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Topic: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? - page 3. (Read 20577 times)

legendary
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December 03, 2023, 02:44:57 PM
Yesterday:  RNA can never integrate with DNA.  Impossible.
Nice strawman. It's been known for decades that endogenous retroviruses exist, and indeed, up to 7 or 8% of the entire human genome is derived from virus RNA or DNA. The argument has always been that the vaccine does not cause reverse transcription and integration, and indeed the study you are quoting only shows that integration can happen with COVID infection, not vaccination.

So if you don't want COVID integration in to your DNA, time to get vaccinated.
It's funny, how they switch between these 'alternative' views on COVID:
1) Just a flu, your immune system can kill it easy peasy - vaccine contains chips and / or modifies your genome and is not needed to kill the virus.
2) COVID = incredibly high-tech engineered bio-weapon, super dangerous stuff, they want to kill us.
The spike protein genetics package has been worked on within the bowels of the 'defence' industry (and much of the elements of the work contracted out) for many years.

Typical for genetics work, once the genetic packages are worked out, pretty much any old carrier can be used to transmit it around.  It would be counter-productive if the carrier (coronavirus, chimp adenovirus, etc) were a big deal.

In the 2020 cornavirus case, the infection was inconsequential and I've seen no credible information one way or another on it's reverse transcription rate.  (Such studies will end careers unless they are doctored to align with the appropriate result.)  It simply offered an excuse to jab people with the real bio-weapon which was the LNP goodie.  That can be seen plain-as-day in the all-cause mortality figures from around the world.

Hundreds of millions of years worth of evolution have created a situation where the body can and does deal effectively with natural viral genetic contamination so the low (if any) death problems associated with the so-called 'covid-19 disease' have been noted.  Numbers were normal for standard influenza.  The excess deaths following deployment of the 'vaccine' bio-weapon, on the other hand, are notable, and that's not even counting the destroyed health instances where the victim has yet to die.

And on vaccines:
1) Just get COVID, it's much safer and more natural way to get immunity and vaccine doesn't even give good immunity.
2) Vaccination kills healthy people by the millions, never ever get the vaccination, they use it for population control and suppression of the population.
Agreed.  And practiced although I have no idea whether I got infected or not.  My estimate is that most people did get infected (within the first quarter or so of the release) and it was so mild for normal people that they didn't even know they had it.  Re-infection seems to be limited mainly to those who became booster-junkies.

On sources:
1) These doctors are all corrupt and brainwashed by the education system; education = scam; we are way better researchers by reading random blogs on the internet all day
2) Look!! This one doctor agrees with us and disagrees with 99.99% of doctors worldwide, but he is clearly qualified to make such claims since he's a doctor! He must be right!
3) (what I call the 'epic fail') This source proves my point... It does not, and shows e.g. that vaccine > infection => this is what happened with the 'gene integration' topic as you explained.. Grin

I only pay much attention to people who will talk science and debate other scientists when there is a disagreement about the science.

Most vax-pushers remain anonymous and are referred to as 'experts' by the corporate media.  The few that do not (e.g., that nasty little twat with the bow-tie) run from real scientists like McCullough, as though their life depended on it.

The standard excuse for the pro-vax cowardice is that 'debates are done through papers'.  One thing I did learn since 2020 is how utterly corrupt the formerly 'respected medical journals' actually are.  They quietly retract embarrassing content by the corporate pay-roll shill 'scientist' when the 'science' they produce is to embarrassingly wrong, and on the other side refuse to even evaluate studies indicating things which their owners clearly won't like to be seen.

legendary
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June 18, 2023, 06:18:17 PM
The question now is, why are more and more government leaders admitting that they were wrong about Covid and the vaxx? And the deeper question is, why are they not resigning in disgrace for all the people they promoted the death of through use of the vaxx? And the deepest question is, why are they not being prosecuted for, at least, manslaughter, and being sent to prison?

Canadian Politician APOLOGIZES To Unvaccinated & Offers Them Jobs - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbWHU-9opIs.


Top Canadian politician apologizes to unvaccinated, “we were wrong…” she makes unprecedented promise…



https://www.revolver.news/2023/06/top-canadian-politician-apologizes-to-unvaccinated-we-were-wrong-she-makes-unprecedented-promise/
Danielle Smith, the current premier of Alberta in Canada, has done something remarkable. She took the bold and unprecedented step of apologizing to unvaccinated Canadians who've faced unfair treatment from the government throughout the "pandemic." But Ms. Smith actually went beyond just issuing an apology, Danielle actually made a promise: anyone who was terminated from their job due to their refusal of the COVID-19 vaccine will be reinstated.

Wow. That's not the type of humility you hear from politicians everyday, is it?

