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Quote from: Gozie51 on December 15, 2023, 01:25:23 PM

Quote from: aylabadia05 on December 15, 2023, 12:01:26 PM

Unfortunately those promotions are the insentives that casinos use to draw out people to register and afterwards bankroll with them but at the end they get scammed. Casinos that have scammed users have those packages which makes people to turn off their eyes from doing proper research or staying with old and reputable casinos.

You at least understand what I mean.
Bonuses are just sweeteners to entice people to play by signing up. Big players who have been gambling for a long time don't really care about bonuses, they only care about the convenience of the casino and have no problem with the withdrawal process and whatever their winnings are paid by the casino.
That's why many players choose proven casinos and don't play at new casinos created in a hurry.

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 16, 2023, 08:53:19 AM

Quote from: slaman29 on December 16, 2023, 03:23:18 AM

Bitcasino (and now Livecasino) just set the standard so high I guess

Clever way of advertising Bitcasino and Livecasino and they do deserve high praise for various reasons like zero fee withdrawals etc, but they didn't set the highest standards in the crypto gambling market frankly speaking.

The site that accomplished that is Stake and no other crypto gambling site has been able to overtake them in the popularity department yet.

We're not talking about popularity here. I mentioned even Bitvest which is absolutely low on popularity but high on "inspiring". Which is the title of this thread. Stake is way more out there, influencers and big noise and all but er, doesn't impress me. I 100% agree they did big on marketing but look at this forum alone to understand. See the Stake posters and see the Bitcasino posters. See post history. Then you get what I mean.

Quote from: iv4n on December 16, 2023, 01:42:26 PM

But Stake didn't gain popularity because of "unique and innovative games" in my opinion... they gained popularity mainly because of the great job with marketing, and of course with paying their winners fair and square. I guess we can say that "paying out winners and good marketing" are playing a more important role than unique games.

I am not fun of Bitcasino, Livecasino, and Stake casino... they are big and I respect that, but I chose to be active in some other casinos.

No problem I can respect that. I'm big on casinos that recognize old veteran players. don't give me big headaches at withdrawal. That's category of Bitcasino and Livecasino.

For others even the ones I like, giving me KYC issues for withdrawals when I play for years... if it happens even once I never go back.

But yes, back to topic of thread, Stake is #1 in marketing, but that's nothing to do with "inspired". Personally, I find a shame they have good money to throw around but instead of putting it to very good use, they pay a lot of terrible spam posters. I used to report so many Stake posters it got to a point I just ignore them in general.

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Quote from: goldenmonke on December 13, 2023, 11:30:50 PM

A lot of them seem to be hastily assembled clone sites with very little effort put in and gimmicky marketing. Do you guys have any thoughts on this... plague?

The gambling industry is a very lucrative business, especially for online casinos it's quite easy to create a new site without much work and since you don't need a lot of staff or other operating expenses, I can understand that people would like to run their own casino, because they think they will make a lot of money quickly. In the end it's up to us gambler to decide where we want to spend our money. For me personally I would always prefer to gamble at a well established casino that has been around for a longer period of time than a completely new casino. I like to check reviews from other users as well and for any new casino I am a bit sceptical how legitimate the first reviews are.

Is it really like that? Doesn't require a lot of staff?
I myself think that online gambling is a physical casino gambling company that exists somewhere, but seeing the development of technology today so the physical casino is holding an online casino for people who want to gamble without having to go to a physical casino. I don't know how clearly.

I myself gamble online without thinking about other reviews, because I'm lazy to listen to it so when I see this site seems interesting and convincing then I will play there, but once I was cheated where my winnings were not paid, and this made me always gamble carefully, especially in choosing gambling sites. because someone said, when we get a big win on one site, then most likely the site will not give us a win back. I'm not sure whether it's true or not, because my gambling goal is just for fun, I don't really think about it, but I also think that there is a possibility like that. so I stay on the gambling site until I get a win, on the other hand I always play on one site, and when I get a big enough win I cash it in, and a few days later I play on the site again and get another win, I think this is just because of luck, because I myself do not gamble using tricks or strategies.

