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hero member
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October 13, 2020, 06:27:27 PM
#41
I'm here in the forum for almost 5 years and I witnessed those bounty managers who managed bounty campaign. As you can see, most of them have a negative tag on their profile because of promoting scam projects. Because they also didn't know if a good project that someday it will become a scam nor exit scam. No one really knows if you only rely on the manager, they have been paid by the company they're promoting. But honestly, the most well-known bounty managers have a point factor considering as a good project but don't you ever rely on this.

The best thing you can do to this matter is to have enough time checking all documents of the project had, from whitepaper to a roadmap, and then the last part is the team behind the project.
They have also been tricked by some promises that have been made of these scammers. Not because they are higher rank and been running a lot of campaigns before they can't be fooled by these scam projects. No, because they are still human and they can still commit mistakes. But to give assessment comparing newbie and higher ranks, and base on their experience I'd preferably to trust high ranks than to a new one. But of course, they can still escape from those mistakes. Though these bounty managers already have a red tag but many members still trusting them it is because they know that it was not a thing to measure what kind of BM you are, mistakes can be corrected.
hero member
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October 13, 2020, 05:25:47 PM
#40
Judging bounty campaign by the rank of the manager could be misleading and this remind of Gold stablecoin when they started their bounty most people dont want to join cause the bounty was posted by their personal account which is still newbie but I was among the first people to join the project campaign cause I developed my knowledge in knowing genuine project.
Bounty participants need to develop themselves not to rely on bounty manager findings about project and the last time I checked all the bounty manager listed are once a victim of scam project
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October 13, 2020, 04:57:07 PM
#39
Truly speaking, if I see newbie as bounty manager on this forum, get a little bit of doubt and also don't get much confidence in that project. Another side to it is, it may be one of the team members from the project itself.
So the best way to check the project thoroughly, its team, whitepaper, and other aspects which may give some good feelings to go ahead.
Most of the time, it is one or part of the team members of the project. If you can see, their username is most likely the name of the project itself or related to the project. The best way is to follow what other users do, they continue to investigate a certain project and see if the project is real or not.

It takes time to really identify if the project is heading to a scam or not. Most of those newbie managers are handling their own bounty program so as to save them money. But don't get me wrong, if you scrutinize those projects handled by Jamal, Bounty Detective and others, how many of them actually achieved success? So they really can't guarantee success of the project even if they are established BMs here. Because it depends on the project team themselves how they will act on their objectives.
sr. member
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October 13, 2020, 04:51:20 PM
#38
Truly speaking, if I see newbie as bounty manager on this forum, get a little bit of doubt and also don't get much confidence in that project. Another side to it is, it may be one of the team members from the project itself.
So the best way to check the project thoroughly, its team, whitepaper, and other aspects which may give some good feelings to go ahead.
Most of the time, it is one or part of the team members of the project. If you can see, their username is most likely the name of the project itself or related to the project. The best way is to follow what other users do, they continue to investigate a certain project and see if the project is real or not.
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October 13, 2020, 04:46:46 PM
#37
Truly speaking, if I see newbie as bounty manager on this forum, get a little bit of doubt and also don't get much confidence in that project. Another side to it is, it may be one of the team members from the project itself.
So the best way to check the project thoroughly, its team, whitepaper, and other aspects which may give some good feelings to go ahead.
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October 13, 2020, 04:45:51 PM
#36
I agree that projects handled by high rank members are more convincing than projects handled by newbie rank. Because high rank
members must be more careful in choosing projects to handle, because they don't want to get red trust. Moreover, bounty managers
with enough green trusts will certainly promote profitable projects. Therefore I have more confidence in projects handled by bounty
managers who have high rank, than the projects handled by newbie rank.
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October 13, 2020, 04:19:25 PM
#35
I have made up my mind to always trust high ranked member projects although few turn out to be scam, that's from the team being dishonest actually. How newbie open a thread on Announcement board with no single image with two line description about a project is funny, but you can't judge them since they are still new to the forum.
I have seen and observed where a newbie with copper rank run a successful project in this same forum with no string or any form of scam, it depends on individual and the perception towards some project.
Do your own research atmost, it's not every time you need to be breastfed, TON the famous Telegram project was launched by a high rank member, it was legit but turn down by Sec. This are some of the unexpected things that can happen to any projects.
sr. member
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October 13, 2020, 04:15:01 PM
#34
Maybe the OP meant bounty manager or moderator of announcement thread. Sometimes the new account was open for the project, not necessarily that the moderator or manager is new. In the course of the duty, it will be obvious that the manager is not actually new to the forum, the process is a skill which must have been acquired. If the OP is actually new, one might need to be careful and research the track record outside the forum. ICOs with new individual in cryptocurrency is a scam.
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October 13, 2020, 04:04:50 PM
#33
Your title is kind of misleading. For a moment I thought you were saying what if a newbies starts a real "project". If that was the case, I would give them a benefit of doubt. But, based on current situation, it would likely be a shit project. There are lots of so called newbie devs that are making random projects to scam people.
But, I guess you are talking about newbie users over here working on behalf of a project to promote the projects. In that case, if the project itself looks legit, then I would have no problem joining those (but  i dont do those. 99% of them are waste). But if its some random project handled by a random guy, then no.
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October 13, 2020, 03:39:21 PM
#32
Following the point of op, some notes are important to be taken into consideration:

- A bounty manager should have enough knowledge about forum rules and this is how rank is important. The two examples mentioned in op both have negative projects because of managing scammy campaigns.
- Some of ranked members willing to manage bounties use alt accounts but there is no way to prove this unles they announce it by themselves.
- Many projects use someone from the team to manage bounties here, not all of them are qualified for this and usually scam projects do this.
- A good project will always use the right guy to manage channels here. Either they hire it or they spend enough time here studing the forum before to to do the task by their own.
- A hunter should do his own researches before joining any bounty regardless who is the manager.

There is no official list about good managers, but we all know that few good managers always manage btc campaigns and not that easy to hire them bor an altcoin project. Check the profile of Yahoo or Hampuz for instence.
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October 13, 2020, 03:20:48 PM
#31
I'd be suspicious of a newbie or a jr member starting a project because it's so easy to get to a member status on this forum that you really have to be lazy or completely new to the scene not to be a member.

That said, what would you rather see: a real fresh member who spent a few weeks on the forum or a bought legendary account?
legendary
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October 13, 2020, 03:18:13 PM
#30
I know many project managers that handles good projects such as Jamalezaz, bounty detective, and many others most of them are either hero members or legend, I believe they have enough experience to handle it mere considering their ranks, not to say the rank is the only criteria to be a good project manager.i always doubt those project starters with newbie ranks.is it that they decide to use a new forum page,or were the restarting after being hacked or disqualified or how come a new be is handling a project? This are few questions that comes to my mind about newbie managers.
The forum rank of a member is not really an indication of how trustworthy they are, however a newbie manager without a doubt is suspicious, and when we take into account the lack of previous history of such an account you have nothing that can tell you if that person is to be trusted, however we have seen many managers with high ranks that have done a pretty bad job as well, as such it is important that when we see a newbie as a project manager we give them the benefit of the doubt and let them prove themselves on the forum while at the same time we hold them to the high standard that many other good project managers have been able to establish over the years.
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October 13, 2020, 03:14:49 PM
#29
I know many project managers that handles good projects such as Jamalezaz, bounty detective, and many others most of them are either hero members or legend, I believe they have enough experience to handle it mere considering their ranks, not to say the rank is the only criteria to be a good project manager.i always doubt those project starters with newbie ranks.is it that they decide to use a new forum page,or were the restarting after being hacked or disqualified or how come a new be is handling a project? This are few questions that comes to my mind about newbie managers.
Your headline is entirely different than the content which is misleading, in the headline you are asking about newbie starting a project and in the main content you are talking about newbie users promoting the content and these are two completely different things. I will not trust a project team which is entirely anonymous because of certain reasons of bad experience i had in the past but anyone can promote a project if they have the patient to monitor everything and give the team the necessary result.

