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newbie
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April 10, 2013, 06:54:14 PM
#31

*sigh* This thread seems to have died...indeed.
newbie
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April 08, 2013, 08:19:35 AM
#30
This thread seems to have died...quite quickly.

legendary
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newbie
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April 07, 2013, 11:04:48 AM
#27
My address: 1EMmWQxnSXwfrUGHA7YsCth7pHPbWngHKi
newbie
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April 07, 2013, 07:40:17 AM
#24
@JimmiesForBitcoins
I mean no disrespect. I don't have the heart in me to support systems in which some wind up with less then others.
Regardless of the logic behind them.

Perhaps I'm a dreamer, and a naive one at that but I can only follow my heart on this matter.

None taken. We're allowed to disagree. I like disagreements. They're fun.

I suppose so.  If everyone agreed, the world would be boring.   Grin
newbie
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April 06, 2013, 01:32:19 AM
#23
@JimmiesForBitcoins
I mean no disrespect. I don't have the heart in me to support systems in which some wind up with less then others.
Regardless of the logic behind them.

Perhaps I'm a dreamer, and a naive one at that but I can only follow my heart on this matter.

None taken. We're allowed to disagree. I like disagreements. They're fun.
sr. member
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April 06, 2013, 12:05:17 AM
#22
...And I've seen that site *Bitbillions.com*

There are people that aspire to create monopolies and fiendishly hoard bitcoins. *I don't even know if there can be billions of bitcoins.* The whole point was to create a currency that could be circulated in a balanced way without the constant printing of debt *ala Federal Reserve or any bank*

The entire concept of bitbillions just swelled anger in me because it shows that there are still delusional individuals out there without any conceptual understanding of how their lives relate to the rest of the world.

That anyone would want to hoard virtual bytes on a screen, when such things can never really be owned. *No material object can* Is repugnant to a logical mind.


You have seen bitbillions, with comments like that I don't think you have. I don't know where you get your ideas of people hoarding bitcoins from it, nor do I see how there is anything to do with peoples lives relating to the rest of the world. And the last part of that comment once again regarding hoarding...everyones bitcoins are virtual bytes on a screen. Bitcoins is a virtual currency, some people will turn it over quickly others will hold it as an investment.
sr. member
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April 05, 2013, 11:58:26 PM
#21
I am in serious need of an entrepreneur or web developer or android programmer.
newbie
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April 05, 2013, 11:46:39 PM
#20
I added a piece of art I did.

Hope you enjoy it.

@JimmiesForBitcoins
I mean no disrespect. I don't have the heart in me to support systems in which some wind up with less then others.
Regardless of the logic behind them.

Perhaps I'm a dreamer, and a naive one at that but I can only follow my heart on this matter.



legendary
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April 05, 2013, 01:37:21 PM
#19

I've been trying to find a job to do for bitcoins...

I can write, and I can draw *a little*

Any jobs I can do?

How much do u want to be paid for a short article about Bytecoin (a clone of Bitcoin). 500 words, 1 nice picture and post it in a few different places.
newbie
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April 05, 2013, 01:33:01 PM
#18
I think you're misunderstanding what Capitalism is. What you're describing is called Corporatism, and it is destructive. Capitalism is simply two people coming together and making a voluntary, peaceful exchange, which is creative by its very nature. When you introduce elements of coercion into the equation, the exchange is no longer Capitalism by definition.

Capitalism is about figuring out the most efficient way to get people to willingly part with their wealth. Think of it like a game. If you're losing, then clearly you need to try a new strategy. Complaining that the game is too hard and demanding a nerf on blood magic, a free mount, and an end-game armor set so that new players can feel better about themselves is definitely not the answer.

As for everything else you said... I would recommend investing some time into this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J6LNTcJaMo
newbie
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April 05, 2013, 10:32:40 AM
#17

I rather disagree.

Not with you're *apologies for the two typos, I usually don't do that* position, necessarily.  It makes sense on a certain angle.
However again, the problem lies with *as you indirectly mentioned* unrestrained capitalism.
*And everything capitalism does is essentially theft*

People rather tuck their heads into the sand about where things come from.  And it doesn't come from the U.S.
Bottled water is stolen from India, where the puppet government there butchers it's citizens so that corporations can rape the resources.  In Africa, cacao is grown by slave labor in order to provide candy to ignorant people in America and Europe.

...And people die fighting over land disputes and safety conditions in the broader world so that rare minerals can be foraged *regardless of environmental destruction* for the newest cell phone.

Is that sustainable? And the constant oil spills aren't helping matters either.