Comedian and conservative podcaster Jimmy Dore was actually blown away by this apology and covered it at length.
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sr. member
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Freedom, Natural Law
April 04, 2023, 12:24:26 AM

And just like that it is no longer approved.
https://forum.demed.com/COVID/posts/8QFjH1E9SG2wyvBxlZ0x

3 months before Covid existed the U.S. Department of Defense issued a contract for ‘COVID-19 Research’ in Ukraine.
https://youtu.be/AzmBEELz_E8
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April 03, 2023, 06:14:52 PM
The date many people have not trust coronavirus vaccine that is being introduce or being given on the street across from Nations the preferred going to hospital and pay with the money before they believe that those verses are not harmful and their re and it was brought because of vaccination to fight against the virus called Corolla virus
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Freedom, Natural Law
April 01, 2023, 11:40:58 PM
I have heard a lot of opinions ... many are pro vaccine but also many are against it ...
And some don't even believe there is a real vaccine ... What about you ?
I have received the first and second doses of the covid 19 vaccine. But when it was given to my body, after that I felt a lot of pain all over my body. But I think there were many sick patients who would get rid of the virus or various diseases if given this vaccine.

Sounds very much like a injury to me. Usually people running into a closed fist also feel a lot of pain.
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Freedom, Natural Law
March 28, 2023, 12:04:29 AM
And people still yearn for to have a corrupt politician as there guardianship who will speak on there behalf.  Roll Eyes


The main goal of public education is to induce adults to never achieve certain phases of maturity.  The ruling government as a structure swaps places with the individual's parent(s) in the individual's subconscious through a variety of means, and simultaneously the development of a phase where the individual strikes out on their own without reliance on parent figures is postponed.  So yes, psychologically most 'normies' do very much need 'gaurdianship'.

This is not a modern thing BTW.  It's an artifact of socialization among the species and expressed, naturally, across all societies from mud-hut living tribes-people to 1st-world urban dwellers.  It's wired in.  In more primitive societies, those who would be 'skeptics' end up being the leaders of the tribe (or shaman weirdos or whatever.)  In modern societies there is less room for these types at a leadership positions, but they pop up in anti-vax meetings when the government tries to cull the herd with a de-pop shot and that sort of thing.

As for Jim Jones, the most amazing thing about the event to me is the percentage of people who drank the kool-aid.  Something like 98% as I recall.  Granted, people who would follow the guy to South America were probably not the most clear-thinking in the first place, but still it is an amazingly high number.  I guess knowing that, I should not be surprised to see Fausti get above 80% in a lot of places, and much higher than that in a lot of segments.



As of March 20,2023 around 391 doses of COVID-19 vaccines per 100 people in Cuba have been administered.
Socialism is the real virus.
legendary
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March 27, 2023, 04:19:29 PM
And people still yearn for to have a corrupt politician as there guardianship who will speak on there behalf.  Roll Eyes


The main goal of public education is to induce adults to never achieve certain phases of maturity.  The ruling government as a structure swaps places with the individual's parent(s) in the individual's subconscious through a variety of means, and simultaneously the development of a phase where the individual strikes out on their own without reliance on parent figures is postponed.  So yes, psychologically most 'normies' do very much need 'gaurdianship'.

This is not a modern thing BTW.  It's an artifact of socialization among the species and expressed, naturally, across all societies from mud-hut living tribes-people to 1st-world urban dwellers.  It's wired in.  In more primitive societies, those who would be 'skeptics' end up being the leaders of the tribe (or shaman weirdos or whatever.)  In modern societies there is less room for these types at a leadership positions, but they pop up in anti-vax meetings when the government tries to cull the herd with a de-pop shot and that sort of thing.

As for Jim Jones, the most amazing thing about the event to me is the percentage of people who drank the kool-aid.  Something like 98% as I recall.  Granted, people who would follow the guy to South America were probably not the most clear-thinking in the first place, but still it is an amazingly high number.  I guess knowing that, I should not be surprised to see Fausti get above 80% in a lot of places, and much higher than that in a lot of segments.

newbie
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March 27, 2023, 03:48:54 PM
Hell to the fuck no..

I read an article that said it needed 2 doses, the first one will make you feel like crap, and the second one will knock you on your ass and you will definitely need to take a day or two off work for it..

Hell no..
I’d rather just catch the real thing..
I am definitely more worried about being forced to take the vaccine than getting the actual virus..
The covid19 is trust worthy, the truth is that so many people don't believe on the vaccine, even me i was one of them that dont believe till i was vaccine up, the covid19 does not affect fertility, the covid19 encourages the body to fight against different spike proteins in the body..
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Freedom, Natural Law
March 27, 2023, 11:59:57 AM
And people still yearn for to have a corrupt politician as there guardianship who will speak on there behalf.  Roll Eyes

legendary
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March 27, 2023, 03:29:17 AM
The dangers of the flu vaccine haven't been that bad over the years. Nobody dies directly from it, although there is tons of side effects, like autism. But now when the flu and covid vaccines are injected together, children especially are dying.


