywood pictures , the house does keep track of each and every player and sooner than none , they can track you down , see what strategy you are using and then try and counter that.

But ..

The truth is halfway , most of the time the house is focused on the people who are putting down biggest bets or winning the most , in physical casinos , everywhere is cameras and therefore these cameras is keeping track of each and every player , there are even people who are paid to do just that .

But when it comes to online one , the house barely knows you Cheesy

, you don't have to fear about anything until and unless you decide to share if with other people on the forum and apparently someone did inform the house and the strategy was 100% solid.

Therefore I do think it might only imply in the physical casinos .

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You have to be more vigilant and careful in doing house gambling battles, especially when arranged with an admin strategy to manage your winnings with social media chat, it can lead to cheating etc.

Gambling competition in the era of very sophisticated technology is currently increasingly competitive gambling, so the fight and victory of each player must be based on common sense in accordance with the rules of gambling laws which are well known today.

For me, winning by means of chat for winners is a dirty strategy done by the admin, but effectively the gambling strategy must be specific, which must involve email, marketing, online which is set in content for a win reset, not in a chat house that determines notification by admin.

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There is no point for them to counter your strategy.

We all know that there is no strategy that can actually defeat the casinos, its been a long time and I don't think there is a strategy that can actually beat the system of these casinos. These strategies are our ways of increasing the percentage of us not losing the game, for example martingale though this strat increases the risk despite that.

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Quote from: Text on August 15, 2020, 09:01:45 AM

So here's the question:
Is there a possibility that the house can counter the strategy you are using if you inform or expose it in the chat and the admin finds out and can he report it to the developer to make immediate adjustments to the betting trend?

It will not come on that point since there is no strategy to beat the house.

A technical bug might be possible but it's not a strategy to beat the house but these gamblers look at some possible ways to breach the system.

Admins will only notice gamblers if they are doing crazy decent withdrawals regularly and that might be subject to investigation. After everything is clear and no trace of dirty plays, it will now be withdrawn.

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Quote from: Text on August 15, 2020, 09:01:45 AM

Please be patient with my question, I rarely make a topic. hihi Grin

I just realized to myself and it suddenly came to my mind while browsing through the gambling threads and while I was also thinking about my past online gambling experiences.

So here's the question:
Is there a possibility that the house can counter the strategy you are using if you inform or expose it in the chat and the admin finds out and can he report it to the developer to make immediate adjustments to the betting trend?

Sounds weird I think right?

But I still want to know your answers, gambler masters. Thanks Wink

Maybe no if you just use that strategy in short period of time since for sure all randomized in provably fair system but if the house detects that there are certain strategies working against them and been used by many gamblers then provably on their next update they will counter it so that those strategies will not work on their site.

But I don't think its really have any of those since we all know provably fair system is pure luck based games maybe this strategy things will only applicable on card games or other skill based games.

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Depends on how much you make money on that gambling site and didn’t lose that much, your account might be put on a watch list and the house will decide on how they can force you to lose money.

Its hard to make strategies on a luck based games so the house knows this thing and they might not make a lot of effort to monitor you. If you have strategies better to keep it on your own especially if you think its working, just make sure to done this accordingly for you not to be more suspicious account. The house will always win, and some gamblers will suffer for that, this is the basic way for the house to secure money.

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Quote from: Text on August 15, 2020, 09:01:45 AM

Is there a possibility that the house can counter the strategy you are using if you inform or expose it in the chat and the admin finds out and can he report it to the developer to make immediate adjustments to the betting trend?

Do you mean a gambler finds a way to beat the house always? I don't think that's possible unless there's a flaw in the system.

I don't see why the house should counter anyone's strategy. After all, gamblers are dealing with the house's own algorithm.

No matter what's the gambler's strategy, the house edge is still the same - random hashes.

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Quote from: dothebeats on August 15, 2020, 10:39:24 AM

They can in the long run, and it also depends on the game that you are playing. In dice, there's no doubt that they can easily take your money the longer you play on their website and you may not even see a streak of profit that lasts more than a week. The house edge is designed to have that, well, edge over the players in order to not lose money on the long haul.

Quote from: Text on August 15, 2020, 09:01:45 AM

Is there a possibility that the house can counter the strategy you are using if you inform or expose it in the chat and the admin finds out and can he report it to the developer to make immediate adjustments to the betting trend?

This, IMO, falls under unfair practices of operating a gambling site. You already have the house edge, why would operators tweak their games even further to have the odds in their favor even more? I would understand if the strats you are using are some kind of exploitable bug within the system, but if what you're doing is clean and not against their ToS and is a game feature, I couldn't see why operators should refine what already is a working and fair game to profit even more.

This is only to those gambling sites that arent really made just for running up the business for long term but rather they do just target out to scam out their users in the first place.Its true that no one can really beat the house, there might be some big winnings but in the end of the day they would be the ones who do smile considering that they do still make profit since we know that games are pre-set or designed that way.
For gambling site owners who do aim for long term runs then theres no need to tweak or cheat up player because when someone caught you up then your business is fucked up.