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Quote from: 8ombard on December 16, 2023, 09:09:27 PM

We invite you to explore our project, which resonates with the point being made in this thread. https://www.8ombard.com/ is our website, we've also just created a thread here on the forum if you're interested.

Let me share your ANN Thread here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63337549

But better stick to your thread and let people find your Announcement than spreading it in other threads specially this one that tackles about uninspired casino , and also try extending your advertising in other forms that will generate you legit players and depositors .

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About OP's topic in which I agreed completely , I also believe that some of those casinos are being handled by almost similar people or person , that gives them opportunity to have as many clients as possible.

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Quote from: goldenmonke on December 13, 2023, 11:30:50 PM

A lot of them seem to be hastily assembled clone sites with very little effort put in and gimmicky marketing. Do you guys have any thoughts on this... plague?

There are two types of casinos which may do this, the first one are scam casinos which are trying to imitate the image of another one, to make players think they are playing at a popular casino when in fact this is not the case, and it goes without saying that we need to avoid those casinos at all costs.

The second type of casino that may do this is one that is trying to compete with the casinos at the very top, so instead of creating a completely different layout, they may copy the layout of a popular casino so the gamblers that have played there feel at home at their casino, and while not very original, their owners can do whatever they want with the image and the layout of their casino.

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Quote from: goldenmonke on December 13, 2023, 11:30:50 PM

A lot of them seem to be hastily assembled clone sites with very little effort put in and gimmicky marketing. Do you guys have any thoughts on this... plague?

Several online casino sites do have almost the same interface. I don't think it's boring. or several types of games that are the same. Maybe it's from the same developer or a scammer trying to make a profit. but not all of them are scammers. But you need to be careful when choosing a new casino.

perhaps recently more online gamblers have accessed new slot sites. the reason is because on other sites they don't get good spin bonuses or their luck runs out on other sites and they decide to look for a new slot site. I'm not sure if it's a scam or not, but some do have almost the same interface.

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Quote from: goldenmonke on December 13, 2023, 11:30:50 PM

A lot of them seem to be hastily assembled clone sites with very little effort put in and gimmicky marketing. Do you guys have any thoughts on this... plague?

I have noticed the array of new online casinos rolling out almost every month, it seems as if the casino business is the most lucrative right now and the gambling market seems to be on a rapid expansion and everyone wants to get their own "fare share of the cake". However, my concerns are around the management of these casinos.

I have stated it before in this forum, opening a business and cloning sites is very easy but managing it is where the challenges are mostly encountered. No business stands strong without being tested and its at this phase that the fate of that business is decided, unfortunately, most businesses don't make it and they sacrifice their users even as they take a bow out of the space.

New casinos must know that it is not just about opening a casino but running it.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on December 16, 2023, 09:45:10 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on December 16, 2023, 08:53:19 AM

Clever way of advertising Bitcasino and Livecasino and they do deserve high praise for various reasons like zero fee withdrawals etc, but they didn't set the highest standards in the crypto gambling market frankly speaking.

The site that accomplished that is Stake and no other crypto gambling site has been able to overtake them in the popularity department yet.

I started playing on Stake way longer before I decide to apply to join their signature campaign on this forum, and lucky enough, I was accepted, and since then, I've continued to play there, a few times have I tried some other casinos and trust, havent had experiences as good as that I get on Stake..

Hey fivestar I think I saw you playing on l0tt0. Small projects like that stand out to me compared to the many clones. Just something a little bit different. livecasino is exactly the kind of thing I was referencing in my original post, looks just like bitcasino, but asian.

Some of the stake originals are really great like dragon tower, though I'm sure much of what is on there was not invented there (like crash, etc). Why do you think stake was so successful? Does it just boil down to great marketing, reputation, smooth and top quality ux/product?

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Quote from: iv4n on December 16, 2023, 01:42:26 PM

Quote from: Haunebu on December 16, 2023, 08:53:19 AM

Quote from: slaman29 on December 16, 2023, 03:23:18 AM

Bitcasino (and now Livecasino) just set the standard so high I guess

Clever way of advertising Bitcasino and Livecasino and they do deserve high praise for various reasons like zero fee withdrawals etc, but they didn't set the highest standards in the crypto gambling market frankly speaking.