CGI's PatMac: VAERS Reports For Children Who Received BOTH A COVID-19 & A Flu Vaccine-



https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=219654
After the Biden Administration White House told all Americans to go out and get the COVID-19 shots and flu shots together, despite there being ZERO studies done on the side effects from taking both toxic shots at the same time, there have now been over 6000 injuries reported to the Government VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System) database, along with 147 deaths, from those who took both shots together.

Less than 1% of all vaccine side effects are ever reported to VAERS. (Source.)

One of those deaths was a 2-year-old girl from New Hampshire who was injected with the Moderna COVID-19 shot along with the GlaxoSmithKline Flulaval Quadrivalent Flu shot on December 15, 2022, and then died the next day.

Her name was learned from social media posts, Elizabeth Rose Ragonese, although apparently those posts have now been deleted, as has her obituary from the funeral home.

The obituary can still be accessed via archive.org, however.

White House COVID-19 Response Coordinator Ashish Jha, M.D. is the person responsible for telling Americans to go out and get both the COVID-19 and Flu shots together and inject them into their children.

He stated that the reason God gave us 2 arms was so that we could get a COVID shot in one arm, and a flu shot in the other.

Not surprisingly, the FDA is now looking into increased strokes among seniors who take both the COVID and Flu shots at the same time. (Source.)

As we reported last year, just the experimental COVID shots alone have increased the rate of strokes an incredible 68,000% compared to all previously approved FDA vaccines from the previous 30 years. (Source.)

Why are these shots still on the market??
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March 26, 2023, 05:50:29 PM
At this point there’s enough evidence out there showing you that the vaccine is not safe and you’re better off with natural immunity. It is clear that politicians used this pandemic to enrich themselves and sell a vaccine that they had been preparing since before any of us were familiar with the term Covid. This is going to go down as the biggest scam in human history if the truth comes to light.

I personally trust covid 19 vaccines since I believe in science. I believe that we had advanced our technology that these rapid actions of vaccine production is possible. But sometimes, this thought that we might have been scammed of these vaccines also comes in my mind since at this point of time where everything can be manipulated, this might be the truth. It is actually scary to think if this is true since greed already takes over humans that they do this thing of brainwashing the world. Let's just see what would be happen, and if this truth would be coming out soon.
legendary
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March 26, 2023, 11:25:57 AM
Yes >>> I trust it for what it is... death and destruction, and lies of the medical, the media and government. You trust them, so trust what they say... millions dead and incapacitated - https://openvaers.com/ and https://openvaers.com/faq/what-is-underreporting-and-why-it-matters.

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newbie
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March 26, 2023, 11:18:33 AM
Yes since it is carefully formulated by our Doctors and it is proven that our vaccines are effective to fight covid 19. They made many test before they release those kind of vaccines and some people that have those vaccines say that some of their illness cured by these vaccine after their 2nd dose. Also I believe that these vaccine help us to recovered not only us but also our economy from these big drop since lockdown are enforce and it cause no movements in all operation of any business That are why I could say that vaccine are effective.
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Freedom, Natural Law
March 26, 2023, 10:39:24 AM
Very save and effective, no worries mate.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1639713541157519363

Compensation for Rubella vaccine injury.
https://ecf.cofc.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2018vv0759-70-0
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March 26, 2023, 10:23:32 AM
I have heard a lot of opinions ... many are pro vaccine but also many are against it ...
And some don't even believe there is a real vaccine ... What about you ?
I have received the first and second doses of the covid 19 vaccine. But when it was given to my body, after that I felt a lot of pain all over my body. But I think there were many sick patients who would get rid of the virus or various diseases if given this vaccine.
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March 20, 2023, 04:55:11 PM
I have heard a lot of opinions ... many are pro vaccine but also many are against it ...
And some don't even believe there is a real vaccine ... What about you ?



I would rather not,as there are so many risks associated with the COVID-19 vaccine the most common being fever and allergic reaction.
You don't need to be afraid of covid19 vaccine when government approve the use of the vaccine. But the one we should try to avoid is those road side sellers of the vaccine, but except that you can use government vaccine for COVID-19, but till date many people is scared of the vaccine of covid19 because they have no trust for the vaccine

You don't need to be afraid of the vaxx if you don't take it. Just respect it for what it is and don't take it.

If you want to know what the Covid vaxx really is, you need to look here https://openvaers.com/. Then you need to realize that VAERS only has less than 1% of the deaths and damages the vaxx has done - https://openvaers.com/faq/what-is-underreporting-and-why-it-matters.