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Casinos don't need to bother countering your strategy. They always apply their rules in terms of averages. If the game is based on pure chance and there is a house edge, then no strategy will work against the casino in the long run.

When taking the total userbase of the casino, and looking at the number of people winning using a particular strategy, you will typically find that more people are losing vs winning with that exact strategy.

If they were to modify the rules to counter the strategy, they would end up shooting themselves in the foot, since it would completely break trust with users and demonstrate that their games are flawed.

Remember kids, there are no strategies in games of luck—just delay systems.

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Quote from: Japinat on August 15, 2020, 03:32:52 PM

If there is a house edge, there's no chance that a gambler would win in the long run, that is design to make them profitable to sustain their business.

What you are talking might be some bug or glitch that gives you an edge to win which is not anymore normal, of course if the team finds out about that, they will correct their system but not the house edge. Sometimes even if there is no problem with the system and they find a gambler very lucky winning big money most of the time, they just adjust the limit of such gambler, so they would really adjust to keep up their purpose which is to profit.

Most probably. I even lose in dice when I tried roll under for 97 and I still lose. Grin

You just can't win unless you tried some patterns and stop when you win some. If they see you constnatly win, they'd have to check your account to see what is going on. Casino is designed to make them money and if you lose through your account its definitely worth countering.

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If there is a house edge, there's no chance that a gambler would win in the long run, that is design to make them profitable to sustain their business.

What you are talking might be some bug or glitch that gives you an edge to win which is not anymore normal, of course if the team finds out about that, they will correct their system but not the house edge. Sometimes even if there is no problem with the system and they find a gambler very lucky winning big money most of the time, they just adjust the limit of such gambler, so they would really adjust to keep up their purpose which is to profit.

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No, they can't or better to say they shouldn't although in theory that is possible. Casinos need to be fair and not misuse such situations. At first glance that might seem as disadvantage for the house but on the long run it's always the house who is on the winning side.

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Possibility does exist but it depends on the casino itself whether they are trusted and fair or not.
I remember there was a site called luckygames who did cheat player by rigging the game because the player took an advantage from a +EV chance offered by the site.
It was not a cheating from the player's end but the casino decided to cheat the player.
It is an example that it is possible for a casino to counter your strategy. In this example, player's strategy is like a card counting.

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Quote from: Text on August 15, 2020, 09:01:45 AM

Please be patient with my question, I rarely make a topic. hihi Grin

I just realized to myself and it suddenly came to my mind while browsing through the gambling threads and while I was also thinking about my past online gambling experiences.

So here's the question:
Is there a possibility that the house can counter the strategy you are using if you inform or expose it in the chat and the admin finds out and can he report it to the developer to make immediate adjustments to the betting trend?

Sounds weird I think right?

But I still want to know your answers, gambler masters. Thanks Wink

I doubt that the house are going to counter your strategy just because you are winning or expose it in the chat. Maybe the admin will look at your strategy, nevertheless, they won't do anything on their part, they still have the proverbial ace on their side, which is call house edge.

Sooner or later, this house edge will get the better of your strategy, the only thing you have though is luck. So don't stretch them, if you are in a winning side, then quit. No need to tell your strategy in chat.

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Admin will take that if they see that the strategy are really working and the house are being exposed,

there's no way that they won't take actions as they can be like a cow breastfeeders for the gamblers.

There's adjustment that will be done, though there's also possibilities that they will bite you for a while

then make a kill once you put your guards down.

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They can in the long run, and it also depends on the game that you are playing. In dice, there's no doubt that they can easily take your money the longer you play on their website and you may not even see a streak of profit that lasts more than a week. The house edge is designed to have that, well, edge over the players in order to not lose money on the long haul.

Quote from: Text on August 15, 2020, 09:01:45 AM

Is there a possibility that the house can counter the strategy you are using if you inform or expose it in the chat and the admin finds out and can he report it to the developer to make immediate adjustments to the betting trend?

This, IMO, falls under unfair practices of operating a gambling site. You already have the house edge, why would operators tweak their games even further to have the odds in their favor even more? I would understand if the strats you are using are some kind of exploitable bug within the system, but if what you're doing is clean and not against their ToS and is a game feature, I couldn't see why operators should refine what already is a working and fair game to profit even more.

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Quote from: Text on August 15, 2020, 09:01:45 AM

So here's the question:
Is there a possibility that the house can counter the strategy you are using if you inform or expose it in the chat and the admin finds out and can he report it to the developer to make immediate adjustments to the betting trend?

This is a bit tricky, let's assume you strategy is not an exploit. Because you found an exploit within the casino and would make it publicly available so others could you is it. I think the casino would react very fast to fix any loop hole.

But if you just run a normal strategy without any exploit and might be running hot, I don't think the casino would change their game just because of you. There are tons of players and when changing their game just to counter your personal strategy I might make the casino vulnerable to other strategies.

Also there is a huge risk of such behaviour becoming public and ruining the creditability of the casino.

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