The site that accomplished that is Stake and no other crypto gambling site has been able to overtake them in the popularity department yet.

But Stake didn't gain popularity because of "unique and innovative games" in my opinion... they gained popularity mainly because of the great job with marketing, and of course with paying their winners fair and square. I guess we can say that "paying out winners and good marketing" are playing a more important role than unique games.

I am not fun of Bitcasino, Livecasino, and Stake casino... they are big and I respect that, but I chose to be active in some other casinos.

If we do try to look back on where Stake did really start off, then basing up into my knowledge and awareness on which it is really that something start with Primedice on which looking back
that Primedice was the most or one of the popular dice back into those previous years on which this is something that they've started on making that casino which is made up on the same person or owner
which they've decided on creating Stake. I dont know if this one is really that on exact considering that this is based on awareness but i do agree somewhat when it comes to popularity and on how they do able to gain up
that one, on which one of those things would really be in marketing on which it is really that true that they do really being that too aggressive when it comes to this manner.

When it comes to design and other aspects then we do really be able to see that there are new sites which do really look the same on which those new sites are really that
making use of those templates with having a little much different in some aspects but it can really be having that giving that impression that it do really looks the same.

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 16, 2023, 08:53:19 AM

Quote from: slaman29 on December 16, 2023, 03:23:18 AM

Bitcasino (and now Livecasino) just set the standard so high I guess

Clever way of advertising Bitcasino and Livecasino and they do deserve high praise for various reasons like zero fee withdrawals etc, but they didn't set the highest standards in the crypto gambling market frankly speaking.

The site that accomplished that is Stake and no other crypto gambling site has been able to overtake them in the popularity department yet.

But Stake didn't gain popularity because of "unique and innovative games" in my opinion... they gained popularity mainly because of the great job with marketing, and of course with paying their winners fair and square. I guess we can say that "paying out winners and good marketing" are playing a more important role than unique games.

I am not fun of Bitcasino, Livecasino, and Stake casino... they are big and I respect that, but I chose to be active in some other casinos.

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Quote from: goldenmonke on December 13, 2023, 11:30:50 PM

A lot of them seem to be hastily assembled clone sites with very little effort put in and gimmicky marketing. Do you guys have any thoughts on this... plague?

I don't understand why any user would care about this. Or how is it plague? Unless you are hunting for free bonuses for new players. Then it's handy to have several similar sites to collect your winnings from. If one trusts those sites that is. If someone can make money by running a copy site it doesn't hurt anyone i think. At least users. I understand how bitcoin maximalists are annoyed when there are several altcoins and potential money from bitcoin divides with several thousand altcoins. They see it all could be for btc marketcap, but issue of several casinos isn't (from gambler's viewpoint) anything but good news.

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 16, 2023, 08:53:19 AM

Quote from: slaman29 on December 16, 2023, 03:23:18 AM

Bitcasino (and now Livecasino) just set the standard so high I guess

Clever way of advertising Bitcasino and Livecasino and they do deserve high praise for various reasons like zero fee withdrawals etc, but they didn't set the highest standards in the crypto gambling market frankly speaking.

The site that accomplished that is Stake and no other crypto gambling site has been able to overtake them in the popularity department yet.

You completely took the words from me Grin

, actually, when it comes to online casinos that have set the standard so high, in terms of popularity and success, Stake takes that award, and I am not saying this because I am wearing their signature ad, we all on this forum know it well that, it is not mandatory to praise a casino you are promoting even when they clearly do not deserve it, I started playing on Stake way longer before I decide to apply to join their signature campaign on this forum, and lucky enough, I was accepted, and since then, I've continued to play there, a few times have I tried some other casinos and trust, havent had experiences as good as that I get on Stake..

But again, this is not to rule out the fact that every online casinos today, is actually beautiful in their own way, most especially, the OGs, OG online casino are ones that are very unique, and have maintained and still maintaining a high standard in various ways and means they are capable of, so, they do deserve to be praised in one area or another.
New casinos are mostly the copy-cats, buying script of Old casinos and building on that, hoping to possibly give players the same feeling they get while playing on that old casino they copied its script , lol 😂.