Besides, when you investigate it in detail, you will find that Covid is man made, just to attempt to force their damaging vaccines on as many people as possible.

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You know many always be afraid of it because they don't know the source of the vaccine, so I believe that the fear of the vaccine reaction is what makes some people to think  about the vaccine seriously,  and some condemned the vaccine due to the reaction they found in the vaccine that is why people like to see or hear that this particular vaccine is from government before they could accept of the vaccination
if we become afraid of taking the vaccine who is meant to eliminate the virus called Rona virus introduced by government that means we want to become a continuous career, I don't know the reason why people always type whatever thing government introduce as an elephant something why they valued what individual offer to them or give to them to treat their self or maintain their body system Eastern African countries that don't value What government issue to the Citizens
legendary
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March 19, 2023, 09:31:25 PM
Looks like we have only been seeing the tip of the iceberg regarding what Fauci has been doing with Covid and the vaxx. RFK Jr. is running for President no less. I wonder what they will try to do to him. Another Kennedy assassination?


RFK Jr.: Fauci developed 'bioweapons' for Pentagon for years!



https://www.wnd.com/2023/03/rfk-jr-fauci-developed-bioweapons-pentagon-years/
It seems the more that Americans learn about the COVID-19 pandemic, the more questions there are that remain.

After all, Anthony Fauci, Joe Biden's top COVID-19 adviser who has campaigned repeatedly for the idea that the bat coronavirus jumped – naturally – to humans in some location adjacent to the Wuhan, China, lab where scientists were experimenting on it, previously has been linked to funding, through grant programs, for that research.

But now Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is accusing him of accepting military contracts and developing bioweapons for the Pentagon – for years.
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.@RobertKennedyJr tells @jimmy_dore that Dr. Anthony Fauci has been in charge of developing bioweapons for the Pentagon since 2002, and in 2014, three viruses escaped from US labs, so he moved his bioweapons research to the Wuhan lab:

"They took the money that Cheney gave them…
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March 18, 2023, 03:24:42 PM
At this point there’s enough evidence out there showing you that the vaccine is not safe and you’re better off with natural immunity. It is clear that politicians used this pandemic to enrich themselves and sell a vaccine that they had been preparing since before any of us were familiar with the term Covid. This is going to go down as the biggest scam in human history if the truth comes to light.
legendary
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March 18, 2023, 11:43:19 AM
Average people are so hung up on the idea that government and the medical would never lie to them, that they won't even look for truth. The truth can even come out into the open finally, and many people still will not even understand that there has been a lie. This time it is the official lie of the PCR test that is being found out.


Unearthed emails from 2020 prove that covid PCR testing is a SCAM



https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-03-17-unearthed-emails-prove-covid-pcr-test-scam.html
The PCR tests that the government pushed on the masses during the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) “pandemic” are nothing more than a scam, unearthed emails show.

Prof. Martin Neil in September 2020 received a handful of anonymous emails that unequivocally prove the fraudulent nature of PCR tests, which were never designed to detect viruses.

“Some of the [test] sequences are found in the human genome itself,” one of the emails reads.

Further, the cycling threshold of PCR testing kits was almost uniformly set too high, resulting in lots of false positives. And were these kits ever even approved or certified for such testing in the first place? Absolutely not.

One of the biggest smoking guns is the gene sequencing that Dr. Christian Drosten used in his blueprint covid testing system, which was spread around the world. Drosten, the guy credited with inventing the screening system for covid, never isolated the virus nor even had access to it.

“Instead, he downloaded the virus RNA sequence from a Chinese database,” reports explain. “Drosten subsequently created the first commercially available RT-PCR screening kit based on this genome.”

“The Chinese researchers later claimed the isolated virus sample became unusable shortly after uploading the sequence so they destroyed all remains.”

(Related: How can PCR tests test for covid if covid has never even been isolated and proven to exist?)

PCR tests are fake, just like covid

Without access to the isolated virus, how was it possible for Drosten to obtain the full virus genome when selecting his primer sequences? And why is nobody else asking this question, let alone trying to answer it?

The anonymous emails explain that in addition to some of the primer sequences coming from the human genome itself, other portions of it come from an unknown source in seawater.
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legendary
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March 14, 2023, 01:22:45 PM
Corona vaccine is like "Jonestown's" magic portion drink. Some corrupt preacher will say to take or "drink the Kool-Aid"  for the cause.
The main difference being the number of people following the orders of "cause".


The real 'Kool-Aid' part of the vaccine is the lies of the promoters.

Various vaccine batches seem to not have had much bad effect on the people. Other batches killed them almost instantly.

The Kool-Aid of the lies is what is causing more people to continue to drink, or even to take their first sip.

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