People falsely differentiate between government and corporations.  There is no such distinction anymore, especially after citizens united.  The government is full of former corporate executives and vice versa, many lobbyists are former politicians.
It's a revolving door so the two are mutually indistinguishable.

...And with the advent of the TransPacific Partnership, being debated in secret. *Why In Secret?* And flirting the notion that corporations will become immune to sovereign law, I'd say that corporations are slowly joining forces to become one world dictatorial power.

Corporations function almost identically to government as well, *they're both bureaucracies* and I despise any sort of bureaucracy*

 The only thing bureaucracy does is hinder the progress of anything and drag any forward motions backwards.

I personally like diversity and choice. And always wish everyone well. I'm not going to undermine anyone's chances of anything. But greed is a mental illness, and a form of a addiction.  Addicts will do what they can for a fix of their addiction regardless of what we do or say.

Few people understand that money and power are a form of addiction, so they enable the people with money to avoid accountability by defending them as having earned something.

...Concentrated health hurts an economy *and this is not an economy, I doubt there is an actual real economy on this planet*
As money is heavily centralized in one pair of hands, circulation halts and people increasingly have nothing to buy with.

So I've always said it years ago, that things would be better if there was a hoarding fine. *Maybe real jail time for repeat offenders* And if we made our money so ugly that no one would feel proud to own it, that would stimulate people to get rid of it as well.

Keep the currency circulating. 

People forget that we don't own currency, it belongs to whomever printed it.  Owning money would parse the idea that we are our own countries and that there are small businesses blooming in our nose.

All money is, is a contracted duty by citizens and their government.  That they would stimulate the economy.  In that regard, anyone who doesn't spend most of what they have should be considered heavily anti-their country.

...But that still doesn't alleviate the environmental burdens that industrial production costs.  I don't think there is a way for mass consumption to continue without throwing natural balance out of order.

And I think that our species' priority should be survival, not acquisition.
newbie
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April 05, 2013, 03:04:07 AM
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Money isn't everything, but people who say that are usually just bitter because they can't make any.

I'm really not bitter.  Perhaps I used to be, but I meditate frequently so I'm never in a terrible mood for long.
Your wrong though that it's the money that bothers me. *It's the inequality that bothers me*

A measurement is only as accurate as the ruler measuring, and I question the usefulness of many of that being measured.

Nature doesn't have a calculator or a set price for any of that which is measured by money, and most of what is measured is purposely measured higher then perhaps it would be if it were actually measured by it's usefulness.

Gold, in my opinion should be worthless. *It serves no scientific nor societal benefit...* Diamonds on the other hand could be used to build almost completely heat proof CPUs. *Why they aren't is a testament to the inefficiencies of the market*

...Recently heard of Graphene and that's a material that should be the basis of all technology.  *However it's barely being noticed*

The useful innovations are ignored and wasteful tired and inefficient practices prolonged.  *It's obvious that the prices of everything are manipulated incompetently*

However I don't know why people would love money.   It's simply paper, and the stores are full of green paper...

What you love isn't money, it's the symbolism of being able to acquire what you desire.  However if you were to acquire something for free, I doubt you'd complain.

The form rarely matters.  It's the function.  And if there was an efficient way of valuing sustainable resources and distributing goods freely and economically, in which everyone who needed something could acquire it, then even those who love capitalism would gladly partake in the receiving of said benefits from the above mentioned hypothetical.

People need to take a good hard look at themselves.  At the dawn of the twentieth century, people were pelted with rocks for wanting to establish public libraries.  Now even people who appose all things free, will go to a library and read or study.

If something is convenient, and it functions then people will partake in it gladly.

Thank you for the advice.  I'll look into those sites you listed.

Please, if you're going to offer writing gigs, use the correct "your". You just used "your" instead of "you're" twice. I suspect you'd get agitated customers otherwise.

You're misunderstanding the purpose of money or gold. As I said before, monetary value is purely subjective. There is nothing objective or absolute about it.

I like girlscout cookies. I value it more than my dollars. So I gave the nice little girl my dollars, and she gave me cookies. Then I inhaled them. (The cookies, not the girl.) The end.

So why did that transaction take place? Obviously the girl thought her cookies were worth less than my dollars. Yet, at the same time, I decided that my dollars were worth less than her cookies! So who is right? If we didn't value each other's things over our own, we would never have traded. Yet we initiated this trade while knowing that we both thought we were getting the better deal! Obviously we were both right, because we both got exactly what we wanted. Because monetary evaluation is a subjective matter.