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Quote from: goldenmonke on December 13, 2023, 11:30:50 PM

A lot of them seem to be hastily assembled clone sites with very little effort put in and gimmicky marketing. Do you guys have any thoughts on this... plague?

I've seen people selling ready-made casino templates or stuff like that, where the code for casino is already set up.
To get into it, you just have to buy the code or template and start making money. Anyone with basic programming and management skills can start a crypto casino without much hassle.
It's pretty easy – you just need to use smart marketing to succeed. but also the owner need to have legal knowledge and licensing.
just there is difference of design.

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Quote from: slaman29 on December 16, 2023, 03:23:18 AM

Bitcasino (and now Livecasino) just set the standard so high I guess

Clever way of advertising Bitcasino and Livecasino and they do deserve high praise for various reasons like zero fee withdrawals etc, but they didn't set the highest standards in the crypto gambling market frankly speaking.

The site that accomplished that is Stake and no other crypto gambling site has been able to overtake them in the popularity department yet.

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Quote from: goldenmonke on December 13, 2023, 11:30:50 PM

A lot of them seem to be hastily assembled clone sites with very little effort put in and gimmicky marketing. Do you guys have any thoughts on this... plague?

The gambling industry is a very lucrative business, especially for online casinos it's quite easy to create a new site without much work and since you don't need a lot of staff or other operating expenses, I can understand that people would like to run their own casino, because they think they will make a lot of money quickly. In the end it's up to us gambler to decide where we want to spend our money. For me personally I would always prefer to gamble at a well established casino that has been around for a longer period of time than a completely new casino. I like to check reviews from other users as well and for any new casino I am a bit sceptical how legitimate the first reviews are.

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That's been the way I felt even 2/3 years ago. Which is why I really stuck to the originals for a long time. Look at Bitvest, so simple, so basic, yet so original until today I feel good seeing it. Most recently I like Blackjackfun because it was also original, different way and feel and P2P.

But the majority of others launching are all template users, broken links, and same old slots with no promos.

Bitcasino (and now Livecasino) just set the standard so high I guess

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Quote from: Gozie51 on December 14, 2023, 01:21:07 AM

When a particular sector looks lucrative, you see more people going into it and that means you have much of bad intention all for the money, low creativity, replication of existing ideas, ingenuity and exit scam will become the order of the day.

Bonuses and other promises are what some new players get attracted to but I would rather stay with the existing and reputable casinos.

- Because the bonuses that they implement for newbie players are really attracting gamblers to try them. I have seen that if you make your first deposit, you get 101% back up to 2 deposits. There is still a bonus that you can still get.

Of course, if you are a new gambler, you will be tempted to deposit a large amount because of the gimmick they have. But of course, what else do you expect from a casino bonus like that? The gambler or player often loses, but even though they enjoy it somehow or get lucky, they can also win.

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I guess it's the price we pay for convenience, thanks to those quick-fix white label solutions. But there are loads of online casinos out there, but not all of them are worth rolling the dice on. Casinos know that trust is earned especially in the wild world of online gambling. So let's just do our homework and stick to the sites that play fair. It's your money, after all.

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Quote from: Dunamisx on December 15, 2023, 04:17:59 PM

Quote from: goldenmonke on December 13, 2023, 11:30:50 PM

A lot of them seem to be hastily assembled clone sites with very little effort put in and gimmicky marketing. Do you guys have any thoughts on this... plague?

Maybe you should try to create your own site and see if you will be able to offer something completely different from what others have been offering or yours will rather be the worst of them all, we cannot blame some people for the kind of situations they find theirselves in, if some would have been left with alternatives, they would have taken that for introducing something new entirely from what others have been giving.

True, as if it seems that creating one would really be that so simple. There are really just that people who cant really be able to appreciate these things but rather they would really be making out those complaints as if they did really put up that effort on creating one. What if he would be the ones would be tending to create a new casino? For sure he would really be having those initial thoughts that it would be better that getting up some template from other popular sites and it do really make it cool at least. If it was really that easy to create something unique then we would really be definitely wrong on this one.

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