 
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October 13, 2020, 03:10:00 PM
#28
From my little time on the forum, series of bounty managers got negative trust from scam project promotion and for anyone to be promoting scam project on the forum is frowned upon. From my experience, those bounty managers with newbies accounts shouldn't be seen as scammers because some notable forum bounty managers do get into some projects with identity hidden to avoid be  tag when their project failed. Personally, I do ensure to make my own research into a project I tends to fall into in term of promotion. Some projects also request campaign managers to create account for their project thereby not having association or trace with notable forum bounty managers.
hero member
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October 13, 2020, 03:03:44 PM
#27
It does not matter what rank he has. Even if this is a beginner, then this should not immediately bother anyone at all. It is necessary to look at what the project organizers offer, if the idea of the project is relevant, if the developers post the results of their activities on github, then most likely the project is trustworthy even though if it was a newbie.
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October 13, 2020, 02:46:55 PM
#26
I know many project managers that handles good projects such as Jamalezaz, bounty detective, and many others most of them are either hero members or legend, I believe they have enough experience to handle it mere considering their ranks, not to say the rank is the only criteria to be a good project manager.i always doubt those project starters with newbie ranks.is it that they decide to use a new forum page,or were the restarting after being hacked or disqualified or how come a new be is handling a project? This are few questions that comes to my mind about newbie managers.

In most bounties, irrespective of who manages it, that is, whether newbie or high rank member, the manager tends to add a disclaimer stating that he/she is just managing the bounty and not member of the team thus showing that, even some of them can't guarantee the authenticity of the bounty; you can't blame them, they are still humans. So what I think is that, rank doesn't matter however what matters is how the bounty is being handled. For the authenticity of any bounty, it is left for the users or participants or hunters to make their enquiries and findings about the project thus deciding if it is to participate or not.
Also, there can still be situations where bounty payment will be delayed and the manager might turn a deaf ear irrespective of the rank. At the same time, there are bounties where payment will be delayed and the manager will fight for their hunters irrespective of the ranks as well, this type of managers are few. Therefore no matter what comes may, the rank of the manager do not matter but the way he/she handles the project and updates his participants on any information.
sr. member
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October 13, 2020, 02:34:22 PM
#25
I don't care which manager is good and professional, the important thing is I participate in a project that is clear and trustworthy.
Because I have participated with a project run by a well-known professional manager that ended in failure or fraud.
Currently, legendary managers or newbies cannot guarantee the projects they work on are legit...
although the average successful project comes from trusted legendary managers. the point is we have to research first about the project that we want to follow.
sr. member
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October 13, 2020, 01:30:55 PM
#24
I know many project managers that handles good projects such as Jamalezaz, bounty detective, and many others most of them are either hero members or legend, I believe they have enough experience to handle it mere considering their ranks, not to say the rank is the only criteria to be a good project manager.i always doubt those project starters with newbie ranks.is it that they decide to use a new forum page,or were the restarting after being hacked or disqualified or how come a new be is handling a project? This are few questions that comes to my mind about newbie managers.
I remember some words from a reputated manager here and I just forgot the whole reply. I could quote it in here when I find it again.
All I remember is that it isn't entirely their job to find scam project or bounties. They could just stop the campaign if red flags rise.
This is to tell everyone that a reputated or even a veteran manager doesn't indicate a legitimate project or bounty, but this isn't meant to tell that you shouldn't trust the manager.
They aren't fully affiliated with the project they manage so they don't have the fullest idea of what's going on inside.

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October 13, 2020, 01:10:27 PM
#23
Well, to be precise, BountyDetective is just a Jr. Member, but trust in some Manager can only be developed if you take part in his bounty campaign. It's natural to be wary of newbies ' campaigns. After all, there is a higher risk because bounty managers value their reputation very much and a novice has nothing to lose.
but right now it seems like a lot of managers are also using new accounts. or they use the same account as the project name. Some of the big-name managers already have bad names in the eyes of bounty hunters. I'm sure those who use new accounts are not completely new to this forum. they already have enough experience to be able to handle a campaign.
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October 13, 2020, 01:06:22 PM
#22
I know many project managers that handles good projects such as Jamalezaz, bounty detective, and many others most of them are either hero members or legend, I believe they have enough experience to handle it mere considering their ranks, not to say the rank is the only criteria to be a good project manager.i always doubt those project starters with newbie ranks.is it that they decide to use a new forum page,or were the restarting after being hacked or disqualified or how come a new be is handling a project? This are few questions that comes to my mind about newbie managers.
If it is a random newbie then I won't trust the project but if it is just managed by the team itself with a new account then it is not shady compared to random newbie but if those kind of campaigns want to ensure their legitimacy to the participants then they should escrow the rewards so people won't ask any questions about who is managing the campaign as long as the escrow is in the place to give out the rewards.
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