Now, let's say for sake of the argument that next week the same little girl shows up at my house wanting to pawn off more of those nasty cookies on me. Same cookies as I ate last week, but this week I'm just sick of them. I want to barf just thinking about them. My whims have changed. So the girl knocks on my door and asks if I want to buy more, and I exclaim, "NO! ARE YOU TRYING TO MURDER ME YOU CRAZY COOKIE PERSON!?" She gets all confused and inquires, "Why don't you want them this week? You loved them last week and thought it was a great deal!"

So now tell me, assuming that the quality of the cookies remains static and that only my personal tastes have changed, was I wrong in my initial evaluation of those fudge dipped, shortbread shards of the Elysium fields? Of course not! I'm allowed to change my evaluation! Because the monetary value is subjective and therefore dependent upon the judgment of each individual person. There is no definite value to anything in a monetary sense. (There is, however, precedence of trade.)

All of that said, money is the most efficient means humans have access to of measuring scarcity and managing the allocation of resources. Prices are not arbitrary. They communicate something. Specifically, they perform the very task you're referring to.

If there's a short supply of water during a natural disaster, water prices go up to reflect the lack of water. This, in turn, mobilizes people who either possess or can obtain water resources to bring them to the impacted area. It also controls the consumption of those water resources so that they are allocated in accordance with need, rather than simply wants. I imagine it in my head almost as red blood cells rushing to clot a wound. Capitalism, functioning like a body's immune system to heal society... Yes, I am romantic about it.

As for your thing about innovations being ignored... Corporations (which are legal entities wholly dependent upon government and the current broken legal structures for their existence) act as sugar daddies to politicians who then cater to their whims. Their whims usually involve prohibitive and restrictive laws which shackle capitalism so that it can't function at optimum efficiency.

How? By keeping the little guys out. Every law that tries to regulate an industry is a law designed to keep someone else from operating and innovating, and ultimately out-competing the big guys. Big corporations are terrified of small business and startups, because they have the potential to crush them outright if they aren't kept in check. Or as I like the put it, big corporations like to eat little businesses while they're still young so that they can't grow up to be a threat.

Sort of like how the Lord Marshal tries to wipe out the Furyan race in a pre-emptive strike so that Riddick can't grow up to do the stabby thing that he does, which would result in death. As stabbing so often does.

As for graphene and free stuff:
A) Graphene is doing great. Development for next-gen phones is already under way and all the investing magazines are buzzing about it.
B) Free stuff is great! As long as it isn't coming from government, since that means it's stolen and stealing is bad. Sad
newbie
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April 05, 2013, 01:37:44 AM
#15
Your right, I should.

I have a deviantart page full of things.

newbie
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April 05, 2013, 01:36:40 AM
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Money isn't everything, but people who say that are usually just bitter because they can't make any.

I'm really not bitter.  Perhaps I used to be, but I meditate frequently so I'm never in a terrible mood for long.
Your wrong though that it's the money that bothers me. *It's the inequality that bothers me*

A measurement is only as accurate as the ruler measuring, and I question the usefulness of many of that being measured.

Nature doesn't have a calculator or a set price for any of that which is measured by money, and most of what is measured is purposely measured higher then perhaps it would be if it were actually measured by it's usefulness.

Gold, in my opinion should be worthless. *It serves no scientific nor societal benefit...* Diamonds on the other hand could be used to build almost completely heat proof CPUs. *Why they aren't is a testament to the inefficiencies of the market*

...Recently heard of Graphene and that's a material that should be the basis of all technology.  *However it's barely being noticed*

The useful innovations are ignored and wasteful tired and inefficient practices prolonged.  *It's obvious that the prices of everything are manipulated incompetently*

However I don't know why people would love money.   It's simply paper, and the stores are full of green paper...

What you love isn't money, it's the symbolism of being able to acquire what you desire.  However if you were to acquire something for free, I doubt you'd complain.

The form rarely matters.  It's the function.  And if there was an efficient way of valuing sustainable resources and distributing goods freely and economically, in which everyone who needed something could acquire it, then even those who love capitalism would gladly partake in the receiving of said benefits from the above mentioned hypothetical.

People need to take a good hard look at themselves.  At the dawn of the twentieth century, people were pelted with rocks for wanting to establish public libraries.  Now even people who appose all things free, will go to a library and read or study.

If something is convenient, and it functions then people will partake in it gladly.

Thank you for the advice.  I'll look into those sites you listed.

newbie
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April 05, 2013, 01:30:32 AM
#13
BTW you should post your writing and drawings Grin
That would also help a lot. I concur.
legendary
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April 05, 2013, 01:25:54 AM
#12
BTW you should post your writing and drawings Grin
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